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Title: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 14, 2008, 06:30:25 PM
Let's build my next rig together.  I'm curious what everyone on the forum considers the "ultimate rig" highway, rock crawlin', trail riding, expedition, camping out of, jumping in the sand dunes, 4 seat/2 seat, what suspension, what trans. man/auto, CJ/YJ/TJ/LJ/scambler???? basically a self-sufficient rig on-board air/welder room for a spare tire/parts, wheel hardcore and cruise down the highway at 80mph. i've got a small parts list started, from that let's build the ultimate rig!!!!!!

Here's the list so far:
FOOL inj. chevy 350
Atlas 4.3 t-case
Currie Rock Jock 60 rear axle, 40 spline alloy shafts, detroit locker, disc brakes
Currie Rock Jock 60 front axle, wilwood 4 piston caliper disc brakes 35 spline alloy inner and outer shafts, yukon super u-joints, detroit locker
NP 435 4sp. man. trans
turbo 400 3sp. auto trans
700R4 4sp. auto trans
37,39, or 42" tires????
Walker Evans polished beadlock wheels
Warn 9.5ti winch with syn. winchline
Powertank


so seats, cage, guages, tub, suspension, wheel base, 2 or 4 seat, tranny, tires, there is alot of stuff left.  I think everyone could come up with something pretty cool and then stop by the shop and witness the progress when the build begins, or follow a build thread on the forum.


As of 7-11-09 this is what its starting to look like.
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/greenalumabeast.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on April 15, 2008, 06:14:08 AM
Spider trax 9" axles and their new 1550 outers and tru-Hi-9's (you need practice before building mine)

I would love to see a 4 seater complete tube frame buggy with standard TJ/LJ armor wrapped around it to make it look "normal" on the street and allow a place for a top to mount.

I would stick with an auto and maybe one of the exorbitant overdrive boxes.(hell, it is not my money)

Coilovers and 4 links...

I have a dreamed of making an "active/passive" suspension using Double acting pneumatic cylinders mounted with the coilovers that can either extend or collapse each corner. It would be a total passive system that that just assists. It could also be turned completely off by venting all the lines.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 15, 2008, 06:19:01 AM
now were talking.... barry i love the spider 9's however i've already spent about 10k on the rockjocks.  I'm thinking scrambler/LJ 4 seat with a full soft top for the muddy days. and an auto fo sho' now my axles can handle 42's should we go that big???

max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on April 15, 2008, 12:11:38 PM
38 or 40's.  ;)

Auto's are for women,,,,drive a 5speed NV4500 with that Atlas.  ;D   8)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on April 15, 2008, 03:00:15 PM
40" seems plenty to me. Why max out(pun?) anything in the strength department. Unless you were going to run a really long wheel base, I would not go over the 40 mark. The weight and rev/mile detriments of tires are near exponential to the diameter. ::) ??? ;D

I think 4 matching suspension seats and harnesses looks and will work awesome.

Ever been in a suspension seat and feel like your lower back is going to explode when you still bottom out? I have had the pleasure in a 700hp sand rail in the glamis sand dunes...air time may look fun from outside... but inside  :o :o

I don't like the the scrambler with it's rear overhang. I think it is awesome for mild...not for wild. I think the LJ length is nice, but stretch the WB to the same departure as a TJ.(5 inches?) that would be near/just under a nice 110 WB.




Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 15, 2008, 07:13:47 PM
barry i agree with 40's i've got enough engine and axles for that size and i think it will still be safe on the street.  however i thought a scrambler with a 110-112" wheel base (to eliminate the rear overhang)would be ideal since the scrambler has more storage room than a LJ.  we have to keep in mind this vehicle will be used for trail repairs/rescue at the jeep jamboree, looking good on the street, and throwing it down with some hardcore beer drinking wheelers on this forum. so i think 40's minimum on tire, 110" min. on W.B., now let's talk a little bit about suspension..... air shocks or coilovers???? ohh yeah seats... hmmm thats hard we're a dealer for Beard, PRP, Mastercraft, Corbeau.... what everyone's take on seats??????  I'm really curious what and why. we've sold alot of different seats to custmers i'd love their input.





Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on April 15, 2008, 10:17:28 PM
coils
but airshocks are sweet to


wouldnt be hard to build it off that scrambler unless the frame is pretty rusty or its in mint cond.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 16, 2008, 05:08:31 AM
thats what i was thinking Samb... i've got a line on a scrambler tub and i already have a YJ frame that i was thinking about using. plus all of my wiring, pedals, steering col. and box, etc. would work. i thought coilovers would be more reliable on the street more $$$$ than air shocks, and air shocks are more simple..... hmm. thats a hard toss up.

max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on April 16, 2008, 05:10:31 AM
scrambler works for me if you stretch the WB in the rear.

coils, air shocks?
Coilovers are costly. Tuning them right would be more difficult when you could vary the weight in the rear drastically(people, parts and fizzy hop based beverages) 
But still much better than standard coils.

Air shocks are well proven off road, on road--? sustained 80mph ???  Keeping nitrogen onboard would be almost necessary. Scrambler? Iron block v8? 4 adults? parts? I think you  will overload the airshocks. Add the fade of on road driving and....I say..

coilovers front and rear.





Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 16, 2008, 05:15:55 AM
definatly coilovers if we're suggesting that on the street will be more than 50% of the time.... which it just might be, most trail/daily drivers are. coilovers are what i've been leaning toward but price and maintaining them are more involved than air shocks.... barry i'm kinda lazy. hahahhahaha. just kidding! your bring up great points to think about. wish more people on here would chime in!!!!

max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: DIGGER on April 16, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
I like all of your suggestions, but what about the exterior features. Like a chrome light bar with KC Daylighters! What do you think about that? 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 16, 2008, 07:41:25 PM
hmmmmmmmm............................................. well....................... hmm ........................... what if i roll????? i actually have some KC H.I.D. driving lights 8" dia. that cost about 1000.00 around here somewhere. i've been think about using them. what do you think??? no light bar for me cause i know this rig is gonna "flop", "Barrel roll" you know it is bound to happen!!!

max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: DIGGER on April 16, 2008, 10:12:57 PM
Man I never thought about that, I would never try to drive on anything if I thought that I was going to roll! Well what about a bunch of cool chrome accessories, like windshield whippers, grill covers, mirrors, etc. Thats how I think ultimate jeeps should have.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on April 17, 2008, 06:11:34 AM
... i know this rig is gonna "flop", "Barrel roll" you know it is bound to happen!!!

max


I think too far and becasue of by experience in engineering...

attach a sacrificial hoop to the top of the jeep(side to side) halfway but slightly forward of the centerline of the wheelbase.  Use simple poly joints so it can swing freely up. Should go up maybe 24". Attach a pneumatic cylinder(I like these ;D), solenoid and a tilt/roll/mercury switch to it. when you are going over, the bar will go up giving some resistance and keep you on the side instead of on the top. I mention sacrificial becasue you want it to bend and absorb any shock. Maybe some standard 1" tubing. Think of it as disposable.
2 bars/hoop would be very easy. Attach them at the top and they will still require only 1 cylinder to lift.

sorry, I think about this complicated crap.
I used to build and design these types of automated machines..My mind never stops designing.

But who wants to build for the anticipation of a rollover  ;D

(http://www.norwalt.com/IMAGES/rotary.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 17, 2008, 06:36:08 AM
barry you are cracking me up... this thread is a good one.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on April 17, 2008, 09:00:12 AM
IF you cut that Scrambler I'll disown you !   >:(  :o  ;D 

  PLUS the Scrambler Gods will impart bad mojo on all your trailrides.  :-*  ;D 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 17, 2008, 08:37:35 PM
IF you cut that Scrambler I'll disown you !   >:(  :o  ;D 

  PLUS the Scrambler Gods will impart bad mojo on all your trailrides.  :-*  ;D 

I'd NEVER cut or bob the overhang!!!! come awn baby!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 17, 2008, 09:13:31 PM
Man I never thought about that, I would never try to drive on anything if I thought that I was going to roll! Well what about a bunch of cool chrome accessories, like windshield whippers, grill covers, mirrors, etc. Thats how I think ultimate jeeps should have.


HAHAHAHAHAHA YOU AGAIN B.A.DOUBLE "D" TUFF HAHAHAHAHA PINKY I'M GONNA GET YOU WHEN YOU GET BACK!!!!!!!  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on April 18, 2008, 06:39:35 AM
Start with a good platform that is already lifted...
I think these are 34's... I personally know street tires work ok.


















(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/Impholla/DubShow07/DubShow07123.jpg)



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 18, 2008, 06:44:46 AM
hahahaha barry your not right!!!!!! there is alot of those around the new shop for some reason..... must be the hood we're in????


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on April 18, 2008, 06:46:38 AM
sorry.. I forgot... needs more FLEX...




















(http://www.pompmusic.com/national/FUNKMASTER_01.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 21, 2008, 07:20:04 PM
okay so here's what i'm thinking... custom frame, scrambler tub, rear body protection with no rear wheel cut-outs then wheel base is up to me like by moving the rear axle back to get rid of the "overhang"(110-112" barry). keep the tub factory (no bobbing carter will like that!) except for where the shocks will come through in the rear to attach to the cage and the wheel wheel will relocate for the wheelbase strech. then a bestop supertop will fit the tub for the rainy season, and so will the steering column, wiring, etc. because the jeep will stay of the CJ era (kinda retro-custom)grill skin or steel, and steel/fiberglass/lexan hood are up in the air, and so are boat sides for the rockers..... whats everyone's take on these issues?????? I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!

-MAX THE GUY WITH THE HAIR


this is what the manglesnake used to look like....

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/P1010011.jpg)

and then this happened...

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/P1010052.jpg)

now it looks kinda like this...

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/DSC_0369.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on April 22, 2008, 08:42:58 PM
what about this
(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8183/greenjeep12wd8.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 23, 2008, 05:22:55 AM
now we're talking. scrambler tub with a TJ front end. the 49" irocks are way too big for street. but it looks like 60's are under it and the wheelbase is long and it looks like a un-bobbed tub. plus the boat sides look clean on this one. i'm still up in the air on boatsides...... hmm.... Jeremy what is your take on things you've been hearing about this build for ohhh... bout 1.5yrs. now.

max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on April 23, 2008, 09:24:16 AM
Max - Robbie Gordon's Dakar Hummer in this issue of Dirt Sports sure handle your needs


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on April 23, 2008, 01:40:50 PM
what about this
([url]http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8183/greenjeep12wd8.jpg[/url])


 Max this is it !!!  What could be better ?  A TJ frt and a Scrambler rear ?  All the room,,,all the bling,,,all the length. Screw the 42's,,,use 38's or 40's and roll with it. Just don't paint it PUKE Green or Black ! I think RED or BROWN would be perfect  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: DIGGER on April 23, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
I think you need to build a motorized cooler so I can have relaiable transportation!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on April 23, 2008, 06:40:11 PM
I think you need to build a motorized cooler so I can have relaiable transportation!

 I know where there is one for sale. Just hop on the motorized barstool and the cooler has a hitch so you can drag it with you. It's called a "Bar Fly".  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 23, 2008, 06:42:27 PM
HAHAHA  digger we're building one of those this summer.

macks


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on April 23, 2008, 06:48:30 PM
what about this
([url]http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8183/greenjeep12wd8.jpg[/url])


 Max this is it !!!  What could be better ?  A TJ frt and a Scrambler rear ?  All the room,,,all the bling,,,all the length. Screw the 42's,,,use 38's or 40's and roll with it. Just don't paint it PUKE Green or Black ! I think RED or BROWN would be perfect  ;D


I agree. I like it.
TJ front, scrambler rear. I would go for a flat bottom and clearance the body for the drivetrain. 1/2" HDPE, UHMW-PE  skids.
Although ther green ones slight boatside look is pretty cool.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on April 24, 2008, 03:59:50 AM
Max, I like the scrambler tub w/the tj front end.  Cut the hood at an angle for visibility and clearance.  110' wheelbase is a little long but will climb like the dickens, so i see where you are going with it.  just make sure to run hydraulic assist ( ;D) with those 40s.  Four links front and rear with coilovers.  I agree with whoever said ou wwould over load air shocks.  I would also do air bumps, just in case you see a little air time  ;D.  Arb cooler for those hot hot nights.  Did i say rear steer?  700r4.  I know its a lot of work, but how bout channeling the tub?  you could keep your door openings but cut 3-4 inches out of the height of the tub, and still run a factory top...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 24, 2008, 05:17:00 AM
NOW WE'RE TALKIN' scrambler tub... TJ front end lowered grill mount/shortened grill for better visibility, 3J7 you and I are seeing eye to eye. coilovers, air bumps, 40's, i agree hydro assist is a must. however expand a little on how you would channel the tub???? are we talking in the rocker panel area so that custom doors are not needed? if so then what about doing boat sides like in the pic of the green one?

the arb cooler and other interior goodies we'll get into later. let's get the hard parts and big items lined out first. interior goodies will be fun!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on April 24, 2008, 06:05:10 AM
if you are going to channel the tub, channeling doors would be real easy.





Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 24, 2008, 06:10:52 AM
soft doors only... and i'm not sewing s**t!!!! ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on April 24, 2008, 12:45:19 PM
yeah i would channel around the door openings so you can use factory style doors.  This way the area under the door openings would only be about 2 inches tall (easy to make rocker guards)  if you took 4 inches out of the tub.  The only problem i have found with this idea is the brake master cylinder is already close to the hood on a heep, and if you lower the mount you will get into the engine's space.  I recently saw a hot rod build where they mounted the master cylinder in the passenger compartment under the dash, transverse to the way it is normaly mounted utilizing a lever setup.  It was wicked but probably really complicated...
I also like the idea of narrowing a tub, but that destroys and chance of being able to use factory parts...  In 4wd and sport utility magazine there is a chick that runs a scrambler with a stock length but custom narrowed aluminum tub on 42s.  This thing is badass.
It also has to have a flat bottom (the jeep i mean).


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on April 25, 2008, 08:35:43 AM
Boat sides would be alot better. Take a look at ANY Scrambler that has been offroaded. It has stress waves in the body just below the door. Channeling that area would weaken it. I know it can be reinforced, BUT for where we live and where we wheel 90% of the time, Boat sides would work better. Narrowing the body would not even be an option. Besides, you want to screw around for 2 or 3 yrs building/fabricating this thing or do you want to go wheelin in it ?  ::)  ;D 

 DAMN I love that big green monster. Max I would ALMOST consider the Scrambourbon for a project like that.  :o  ;D  I would have to be able to drive it on the street though.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on April 25, 2008, 12:37:20 PM
I agree channeling would be alot of work, but it can be made as strong or stronger than stock if you do it right.  i suggested it for the low center of gravity.  I wish i could lower mine 4" and still have the same belly height!  plus, with boat sides you are cutting (weakening) the same area of the tub.  Although you would be less likely to hit it.  I guess it all comes down to personal preference.  And both are going to involve a goodly amount of fab time...  And i agree with you about narrowing the body ( but it is very cool).  Also didn't think about the stress on the tub because of the length, good call on that one.
If you want easy, just run the tub stock and slap some rocker guards on it and call it good. ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on April 25, 2008, 03:25:04 PM
I agree channeling would be alot of work, but it can be made as strong or stronger than stock if you do it right.  i suggested it for the low center of gravity.  I wish i could lower mine 4" and still have the same belly height!  plus, with boat sides you are cutting (weakening) the same area of the tub.  Although you would be less likely to hit it.  I guess it all comes down to personal preference.  And both are going to involve a goodly amount of fab time...  And i agree with you about narrowing the body ( but it is very cool).  Also didn't think about the stress on the tub because of the length, good call on that one.
If you want easy, just run the tub stock and slap some rocker guards on it and call it good. ;D

i wouldnt narrow the body, he was wanting to run it on the street and that would make him have to
A: get a custom top
B: run no top
C: umm

but on the boatsides/channeling i would go boatsides so if you get in some water youll kinda float  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 25, 2008, 03:44:48 PM
FLOAT ;D hahahaa so are we saying for street purposes.... no narrow/channel, boat sides or for time sake rocker guards.... hmmm we might have to address this a little more when the tub work starts. i'm loving all this input it's gonna be cool when this project starts.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on April 28, 2008, 09:54:17 AM
A built scramber would be sick, however a minimum wheelbase of 112 would be loooooonnnnnnggggg!  Max I don't want to have to spot you going through obstacles in reverse (for all who went to williamsburg) ;D  I would definitely go with coil-overs for daily highway driving.  I think that boat sides if done right look really good!  Keep it low and wide - - and you already know I like the coilover hoops through the hood!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on April 28, 2008, 10:07:35 AM
A built scramber would be sick, however a minimum wheelbase of 112 would be loooooonnnnnnggggg!  Max I don't want to have to spot you going through obstacles in reverse (for all who went to williamsburg) ;D  I would definitely go with coil-overs for daily highway driving.  I think that boat sides if done right look really good!  Keep it low and wide - - and you already know I like the coilover hoops through the hood!

It was the combination of width of those monster tires,full width axles and the height of that 8 that were making things difficult  ;D

I think a LCG cj8 that has been channeled in the body 2 inches with clearanced fenders would be great. Keep the wheelbase long with a nice solid boatside center that will not get hurt when you slide it over things.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on April 28, 2008, 10:09:42 AM
It's those 39.5x16.5x15 balloon tires/rims that made that thing hard to get thru. Most times it will go thru like a greased pig.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on April 28, 2008, 02:43:15 PM
There you go!!!  You need to hook up the windsheild washer to some lines in your rear wheelwells and run bleach in it like the old drag racers used to do!! 
Instant smokey burnouts!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on April 28, 2008, 08:09:46 PM
Check out the New JP Magazine.
 there is a scrambler in there w/40's and a v8/automatic/ATLASII
sounds somewhat familiar.
J


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on April 29, 2008, 07:56:22 AM
Yeah im not knocking the guys rig - - I thought it was pretty cool - - but when building one from scratch - - I would keep it lower and not quite as wide!  Most of the trails here in KY/TN are pretty tight!  Out in Moab he wouldn't have a thing to worry about.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 29, 2008, 10:58:07 PM
Check out the New JP Magazine.
 there is a scrambler in there w/40's and a v8/automatic/ATLASII
sounds somewhat familiar.
J

hmm. that is kinda like what i had in mind but without leafs


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 30, 2008, 06:41:42 PM
i'm heading off to the LBL Jeep Jamboree to trail guide. we'll resume this on monday. have a great derby weekend.

max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 01, 2008, 04:49:52 PM
Check out the New JP Magazine.
 there is a scrambler in there w/40's and a v8/automatic/ATLASII
sounds somewhat familiar.
J

hmm. that is kinda like what i had in mind but without leafs


 Coilovers.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepRocks86 on May 05, 2008, 06:10:42 PM
I like coil overs. 

I haven't read everything but here's what I would think would be great for an amazing trail rig that is still sort of steetable...

LJ
Coilovers
RJ 60s front and rear with ARB's
42s with internal beadlocks (to make it "street legal") or just a nice set of either spyder locks or trail ready bead locks.
Where a 350 would be nice, I think I would keep the 6 but stroke it out to about a 4.7
auto or manual tranny
Atlas 4spd with 10 low
stretched a little with a genright tank to fit everything and not a fuel cell so that the storage and rear seat would remain

What I would like to do to my TJ eventually
60s preferably HP or RJ or similar depending on $$  Gears depend on everything either a Detroit in the rear with an ARB up front or arb's front and rear
stretched using coils and long travel shock towers and 4.5" coils
40s tread not chosen yet haha
aluminum bead locks
4spd atlas (Because... why not)
stroker and auto tranny
full custom cage
Similar hood to the high line fender kit with tube fenders instead. 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 05, 2008, 07:55:17 PM
jeep rocks read this thread!!!!! your input will be considered on building my next rig and alot of things you said is already being used. thanks for the input your opinion counts.


thanks, max
 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 06, 2008, 05:08:43 AM
okay just finished reading this thread again! here's is the update so far....

everyone decided Scrambler tub TJ grill. boat sides/rocker guards undecided.

110"-112" wheelbase -bairy
full length scrambler tub -smokey jeep
Angled hood for visibility and hydro assist -3j7
low and wide -blackjeep
4 link ft. and rear, coilovers and air bump stops -3j7, smokey jeep, bairy, blackjeep

now can we figure out what tranny?

700R4, Turbo 400, NP435 and why???

oh and bye the way i got a line on a scrambler tub.



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bizeeb65 on May 06, 2008, 07:31:53 AM
Transmission - 700R4. 

Why?   Because you have one sitting on the floor of the shop.   ;D  Also because it has the lowest first gear offered in an automatic (GM), and also has overdrive.  I have grown to like my automatic on the trail.  It's easier on drivelineparts (more forgiving), and since this will be a driver/trailrig it will make for better commuting on and off the trail. 

Just my $.02


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on May 06, 2008, 08:08:40 AM
x2 on the 700r4 because you have 2 of them and overdrive for a daily driver!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 06, 2008, 10:24:23 AM
X3 on the 700R4 ,,,,,OR,,,,, a NV4500.

The R4 reasons have already been given. IF you go Auto,,,I like it best.

 The 4500 has a 6.32 first & reverse plus they are syncro'd. You know me,,,I'm a shifter kid at heart and will be till I die.  ;D  PLUS if you loose power you still have brakes in the form of the tranny. PLUS if you loose batteries for some reason,,,you can bump start it. The 4500 is my first choice,,,,,period.  ;)

 I like the 6cyl stroker motor suggestion bigtime BUTTTTT I like a 350 tuned port better. Ain't NO substitution for cubic inches baby !!!  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on May 06, 2008, 12:50:59 PM
Definitely auto...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on May 06, 2008, 08:28:38 PM
Gotta put my vote in on the 350!  However it probably would be cheaper/easier to mildly build the 4.0.  But it just wouldn't sound as cool - - its all about the wwhhhooopppp!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 06, 2008, 08:30:48 PM
Gotta put my vote in on the 350!  However it probably would be cheaper/easier to mildly build the 4.0.

  Not true. You can buy a Tuned Port 350 ZZ4 with computer for under $2K.  ;)

 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 07, 2008, 08:13:46 AM
been on the phone getting prices and talking to jeremy all morning about the tranny thing. here's the DL....

the 700R4 is about 650.00 more with lock-up, rev. man. valve body and all the HD goodies and overall crawl ratio is about 120:1

the turbo 400 is ALOT stronger and less expensive to build and i've already got the art carr shifter and the atlas set up for it. final crawl ratio 97:1

I'm REAL undecided.... the 400 is stronger and less expensive to build and the 700R4 has the crawl ratio, compression braking, and overdrive.

i got a bunch of wheels turning in my head.............


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 07, 2008, 09:15:35 AM
What about the crawl ratio of the NV4500 ?  ;D

 Ralphs Turbo 400 does great. Being that you are going to run big tires and not much road time, I would opt for the strength & price factor. The 400 has SOME braking capabilities. I am trying to remember if he has a 3.8 or 4.0 Atlas ? I think it is the 3.8. It shifts into 2nd @ .5 mph and into 3rd @ 2.5 mph.

 Given the factors that this JeeP will not see much road time AND it WILL see hard rock usage I would opt for the heavier, less expensive 400. Ralphs has never failed to perform yet and I have alot of seat time in that JeeP.

 The ONLY reason I would go with the 700R4 is if you plan on doing alot of road driving, otherwise the overdrive is a non-issue.

 Isn't your Atlas a 5-1 ? 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 07, 2008, 07:12:46 PM
no its 4.3:1 and the 400 is alot cheaper and either way i'm doing a man. valve body. i'm undecided.......................


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Post by: 3j7 on May 07, 2008, 07:36:10 PM
Watch out for that manual valve body, it gets old real fast.  But I'm just lazy.  Also, noone has mentioned the obvious.
Powerglide? ;D
On that crawl ratio are you doubling it cuz of the converter? 
True about beating on that turbo 400.  If you get it built right you can't kill them friggin' things!!  Also it takes about 45 horsepower to run a 400, as opposed to a th350 (20) or a manual (5).  just an excuse for  nitrous!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 08, 2008, 08:29:44 AM
yeah i doubled it and man valve body for "compression braking" on the 400. i'm lazy too. haha


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 09, 2008, 04:29:09 AM
smokey jeep was at the shop yesterday talkin all this NV4500 biz and almost had me convinced!!!! hahahaha no seriously after talking to carter (smokey jeep) i'm leanin more toward the turbo 400. here's why: remember about 6-7 years ago when 33" tires were the "big" tires on a jeep and 35" whoa you were really hardcore. then 3-4 years ago 37's where the common "hardcore" tire..... and now its the 39.5 or 40 I keep thinkin 42's just to stay ahead of the game hahahaha no really i only want to build this once and i don't want to break on the trails. also this jeep isn't gonna see as much highway as anyone would think...(remember 42's)so i don't think OD is a big concern. being that the turbo 400 is strong as hell and i already have a atlas set-up for it and the art carr shifter that is where my mind is at. this tranny thing is one of my biggest hang-ups on this build.

max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bizeeb65 on May 09, 2008, 04:31:49 AM
Quote
this tranny thing is one of my biggest hang-ups on this build.

Doesn't sound like it's a hangup anymore...   ;D   Run the TH400 and never look back. 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 09, 2008, 06:37:30 AM
Quote
this tranny thing is one of my biggest hang-ups on this build.

Doesn't sound like it's a hangup anymore...   ;D   Run the TH400 and never look back. 

alex whats funny is Advance Adapters will swap the input out on the t-case since it's never been run then i'm only out a art carr shifter so the big diff. is strength and cost OD or not..... i'm gonna decide on it by the end of this weekend. but leaning real heavy toward TH400.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: CoryL on May 09, 2008, 06:40:23 AM
350, 700R4, Atlas 2
Your 60s
Scrambler tub
TJ one-piece hood and TJ grille, lowered for more visibility with some kind of tubing run under the "fenders" of the hood for some protection.

The only thing no one has discussed yet is the problem with your steering as it is now on the CJ-7.  Your drag link and tie-rod are rubbing on compression, even with the steering box moved forward 1.5" and you cannot keep the tie-rod straight because of the size of the diff.  To get around this you are either going to have to move the box you have further up the frame (by making new mounts, but exposing more of the box), go full hydro (BTF style, boy), or running the Astro van box and fabbing new mounts on the frame.  Personally, I think the Astro van route is the way to go as it will allow you to push the front axle a little bit further forward.

Coilovers are def. the way to go.  2" x 14" coilovers with res. will be more than adaquate and the addition of air bumps will complete the suspension.  I would also try to find a way to integrate a small rear cinch-down winch under the tub.  I have an idea for how to use the existing winch up front and a roller to cinch the front of  the Jeep.

As for tires, 40" Maxxis Creepy Crawlers or Trepadors would be sweet.  I'd pass on the MTRs for an MT and go for the KM2s instead.  However, depending on your wheelbase (110-113), 42s might be appealing.  I just don't like any of the brands that have a 42" tire.  TSL SXs are beefy, but incredibly heavy.  With 40s I would be inclined to keep the wheelbase a little shorter, especially for the trails around here.  108-110" or so.

I'd really think hard about how much this will be driven on the street vs. offroad.  If you see it as a 90% offroad and 10% street rig, a 3spd transmission will be fine, even if you plan on 42s and gear it accordingly.  However, if you foresee this as being closer to a 50/50 split, you might want to keep the OD transmission in mind.  Also, being that I know you always want to build things that COULD drive to and from the trail, the OD might be something you want.  I mean, how bad would it suck if you had to drive the thing home from Harlan on the highway with a 1:1 final gear?

Just to throw a cog in the gears, what about the 4L60E?  Sure, it is more expensive, but it is stronger than the 700R4, but has the same gear ratios. I don't know how much truth there is to it, but I have read that the TH400 is one of the worst transmissions for robbing HP (up to 20% at the rear wheels).  I would still stick with the 700R4 because the 350 you have isn't putting out that much HP and even with 42s I really doubt you will have any problems.

Then again, I built my Jeep wrong from the start, so what the hell do I know?

Cory



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bizeeb65 on May 09, 2008, 06:44:27 AM
Quote from: Bad Hair Day
alex whats funny is Advance Adapters will swap the input out on the t-case since it's never been run then i'm only out a art carr shifter so the big diff. is strength and cost OD or not..... i'm gonna decide on it by the end of this weekend. but leaning real heavy toward TH400.

I think the TH400 will be the powerhouse you are looking for, and OD wont be that big of an issue...   and of course, you could always run a doubler to get a good highway gear ratio while being able to GET LOW on the trail. 

Oh, and the shifter plates on the Art Carr shifter are swappable, so you could just get the plate for a 700R4 to put into your shifter, or vice versa.  I actally have a reverse manual shifter plate for a TH350/400... 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 09, 2008, 07:20:19 AM
350, 700R4, Atlas 2
Your 60s
Scrambler tub
TJ one-piece hood and TJ grille, lowered for more visibility with some kind of tubing run under the "fenders" of the hood for some protection.

The only thing no one has discussed yet is the problem with your steering as it is now on the CJ-7.  Your drag link and tie-rod are rubbing on compression, even with the steering box moved forward 1.5" and you cannot keep the tie-rod straight because of the size of the diff.  To get around this you are either going to have to move the box you have further up the frame (by making new mounts, but exposing more of the box), go full hydro (BTF style, boy), or running the Astro van box and fabbing new mounts on the frame.  Personally, I think the Astro van route is the way to go as it will allow you to push the front axle a little bit further forward.

Coilovers are def. the way to go.  2" x 14" coilovers with res. will be more than adaquate and the addition of air bumps will complete the suspension.  I would also try to find a way to integrate a small rear cinch-down winch under the tub.  I have an idea for how to use the existing winch up front and a roller to cinch the front of  the Jeep.

As for tires, 40" Maxxis Creepy Crawlers or Trepadors would be sweet.  I'd pass on the MTRs for an MT and go for the KM2s instead.  However, depending on your wheelbase (110-113), 42s might be appealing.  I just don't like any of the brands that have a 42" tire.  TSL SXs are beefy, but incredibly heavy.  With 40s I would be inclined to keep the wheelbase a little shorter, especially for the trails around here.  108-110" or so.

I'd really think hard about how much this will be driven on the street vs. offroad.  If you see it as a 90% offroad and 10% street rig, a 3spd transmission will be fine, even if you plan on 42s and gear it accordingly.  However, if you foresee this as being closer to a 50/50 split, you might want to keep the OD transmission in mind.  Also, being that I know you always want to build things that COULD drive to and from the trail, the OD might be something you want.  I mean, how bad would it suck if you had to drive the thing home from Harlan on the highway with a 1:1 final gear?

Just to throw a cog in the gears, what about the 4L60E?  Sure, it is more expensive, but it is stronger than the 700R4, but has the same gear ratios. I don't know how much truth there is to it, but I have read that the TH400 is one of the worst transmissions for robbing HP (up to 20% at the rear wheels).  I would still stick with the 700R4 because the 350 you have isn't putting out that much HP and even with 42s I really doubt you will have any problems.

Then again, I built my Jeep wrong from the start, so what the hell do I know?

Cory



you wait till we're 5 pages in on this thread then right a book???? hahaha glad you chimed in cory i'm interested in the 4L60E i've kicked that around alot.  i was wondering if anyone would throw that in the mix. haha now the percentage thing is the hang-up on tranny choice. I would say 60 street 40 trail. like i said the low range of the 700 is what i'm shooting for and OD is nice but i'm a little more concerned with longevity and strength... maybe the 4L60E is the way to go????? oh and i like the tire ideas we'll get into that later in this thread. 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 09, 2008, 07:26:20 AM


Oh, and the shifter plates on the Art Carr shifter are swappable, so you could just get the plate for a 700R4 to put into your shifter, or vice versa.  I actally have a reverse manual shi

yeah i knew they would interchange thanks alex we got a couple art carr shifters up here we can play with (got one on the 700R4 too) ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 09, 2008, 10:46:38 AM
Hey Cory, I'll stop by and pick up that POS you built "wrong" from the start.  :o  ;D

I'll trade you some Ribs for it. They will keep you warmer than that ole nasty black JeeP.  ;D

 Max,,,, NV4500 !!!  Low gears,,,,OD,,,,Syncro 1st and reverse, it has it all !!!  NO cooler lines/mounts to fab, NO cooler to get stopped up with mud(since we don't live in frickin Moab slickrock territory), No power robbing, NO extra heat, It doesn't care how much horsepower or NITROUS you put in frt of it, the list is endless !!!  ;) 

 I do like the 4L60E but didn't know much about it. I have had some Street Rodder buddies use them. They are very happy with them, BUTTTTT they don't drive thru the woods or rocks.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 11, 2008, 05:16:22 PM
Hey Cory, I'll stop by and pick up that POS you built "wrong" from the start.  :o  ;D

I'll trade you some Ribs for it. They will keep you warmer than that ole nasty black JeeP.  ;D

 Max,,,, NV4500 !!!  Low gears,,,,OD,,,,Syncro 1st and reverse, it has it all !!!  NO cooler lines/mounts to fab, NO cooler to get stopped up with mud(since we don't live in frickin Moab slickrock territory), No power robbing, NO extra heat, It doesn't care how much horsepower or NITROUS you put in frt of it, the list is endless !!!  ;) 

 I do like the 4L60E but didn't know much about it. I have had some Street Rodder buddies use them. They are very happy with them, BUTTTTT they don't drive thru the woods or rocks.  ;)

okay smokey jeep YOU KNOW I LOVE THE NV4500!!!!  AND.... IF I WERE DOING A MAN. TRANNY THAT WOULD BE IT!  I've got a couple of phone calls to make tomorrow and then i'll hopefully have a decision.

-B.H.D.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 14, 2008, 09:50:09 AM

okay smokey jeep YOU KNOW I LOVE THE NV4500!!!!  AND.... IF I WERE DOING A MAN. TRANNY THAT WOULD BE IT!  I've got a couple of phone calls to make tomorrow and then i'll hopefully have a decision.

-B.H.D.

 Maxwell just call Just-ole'. He will ship you one super quick. With the crawl ratio you have and a hand throttle, it's just as easy to drive as an Auto.  ;D  :-* 

 Which Auto ? You decide yet ? 

 Let's talk "Chassis",,,,,,,, All tube ? Grafted tube ? All Scrambler ? 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 14, 2008, 05:03:23 PM
okay here is the update on the tranny. now i'm thinking 4L80E it is basically a TH400 with OD and a lower 1st. gear (jeremy through this cog in) been researching auto tranny's alot and the 4L60E is not any stronger than a 700R4 from what i've found out but the 1 ton version (4L80E) is. so............. that is where i'm at thus far........ tranny headache!!! lets talk about some of the fun things like on board welder, ARB freezer/fridge, on board air, Hi-Lift jack, spare tire, rear winch? you know all the toys to be a "self-sufficent" rig.


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on May 15, 2008, 05:15:12 AM
lets talk about some of the fun things like on board welder, ARB freezer/fridge, on board air, Hi-Lift jack, spare tire, rear winch? you know all the toys to be a "self-sufficent" rig.

Yes to all of the above. Next.... ;D

NO I would do the premier power welder w/alt.  why? b/c you can run a grinder, a welder, a blender, a night light, a home stereo system, a toaster oven, ..... yeah I know it is now fitted to that vehicle and is not mobile to another vehicle, but this is the do all rig.

ARB Freezer Fridge definately, you can make Ice cubes in that thing, everyone loves Marguritas on the trail with your premier alt. ran blender.

On board air, I am torn.  I like the quickness of the PowerTank.  However the everlasting air of a Kilby set-up is nice too. both..yeah I think both.

Hi-lift jack? how else are you going to move those 40+ tires on and off if there is a punctured sidewall.  Lets throw another Idea in....what about the X-jack from ARB the exhaust jack, it folds flat takes up less space and probably won't slide off of a rocker guard and slap you...but if it pops, your pooped....not sure.

Spare tire..I say yeah, maybe not on all runs, but how Ironic would it be that you could weld something up but couldn't put a new tire on and drive out.  I guess the blender and freezer fridge would come in handy again.

Rear winch for cinch down, i think yes.  Rear winch for recovery...I don't know you already have a front winch and a hi-lift jack, and a V-8, and RockJocks and an Atlas...how many times might you need a rear winch for recovery?  I would do just cinch down.





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Post by: NickB on May 17, 2008, 05:25:54 PM
o o o i have a 4L60E out of a camero, sounds tempting...


p.s.

Big Block
theres no sound like a big block roasting 40s or 42s


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Post by: Skinny Cook on May 17, 2008, 05:48:35 PM


p.s.

Big Block
theres no sound like a big block roasting 40s or 42s

 That would be ok if it was a ZL-1.  ;D 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 19, 2008, 05:31:56 PM
okay no big blocks..... i just went through that befor starting this thread. what is everyone thinking about tires and why???? what are you running and why? what is the best all around and why??????????? I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU?????

MAX


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Post by: samb. on May 19, 2008, 05:47:53 PM
okay no big blocks..... i just went through that befor starting this thread. what is everyone thinking about tires and why???? what are you running and why? what is the best all around and why??????????? I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU?????

MAX


im thinking TSL/SX in a 42 siped of course
or the 54" bogger  ;D

IMO they performed well at harlan this weekend for all that ran them i was impressed


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: CoryL on May 20, 2008, 06:25:33 AM
Here comes the daily driver aspect of the Jeep that will force you to decide which way (DD or Trail) you want to go with this.

Good street manners:

40" MT/Rs - Problem is that for the price I don't think it is that great offroad, especially in anything that isn't bone dry sandstone.

40" KM2 - Better offroad than the MT/R, but it is 14.5 wide and still expensive.

42"x14.5x20 KM2 - Expensive, huge, and better offroad than the MT/R with streetability, but requires new rims.

39"x13.5 IROK Radials - You had IROKs once and didn't like them on the street.  They are cheaper than the others though.

41x14.50 IROK Radials - See above.

40x13.5 Maxxis Trepadors - Even the non-stickies work well, not the greatest on the street though.  And expensive.



This is a tough call.  Personally, I like the 40" KM2s for a good mix of street and trail.  Yes, they are expensive, butt anything that is pretty good at both will be.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 20, 2008, 07:24:51 PM
The only real experience I have with both onroad & offroad manners are Swampers. Both TSL's & SX's. I have to tell you that I think SX's are bullit proof period. I know that the sidewalls might be a bit stiff, BUT they do wear well. I drove a set to, all over and from Colorado and they did great. I do not know the available sizes for SX's. I would opt for 38's or 40's. They get my vote.

I wouldn't give you 5 cents for EVERY pair of MTR's ever produced. THEY SUCK !!!!!!!!!! I know I will NEVER own another pair of them. 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 21, 2008, 06:51:43 AM
Here comes the daily driver aspect of the Jeep that will force you to decide which way (DD or Trail) you want to go with this.

Good street manners:

40" MT/Rs - Problem is that for the price I don't think it is that great offroad, especially in anything that isn't bone dry sandstone.

40" KM2 - Better offroad than the MT/R, but it is 14.5 wide and still expensive.

42"x14.5x20 KM2 - Expensive, huge, and better offroad than the MT/R with streetability, but requires new rims.

39"x13.5 IROK Radials - You had IROKs once and didn't like them on the street.  They are cheaper than the others though.

41x14.50 IROK Radials - See above.

40x13.5 Maxxis Trepadors - Even the non-stickies work well, not the greatest on the street though.  And expensive.



This is a tough call.  Personally, I like the 40" KM2s for a good mix of street and trail.  Yes, they are expensive, butt anything that is pretty good at both will be.

cory i'm with ya on the KM2's i'm torn between those and either the 42" Swamper SX or IROK its nice hearing everyone's opinion.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: CoryL on May 21, 2008, 11:49:04 AM
Don't the 42" SXs require 20" wheels though?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 21, 2008, 07:42:54 PM
Don't the 42" SXs require 20" wheels though?

    :o  :o  :o  Bummer 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 21, 2008, 07:54:03 PM
Don't the 42" SXs require 20" wheels though?

yeah they do......... hmm........ anyone wanna buy some slightly used trail ready bead locks 17 X 9 5 on 5.5" hahaha


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 02, 2008, 06:36:27 AM
i'm thinking 42" IROKS now.


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Post by: bizeeb65 on June 02, 2008, 06:42:24 AM
I would go with the SX if I was choosing.  I have seen those tires on multiple vehicles grab and grip in whatever you point at em.  Plus sidewall strength seems to be a nice perk of the SX's. 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on June 02, 2008, 08:47:06 AM
max favorite tire is trepador
I think they may have a 40 by the time you need to actually by the tires


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 02, 2008, 06:58:27 PM
the SX means i'll have to get 20" rims. and the trepadors are the shit. if those are out then i'll prob. get those.... who knows however i do have a line on some 40" MTR.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: glfredrick on June 04, 2008, 05:13:26 PM
Max,

I've heard a lot of good ideas, but it seems as if the most imporant one has been left off!  Start with a FORD!   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on June 04, 2008, 07:21:27 PM
  Start with a FORD!   ;D

   :o  :o  :o  ::)  ;D 

  Yep, there are plenty settin on Fern Valley Rd. that could be had for cheap.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 05, 2008, 05:50:56 AM
hmmmmmm. ford what????? car, truck, tranny, engine, tail lights, and duh if you read the first post the tranny in my jeep is a FORD NP435!!!!!! pay attention people. hahahahhahahha  you didn't catch that one did ya. i'm a fan of ford too.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on June 05, 2008, 12:39:05 PM
Max,

I've heard a lot of good ideas, but it seems as if the most imporant one has been left off!  Start with a FORD!   ;D
::) ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on June 05, 2008, 09:51:42 PM
Max you gonna put some 20" spinners on it ?  :o  ;D  Gangsta rims with bead locks ? Be the first one on your block,,,well maybe.  I think the BROW may beat you to it ? ;D   :o ;D 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 09, 2008, 03:58:59 PM
Okay i got to see the 42" SX last weekend and all i got to say is............... DAMN!!!! NOW I'M THINKIN 2O'S


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: glfredrick on June 10, 2008, 03:37:32 AM
With 42" of tire and 20s, there would still be enough rubber sidewall to be effective off-road.  No place for low-profile tires.  We need the squish.

I am sort of concerned about the $$$ it takes to get to that level of bling factor though.  Seems like the dollars could be better spent in other upgrades that would offer more for the money.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 2000XJ on June 10, 2008, 06:46:29 AM
I don't like the the scrambler with it's rear overhang. I think it is awesome for mild...not for wild. I think the LJ length is nice, but stretch the WB to the same departure as a TJ.(5 inches?) that would be near/just under a nice 110 WB.


I like the Scrambler idea. Bob it in the rear an little to clear the overhang issue. Go look at the lattest issue of Jeep magazine. Prime example!!! ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 10, 2008, 08:52:31 AM
With 42" of tire and 20s, there would still be enough rubber sidewall to be effective off-road.  No place for low-profile tires.  We need the squish.

I am sort of concerned about the $$$ it takes to get to that level of bling factor though.  Seems like the dollars could be better spent in other upgrades that would offer more for the money.

I agree guy, i've already got 17" walker evans beadlocks good call!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 17, 2008, 06:07:17 AM
HELLO.........ANYBODY OUT THERE??  Okay let me get everyone updated. Sorry its been awhile and this thread has been a little dead, but here's what's going on.... I sold all of my 37" krawlers and bought some 40" Goodyear MTR's (thanks to Currie) not really the tire everyone suggested but the price was right. (http://drivetrain-4you.com/Drivetrain-Brand/images/currie.gif)really stepped up to the plate and gave a real nice discount to support the build with Aluminum High Steer knuckles, drive flanges for the front axle and Wilwood 4 piston calipers and larger rotors for the rear axle so now stopping 40's on the rig won't be a problem.  I went wheelin' in harlan 2 weekends ago and had bad overheating issues due to a stuck t-stat so bad the engine stalled 3 times and wouldn't start till it cooled off.  Then this last weekend at natural bridge a short in wiring for the electric fan caused it to get HOT again.... I guess letting a jeep sit for a year and a half can really piss the jeep off.  Hmmmm. To make a long story short the V8 has a small knock to it now and a re-build will be happening befor the drivetrain goes in the scrambler.  I also can't seem to get a NV4500 off my mind (smokey jeep will be happy to hear that). Other than that the ol MANGLESNAKE is doing great and I hope to see some of you all at the Badlands this weekend!!!

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/100_6513.jpg)

here's a couple pics from Haran

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Black%20Mountain%20in%20Harlan%202008/harlan608018.jpg)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Black%20Mountain%20in%20Harlan%202008/harlan608020.jpg)
Natural Bridge
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Natural%20Bridge%20June%202008/Max616478.jpg)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Natural%20Bridge%20June%202008/Max616463.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on June 17, 2008, 10:38:57 AM
Ahhh a big ole stick shift and Walker Evans Beadlocks. It's a beautiful thing.  8)  :o  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 17, 2008, 05:04:43 PM
Carter i'm serious... 4500 i'm gonna be checking prices on a used one to re-build on wednesday.  I'll keep ya posted.  Ohhh yeah walkers and 40" MTR's did I mention I got 2 sets and one set is comp. compound.............. hmm. steppin up da game on ya nauka!!! hahahahahahhahahahaha!!!!!!

-BHD


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Post by: Da-B on June 17, 2008, 08:23:58 PM
yeah but you can't out rib da dad ;D  :o


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Post by: Skinny Cook on June 17, 2008, 10:54:50 PM
Once you drive one you will never go back.  ;)  Seriously I KNOW there are diehard "auto" lovers on here HOWEVER IF you look at EVERY aspect of what is required of the CRAWLER/OFFROAD tranny you will pick the NV4500 everytime. It is a SMART choice. I have a BUNCH of miles with one and there is NOWAY I would trade it for an automatic,,,EVEN if somebody else was paying the bill !!! Seriously.  ;)

 You can go from CRAWL to 80 mph all in the throw of a twin stick. ANYBODY who says otherwise has NEVER driven one more than a few miles.

  I hope it works out.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Super Briar on June 20, 2008, 05:48:10 AM
Max,

All this scientific discussion about tubs, trannys, axles, engines, tires, & wheels is all well & good ;D...but what about the "decals"?

I think one of my Moab Offroad "Lil Max" Pig decals would really set this rig off 8)...you name the color & I'll get a couple of 'em made for ya ;)

I'm workin' on a "decal roll bar" you might want to consider too...after all ya don't want to scratch up the crowning jewel of your rig :o

Later,
Super (Decal Expert) Briar


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 20, 2008, 07:15:12 AM
Super Briar!!!! how have you been??? i'll take 4 decals in silver... sounds like the perfect addition to the rig!!!  have you been to our trail ride section?? cause I've not seen you on the trail.


-BHD


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on June 20, 2008, 09:47:50 AM
SB we all know that stickers will make a Drag Car faster but will they improve crawling ability ?   :o  ;D

  Hope all is well,,,,Give Mrs Briar a hug & pet Lil Max on the head for me.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on June 20, 2008, 12:46:52 PM
SB we all know that stickers will make a Drag Car faster but will they improve crawling ability ?   :o  ;D

  Hope all is well,,,,Give Mrs Briar a hug & pet Lil Max on the head for me.  ;D
Only if you put them on the bottom of the rig (low center of gravity) ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on June 20, 2008, 05:10:06 PM
Only if you put them on the bottom of the rig (low center of gravity) ;D

 LMAOOO  Good one.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 23, 2008, 04:27:54 PM
okay lets get back on track.  Currie has helped out BIG TIME with tires heavy duty knuckles, wilwood rear brakes, and drive flanges to handle the 40" MTR tires. So I think it is safe to say that the axles and tires are good to go!  Next on the agenda is suspension seats and harnesses.  What is everyone running and what do you like and what should I run????????  Lets get some input I talked to 3J7 this weekend and he perfers the PRP seats we sold him, Jonny T, and DIGGER like the Corbeau seats and my partner Jeremy is running the Beard seats.  We're dealers for all of those and a few more like MasterCraft This is "Everyone's Build" so let's let's debate seats and harnesses and buy it.  What's the best and why????????


-MAX


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on June 23, 2008, 04:59:58 PM
The only seats I have experience with are MasterCraft. I have set countless hours in Ralph's Scrambler and they have never gotten uncomfortable for me. They get my vote.  ;) 


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Post by: 3j7 on June 23, 2008, 08:41:14 PM
You heard what i said this weekend...  the prps are awesome...  that black vinyl gets HOT!!! ;D  I think the seats are just personal preference.  I would like to see a harness that is a little easier to deal with than the RCIs that i have.  Not complaining, but there has to be something out there closer to daily driver usage that would give yo uthe safety of a harness, but the convenience of a stock seat belt.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 24, 2008, 07:57:23 AM
Here are some links to the possible options:  check out each companies models and reccommend more than a brand

BEARD SEATS & CROW BELTS (http://www.redart.com/)
PRP SEATS (http://www.prpseats.com/home.html)
MASTER CRAFT SEATS & HARNESS (http://www.mastercraftseats.com/home.php)
CORBEAU SEATS & HARNESS (http://www.corbeau.com/)
RCI HARNESS (http://www.rciracing.com/)
RJS HARNESS (http://www.rjsracing.com/5point.html)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 24, 2008, 05:54:57 PM
You heard what i said this weekend...  the prps are awesome...  that black vinyl gets HOT!!! ;D  I think the seats are just personal preference.  I would like to see a harness that is a little easier to deal with than the RCIs that i have.  Not complaining, but there has to be something out there closer to daily driver usage that would give yo uthe safety of a harness, but the convenience of a stock seat belt.

So are you saying that you wish you would have done tweed instead of vinyl?  And exactly what is hard to deal with with the RCI harnesses?  Expand if you will so we know what your talking about and what your suggestion is for the build.  thanks 3J7.

-MAX


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 24, 2008, 05:57:12 PM
The only seats I have experience with are MasterCraft. I have set countless hours in Ralph's Scrambler and they have never gotten uncomfortable for me. They get my vote.  ;) 

Carter I thought Ralph had wide corbeau baja seats??? Or are you thinking about Overkill's Mastercraft reclining seats in his HEMI TJ???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on June 26, 2008, 11:17:05 AM
The only seats I have experience with are MasterCraft. I have set countless hours in Ralph's Scrambler and they have never gotten uncomfortable for me. They get my vote.  ;) 

Carter I thought Ralph had wide corbeau baja seats??? Or are you thinking about Overkill's Mastercraft reclining seats in his HEMI TJ???

 Could be ???  I can't remember,,,I only remember BBQ rubs.  :o  ;D  WHICHEVER, they are nice.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: rsiebert7 on June 26, 2008, 03:02:41 PM
I think you should look into a 10 bolt for the rear.  I know a guy selling one with 5.13 gears and the heavy duty 28 spline shafts.  Its a raw deal.  Should hold up to 40" mtr's no problem. 

P.S. will trade for rock jock straigt up. (will even throw in a burnt up alternator w/ heavy duty bracket)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 26, 2008, 04:15:04 PM
I think you should look into a 10 bolt for the rear.  I know a guy selling one with 5.13 gears and the heavy duty 28 spline shafts.  Its a raw deal.  Should hold up to 40" mtr's no problem. 

P.S. will trade for rock jock straigt up. (will even throw in a burnt up alternator w/ heavy duty bracket)

HAHAHAHAHA bout time you got on here nice pic too i think i took that pic of you at windrock!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on June 26, 2008, 10:19:41 PM
I would never do cloth seats in an offroad vehicle if i had a choice, just for the wet and dirty factor.  The only problem with the harnesses is if you get someone in the heep that has not a clue it will take 5 minutes to get them belted in... ::)  Just would like to see something easier to use.  Don't get me wrong i am very happy with my choice in seats and harnesses, especially after Badlands. 
Another seat option would be Hunsaker seats, and Sparco has some cool stuff (not just for the ricer crowd).  Plenty of choices out there for we customers to peruse...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 27, 2008, 05:53:50 AM
I would never do cloth seats in an offroad vehicle if i had a choice, just for the wet and dirty factor.  The only problem with the harnesses is if you get someone in the heep that has not a clue it will take 5 minutes to get them belted in... ::)  Just would like to see something easier to use.  Don't get me wrong i am very happy with my choice in seats and harnesses, especially after Badlands. 
Another seat option would be Hunsaker seats, and Sparco has some cool stuff (not just for the ricer crowd).  Plenty of choices out there for we customers to peruse...

I'm torn on the cloth thing, the seats in my CJ are vinyl and are very hot in the summer and cold in the winter so I always run grant seat covers.  In the TJ I've got tweed and it is comfy all the time.  BUT because of the "wet n dirty" thing I run the same seat covers on them.  Real torn on that one.  Now onto the harnesses, I've always had RCI and I don't have a Problem with them except for when I've got the shoulder harnesses on.  The 3 inch wide shoulder straps are a little wide and irritate my neck.  Still not a huge deal since I don't wear them alot but I think that 2 inch would suffice and 3 inch on the lab belt.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 27, 2008, 10:54:15 AM
Got cash just burning a hole in my pocket and still no suggestions........  This is YOUR BUILD what seats and harnesses do YOU want?????  Found a Scrambler and we're picking it up next week so that means I could start working on the dash, cage, SEATS, HARNESSES, catch my drift give some suggestions!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on June 27, 2008, 11:00:23 AM
(http://www.4wd.com/aux_incl/images.ashx?i=694-01.jpg&partNo=CBU&w=380)

(http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/sim-29061bk.jpg)



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on June 27, 2008, 11:55:21 AM
lets go Cadillac
Adjustable Mastercraft
(http://www.mastercraftseats.com/images/products_bajars.png)
Fixed Master Craft
(http://www.mastercraftseats.com/images/products_rubicon.png)
Adjustable Corbeau
(http://www.corbeau.com/product_images/baja_rs/black/BajaRec-66402B-F-XL.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on June 27, 2008, 12:01:02 PM
What about the fake leather PRPs?  Add a little class to your ride!! 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on June 27, 2008, 02:07:03 PM
4pt harness, 2in shoulder straps, 3in lap strap, Vinyl on the seats. Then you can run a seat cover and keep them clean for the show and shine competitions.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BIG85JEEP on June 27, 2008, 05:18:58 PM
([url]http://www.4wd.com/aux_incl/images.ashx?i=694-01.jpg&partNo=CBU&w=380[/url])




I'm running Corbeau Ultra SS's in my Jeep and LOVE them!! They are kind of like this but cloth all the way to the edge (no vinyl trim as pictured).  I have had them soaked and covered in mud but with the initial Scotch Guard treatment they got, it cleans right off EVERY time; they look brand new with only a few minutes with the Shop Vac. 

The only thing that kind of bites is that this is the only seat Corbeau makes that they do NOT make a cover for (as of Jan. 08 when I finished my build). For covers I went with the Mastercraft ones that fit a seat within an inch of depth from mine.  They have a relief cut in them so you can hop in to move it without having to remove the whole cover. Plus you can strap down a drink cooler full of Goombay and bartend out out the seat all weekend long.  Thankfully the covers clean up as well as the seats because after Harlan and 5 gallons of Goombay I thought I was going to have to throw out that cover!!

I run Crow Enterprizes harnesses in mine.  They are available in a BUNCH of colors to match your color scheme and you can mix and match widths.  I have 3" lap's with 2" shoulders.  The 2's are comfortable and effective plus with their small size they can be rolled up and tucked in the zippered pocket on the back of the Corbeau seat while trail riding.

I agree with Josh on the mild complexity of the latch and link stlye closure for novices but how often does that really pose a problem?  In my experience its been a woman and I never minded helping fasten it!!! Additionally I have had trouble in the past with the Cam Lock style and car type buckle getting full of mud and/or sand and failing to operate shortly after.  Latch and link all the way for me.

Cheers!
Jeff


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 27, 2008, 08:06:40 PM
([url]http://www.4wd.com/aux_incl/images.ashx?i=694-01.jpg&partNo=CBU&w=380[/url])




I'm running Corbeau Ultra SS's in my Jeep and LOVE them!! They are kind of like this but cloth all the way to the edge (no vinyl trim as pictured).  I have had them soaked and covered in mud but with the initial Scotch Guard treatment they got, it cleans right off EVERY time; they look brand new with only a few minutes with the Shop Vac. 

The only thing that kind of bites is that this is the only seat Corbeau makes that they do NOT make a cover for (as of Jan. 08 when I finished my build). For covers I went with the Mastercraft ones that fit a seat within an inch of depth from mine.  They have a relief cut in them so you can hop in to move it without having to remove the whole cover. Plus you can strap down a drink cooler full of Goombay and bartend out out the seat all weekend long.  Thankfully the covers clean up as well as the seats because after Harlan and 5 gallons of Goombay I thought I was going to have to throw out that cover!!

I run Crow Enterprizes harnesses in mine.  They are available in a BUNCH of colors to match your color scheme and you can mix and match widths.  I have 3" lap's with 2" shoulders.  The 2's are comfortable and effective plus with their small size they can be rolled up and tucked in the zippered pocket on the back of the Corbeau seat while trail riding.

I agree with Josh on the mild complexity of the latch and link stlye closure for novices but how often does that really pose a problem?  In my experience its been a woman and I never minded helping fasten it!!! Additionally I have had trouble in the past with the Cam Lock style and car type buckle getting full of mud and/or sand and failing to operate shortly after.  Latch and link all the way for me.

Cheers!
Jeff



You brought up some interesting things Jeff, like cleaning the cloth fabric.  I love the tweed interior that I put in my TJ.  And you mentioned something that no one else has like the "map pocket" on the back of the seat.  Some of these seat mfg. offer options of pockets, colors, fabric, speakers in headrests, and HEAT!!! thats right I said heated seats.  Everyone on here knows how much I wheel to promote the shop and the products we sell and if you all we're wheelin' 2-3 weekends a month rain, snow, or shine, you would want to be as comfy as possible.  On the TJ when I had the seats re-covered in tweed/vinyl I had a Map pocket put on the backs and a Pocket on the front of the seat (behind your knee) and I use them for everything!!! Depending on which seats we go with I'll be looking to do some of the same options.  Also latch n link for me too!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BIG85JEEP on June 28, 2008, 12:30:58 PM
Another thing to consider in harnesses is the placement of the adjuster.  Some harnesses handle the adjustment at the buckle which makes it wide and really uncomfortable compared to the other latch and link type where the buckle is narrow and the adjustment is done further down the belt.  Sounds insignificant but sit in each for a weekend and you'll see the differnece.  The wide one digs into your body pretty bad when you're moving around looking for drinks or changing radio stations!!

The picture that Skip-not-so-firece posted exibts the ideal type of adjustment/buckle...(I think)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 28, 2008, 03:13:47 PM
right the adjustment as crow calls it is pull-up or pull-down.  My RCI's are pull down and your right about that uncomfortable thing.... it sucks everytime I push in the clutch my leg gets pinched.  Pull-ups are the way to go.  How about all the seat options that beard offers?  http://www.redart.com/


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on June 29, 2008, 06:16:08 AM
I run the Beard Seats in my TJ.  They are the enduro model, the model that Beard recommends for a Jeep for the best fit.  I installed one in July of last year and the other in the fall.  I ran a Cherokee for years and after a good weekend of wheeling or trailriding my back could get sore.  I also always felt like I was fighting to stay in the seat.  Since I have installed these in the TJ my back rarely if ever gets sore. I feel like I have more control b/c I am not sliding around in the seat.  I can also beat up down the trail and a decent clip without knocking my teeth out.  I would like to add harness' I feel like they would hold me deeper in the seat. 

 As far as the tweed to vinyl debate, mine are tweed, they occasionaly get wet and they def. get dirty.  The water runs through them quickly and they dry fast.  For wear?  I have noticed 2 issues with the older more used driver seat, 1 is i have a small tear in the front of the fabric, I am certain this is from someone standing on my seat (not me)and the other I just noticed I am not sure if it is from my camel back that I currently mount through the harness holes, or from my pocket knife's side clip, it is a small slight tear in the harness pocket, both of which Beard said they would cover (i.e. replacement seat or replacement cover).
 What about colors?  If we are deciding on interior have we thought of a color scheme for the whole vehicle yet?  I like Red, I think it is just flashy enough to catch your attention while not being an eyesore.  My vote is a different red (candy apple or something)  and Silver, grey, and black interior.
J


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on June 29, 2008, 12:53:52 PM
What about Dr. Pepper red? ;D
ALso, Max, your not going to have to worry about pushing in a clutch anymore, right?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: rsiebert7 on June 29, 2008, 03:28:17 PM
just get something coming they're all nice. Heated seats sound good but cadillac has air conditioned seats. you should see if anyone offers those.  only request i have is that the passenger seat is sitting on the same height as the drivers.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 29, 2008, 03:39:16 PM
What about Dr. Pepper red? ;D
ALso, Max, your not going to have to worry about pushing in a clutch anymore, right?

true no more clutch since lucas gacked the turbo 400 looks like I'm doing the 700R4.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 29, 2008, 03:43:47 PM
just get something coming they're all nice. Heated seats sound good but cadillac has air conditioned seats. you should see if anyone offers those.  only request i have is that the passenger seat is sitting on the same height as the drivers.


hahahaha I'm leanin toward Beard... I think heat will be nice. and they will be the same height.  Get them coming.... I'm buying a scrambler on monday!!!!! you try and find a scrambler tub in good shape. or a TJ grill that dosen't cost a fortune. check these out http://twistedstitchinc.com/714-773-0233/index.php?t=_offroad&s=02-offpro


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Da-B on June 29, 2008, 05:04:26 PM

true no more clutch looks like I'm doing the 700R4.

   :o  ::)  ::)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on June 29, 2008, 09:43:31 PM
the twisted stich seats look nice,however I don't like how deep they are.  That would be great for aggressive rocks and a lot of in seat time, however we are always in and out of the Jeeps all of the time and I think the high bolsters would prove a pain in the rear.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 30, 2008, 04:29:12 PM
I'm leaning hard toward PRP seats like the ones we sold 3J7. They do heat, speakers, rear AND side pockets, and one of the coolest things is a "water pocket" on the back. that holds a camelback bladder.  Just like the one I have hanging off the back of my seats now.  I wasn't aware of all this untill talking to Aaron at PRP.  Some of those options arn't on their website yet.     ALSO WE GOT THE SCRAMBLER TODAY!!!!!  We forgot camera's today but I'll post pics tomorrow.


How cool the water pocket..... hmm....

-max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on June 30, 2008, 08:31:22 PM
You will love them...  Also I like the idea of 3 inch lapbelts and 2 inch shoulder belts, seems like that would work well.  I still think you should look into the pleather, too.
But only wimps need heat. ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on June 30, 2008, 08:36:07 PM
You guys said Scrambler Tub, well here ya go.... ;)
This is now sitting at the shop
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/cellphone078.jpg)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/cellphone079.jpg)

Don't forget Max is letting you all make decisions to build this project, You get to build this with out spending any of your own money.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on June 30, 2008, 08:46:23 PM
How about a whole article by BillaVista
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Harnesses/


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 01, 2008, 07:55:34 AM
nice link on harnesses Jeremy!!!  So I took some pics of the seats in the TJ and the options on those seats. Here's the front pocket: (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/fronttjseatpocket.jpg)  And here's the rear pocket: (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/TJseatpocket.jpg) And the camelback in the CJ that I use in both Jeeps:  (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/camelbackonCJseat.jpg) And these are the seats that came with the scrambler:  (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/hereswhatwereworkingwith.jpg)  The pocket options, heat, and water pocket are ALL options that are pointing toward PRP SEATS.  PRP also does a Playmate cooler cover custom made to match your seats. (if you've wheeled with me you know that the playmate is what I use) And some really cool Buggy bags and Tool bags so I can carry ALL of ninja scott's spare parts haha (just kidding scott) the competition highback is what I'm thinking about: http://www.prpseats.com/store_seats.html


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on July 01, 2008, 08:21:31 AM
That's a great idea on the Camelback. I always used it while riding the quad but never thought about it for the CJ.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 01, 2008, 09:04:07 PM
I would pass on the heat deal. It's just something else to wire and IF they get soaked ??? WHO knows what will happen then ?  :o  :o  ::) 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 02, 2008, 10:55:48 AM
Talked to Aaron at PRP today and this is what we're thinking.  check out the "water pocket" and the seat cushion flips out for cleaning.  This is a nice seat!!!!  (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/COMP_PRO_HB_W_WATERPOCKET.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 02, 2008, 11:52:59 AM
Looks nice except for those high bolsters. How long do they stand behind the vinyl beads/seams ?

  Your arse will get sore sliding in and out all day. OHHHHH BABY,,,,oh wait we are talkin seats,,,,,  :o   ;D   ;D 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on July 02, 2008, 12:34:33 PM
I want to see that tub blasted and shot with line-x inside.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on July 02, 2008, 12:50:50 PM
The removable cushion is an option i wish i had gotten...  those are nice.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BIG85JEEP on July 02, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
Talked to Aaron at PRP today and this is what we're thinking.  check out the "water pocket" and the seat cushion flips out for cleaning.  This is a nice seat!!!!  ([url]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/COMP_PRO_HB_W_WATERPOCKET.jpg[/url])



That seat is PIMP!!!  (I'd get 2 of them!!!)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bizeeb65 on July 02, 2008, 05:55:26 PM
Max,

I know you were hunting a TJ grill and hood...  Check it.

http://louisville.craigslist.org/pts/740147783.html


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on July 03, 2008, 08:24:17 AM
Damn nice seats!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 03, 2008, 06:11:55 PM
Max,

I know you were hunting a TJ grill and hood...  Check it.

[url]http://louisville.craigslist.org/pts/740147783.html[/url]


actually I would stay CJ BUT..... everyone decided on a TJ front clip so.... now i'm searching for a TJ grill.  Thanks alex I'll give them a call.

max


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Post by: Super Briar on July 05, 2008, 07:38:58 AM
Super Briar!!!! how have you been??? I'll take 4 decals in silver... sounds like the perfect addition to the rig!!!  have you been to our trail ride section?? cause I've not seen you on the trail.


-BHD

BHD...I'll bring ya 4 silver "pig" decals down to French Lick in October...I've been pretty much stuck up here in Yankee territory cause of my wife's work schedule...I did go up to Michigan last Febuary to the Sno-Blind Expidition...wheeled in 2-3 ft. of snow for 3 days...had a blast.

Later
SB


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 08, 2008, 06:58:07 PM
Sweet Super "B" can't wait to get you on mine and carter's trail in October.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 08, 2008, 07:11:30 PM
So here is the update.... I'm waiting to hear back from Aaron @ PRP Seats, that seems to be the seat of choice since I posted the pic.  Now on to the next topic which unexpectedly snuck up on me.  Remember when I said the CJ OVERHEATED in Harlan and now it has a small KNOCKING NOISE.... Hmmmmmm well it's NOT SMALL ANY MORE!!!!  If you look at the "Shop Talk" section you'll see me tearing apart a 350, 4 bolt main, 2pc. rear main seal block down to the rotating assem.  I'm might just keep this part of the build HUSH HUSH.. Wink, Wink, Nudge, Nudge!!! If you know what I mean.  However I'm building a NEW V8 and should have it in over the next 3 weeks due to the wheelin schedule.  I WILL POST PICS!!!  Now did anyone mention harnesses??? I'm thinkin Crow.  What is everyone else thinking???  I think we got 2" shoulder and 3" lap with "pull down adjustment" but what brand and WHY???  Build this rig!!!


Thanks,
Max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on July 09, 2008, 07:14:02 PM
Well we started cleaning up the Scrambler tonight, it started with cleaning...
Then we decided to lift the body off of the frame so we could start working on it...
Then after I have heard dozen times out of Max's mouth that he doesn't do body work, and Moab doesn't do body work, he pulls out an arsenal of tools, body tools and then continues to impress me with his body working skills.  Man I love this shop...Everytime I think I get a good grasp on the vast mechanical abilities of the guys, they pull another out, so I guess I should say about Body work that we don't specialize in it however if you want to do a complete build in one spot, we are your spot.

So lets think about what you can get done at Moab:
Full standard service and repair,
Engine building
Aftermarket accesories professionally installed
Gear work
Manual transmission rebuilds
Transfercase rebuilds
Aftermarket suspensions professionally installed
Custom built suspensions
Custom fabrication
and  now
if you request on a complete build possibly Body work.

on to the pictures;
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More here
http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/


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Post by: samb. on July 10, 2008, 02:30:59 AM
starting to come together

specs on the green willys in the background (pic 7) PM it so it dont disrupt the flow of the thread  ;D


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 10, 2008, 07:03:56 AM
haha okay notice that i'm in none of those pics but one.... where i'm sanding the cowl.  i really don't do body work!!! ugh. sort of. i think... anyways i got real lucky yesterday.  I asked Evan to start cleaning out the scrambler and next time i looked out there Jeff, Doug, and Q-Sheezy were taking the tub off the frame.  That was a BIG help!!! I'm gonna have to watch what i do around here cause Jeremy might start selling body work haha.  well i can't thank the guys enough for helping out.  And i just sanded a little bit to see if this tub really was a "diamond in the rough" I think it is.


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Post by: skipfierce on July 10, 2008, 02:23:33 PM
Sweet! Looks like the rig is getting some much needed love.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bizeeb65 on July 10, 2008, 07:52:57 PM
Max...

Forget the TBI 350.   You most certainly need to go with a turbo LS1...

And here is why... (this is a local truck).

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Second-drive-a-little_170085.htm?Ref=Blog


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: tcup on July 10, 2008, 08:20:50 PM
where do i start!i take it there was a fire/age...#1,bare fucking metal,#2,acid etching primer.NOT FROM A SPRAY CAN!!!#3 stip it all to metal then acid etch primer,then do all bodywork on top of said primer,A GREAT PAINT JOB IS 99 PERCENT PREP!YOU CAN DO THIS!BLOCK,PRIME,BLOCK.PRIME,THEN BLOCK PRIME AGAIN!!!IF YOU CAN LAY FLAMES ON A FIBERGLASS HOOD THAN YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!!!MUCH RESPECT FOR NOT BUYING AN AFTERMARKET TUB,OLD METAL SOOTHES THE SOUL,IT'S MORE WORK,BUT THE PAYOFF IS HUGE!!!DRIVING SOMETHING THAT CAME OFF THE ASSEMBLY LINE WHEN YOU WERE A KID IS PRICELESS!!!GO TO BARE METAL AND THE PAYOFF IS VERY REWARDING!!!!YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!DON'T RUSH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on July 10, 2008, 08:40:03 PM
Max...

Forget the TBI 350.   You most certainly need to go with a turbo LS1...

And here is why... (this is a local truck).

[url]http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Second-drive-a-little_170085.htm?Ref=Blog[/url]

That is my favorite truck in the whole world.  That is what you need max, turbo!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 11, 2008, 05:35:34 AM
Max...

Forget the TBI 350.   You most certainly need to go with a turbo LS1...

And here is why... (this is a local truck).

[url]http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Second-drive-a-little_170085.htm?Ref=Blog[/url]

WHOA!!!!  a S-10 gettin NASTY!!!! hahaahhaha


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 11, 2008, 05:37:45 AM
where do i start!i take it there was a fire/age...#1,bare fucking metal,#2,acid etching primer.NOT FROM A SPRAY CAN!!!#3 stip it all to metal then acid etch primer,then do all bodywork on top of said primer,A GREAT PAINT JOB IS 99 PERCENT PREP!YOU CAN DO THIS!BLOCK,PRIME,BLOCK.PRIME,THEN BLOCK PRIME AGAIN!!!IF YOU CAN LAY FLAMES ON A FIBERGLASS HOOD THAN YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!!!MUCH RESPECT FOR NOT BUYING AN AFTERMARKET TUB,OLD METAL SOOTHES THE SOUL,IT'S MORE WORK,BUT THE PAYOFF IS HUGE!!!DRIVING SOMETHING THAT CAME OFF THE ASSEMBLY LINE WHEN YOU WERE A KID IS PRICELESS!!!GO TO BARE METAL AND THE PAYOFF IS VERY REWARDING!!!!YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!DON'T RUSH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks TCUP,  the rattle can was just to cover the bare metal for now I'm not starting on body work for awhile.  I just wanted to see if there really was metal under all the rust lol...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: tcup on July 11, 2008, 08:13:37 PM
okay,take that tub to lagrange,let them sandblast it,bring it home then cover all the metal with ppg's dp90 primer,it does'nt have to be pretty,just get it on there!do all of your bodywork on top of it,call stories get a good 2k urethane primer,like i said before-prime block,then prime block some more-BREAK IN EVANS VIRGIN FINGERTIPS(OR REMOVE THEM DURING THIS STEP!)when your last coat of primer goes on let it set for a month,making sure not to get greasy fingerprints on it!!you pretty much know the rest for paint prep max,it's all about the details!the painting is the easy part.either get it linexed,or baseclear the inside.powdercoat the frame some other color than black,and please put some baby blue on that thing,and something billet!go back to your c10 roots!the coolest hotrods are the ones least expected,and i know you...you like to do the upper rock garden,then pull in front of cahoots and floss that thing(the way it should be!)kmc beadlocks are a must.can anyone say polished aluminum atlas11?the tub---NO CUTTING-ONLY LUVIN'!!!


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Post by: tcup on July 11, 2008, 09:23:37 PM
no stainless dash-its too easy,maybe a body color/accent color dash with hotrod pinstripes cleared over.CARTER BUTTON MAKES MY TASTEBUDS HAVE A HARD ON(sorry had to get that outta the way.)hotrod style gauges,send those suspension seats to be color matched(you know yer gonna get pockets sewn into em anyways)i think either an nv4500 or a 700r4(the latter so i can wheel it!)a bitchin stereo-(i.e"the used/seaweed)rollcage bottle opener(cosmetic only-NO GLASS ON THE TRAIL!)color matched air cleaner with pinstripes.i don't know enough with the mechanical jargen so i just stick with what my employers think i know-paint and body..i think this ride should be street legal and much to my dismay.....A DOWN SOUTH DIXIE AIR HORN(paybacks a bitch triple d!)also backseat and a toolbox,also a color matched and pinstriped powertank.one last thing..make it low to the ground so i can get in it at 4 in the morning---nuff said.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 13, 2008, 12:46:33 PM
LMAOOO 

 Well that was random tcup.  :o  :o  ;D 

 MAX we need to go pick up that dolly !!! ASAP !!!  ;)


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Post by: tcup on July 14, 2008, 11:07:16 AM
good brisket is never random mr button.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 14, 2008, 02:45:14 PM
good brisket is never random mr button.

 No Tim, but it does need to be juicy.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 20, 2008, 08:07:46 PM
Okay so I've got seats comming from PRP and since you all never really came up with a harness, I'm going with some new ones that PRP is making. 2in. shoulders and 3in. lap, latch n link, with "pull-up adjustment".  The seats are the PRP Comp. Pro's with a removable seat cusion for easy cleaning.  I went with Tweed fabric front and vinyl back(thanks to BIG85JEEP'S advice) with a "flame stich pattern" double stich instead of "piping" for durability (thanks to Smokey Jeep) tan and black is the color, with a map pocket and a camel back bladder sewn on the back, also a side pocket sewn on as well.  That sould give me a little more storage space and a place to store Jeff's Famous GUMBAY PUNCH!!!!  For the cold days I got the heat option and adj. lumbar support.  So I got a little carried away with options. They have so many and since your in that seat ALL of the time I figure you might as well INVEST in comfort (and style too).

Now let me tell everyone about how easy it is to work with PRP. I first talked to Aaron at PRP about this build and told him about how YOU ALL ARE BUILDING THIS RIG for me.  He thought it was a cool idea and wanted PRP to be a part of it.  After many phone calls on  colors and all the seat options that they offer, he was very helpful and insightful on which seat would suit me best.  When it came time to order I was patched through to Mitch who suggested the lumbar support, and then got a ear full on colors and fabric.  Make a long story short I can't thank Mitch and Aaron enough for their patience and on top of that PRP gave a HUGE additional discount in support of THIS BUILD.   

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prplogo.jpg) (http://www.prpseats.com)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on July 21, 2008, 10:58:57 AM
VERY cool on the seat deal Max ! The lumbar adj is a great idea.

  BTW I know that Gumbay Smash Punch recipe. It is goooooood ! When we do that pig roast party/open house deal we will have to make a batch.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 21, 2008, 09:07:52 PM
that sounds good smokey jeep.  Okay I'll post up pics of the seats when they get here PRP usually has a 3-4 week turn around on custom orders.  NOW let's move on to the next subject: RECOVERY, WHAT SOULD EVERYONE HAVE AND WHY??? If there are some things that I don't have then let's figure out what that is and get it.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on July 21, 2008, 10:20:39 PM
warn powerplant or one of their bigger winches in case you ever wanna pull something like a stuck tow rig or a building over (been there done that AWESOME)
straps (duh)
regular winch stuff


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 22, 2008, 05:42:48 AM
The Warn Powerplant is a great idea!!! kinda kills 2 birds with one stone.  Winch and onboard air.  Tow straps, and by winch stuff do you mean snatch block, tree saver, syn. winchline, d-rings, etc.


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Post by: skipfierce on July 22, 2008, 06:32:47 AM
Hi-Lift
D-rings/Tow hooks
Synthetic winch line to go with that Power Plant.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on July 22, 2008, 12:49:11 PM
On board welder...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 22, 2008, 04:19:43 PM
I agree on the Powerplant deal. After reading those specs today I was impressed.

60" Hi-Lift,,,,duh. Can of WD-40 or PB Blaster.

ARB 12V light,the standard clevis,tow straps,ect.

Roll out piece of floor mat to lay on.

Full size matching spare tire W air wrench. 

I think the welder should be a plug in deal that stays in a bag unless needed. It's a water/electrics don't mix deal.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 23, 2008, 11:40:35 AM
Well Hi-Lift   has kicked in.  They have sent me A Slide-N-Lock cargo management set-up which will come in handy in the bed of that Scrambler, as well as a Hi-Lift Extreme 60" Jack. 
The Hi-Lift® X-TREME is for the serious Hi-Lift user, offering the "top of the line" all-cast version (48" or 60" sizes) with special features that include, charcoal metallic powder-coat finish, gold zinc-coated hardware and handle, and a special top winch-clamp-spreader attachment.
 Charcoal Metallic Powder-Coat Finish provides a truly unique look that separates it from the standard Hi-Lift.
 Gold Zinc-Coat Hardware ensures the greatest rust resistance from extreme use for all the hardware, the unique winch-clamp-spreader attachment, and the handle.
 Unique Winch-Clamp-Spreader Attachment replaces the clamp-clevis of standard Hi-Lift
 Winch, clamp, or spread up to 5,000 lbs.
One position for all winching, clamping, and spreading positions. 

Look at this;
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Thanks to Tom at Hi-Lift for his support and willingness to help Moab Offroad and this build
(http://www.hi-lift.com/media/images/logo.gif) (http://www.hi-lift.com/)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on July 23, 2008, 11:59:57 AM
I noticed that Hi-Lift when I was out there earlier today. That thing is friggin huge!

I'd like to eventually get me a Slide-N-Lock kit like that for the CJ. About how much do those cost?
 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 23, 2008, 12:07:06 PM
That jack system is some pimp azz shizz Max !  ;D  Let's hope it NEVER gets used.  8)

 Hi-Lift has always been tops in my book !  ;)


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Post by: "Benny D" on July 24, 2008, 07:28:50 AM
Max, I am diggin' those seats.  Something like I had in mind, but I think I will probably go with vinyl (the only downside to vinyl that I could think of is how hot they would get in the summer).  I would definately go with  the warn powerplant.  Candy red paint would look good and keep the manglesnake soul alive!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 24, 2008, 09:06:04 AM
Hey Ben, the seats are pimp and I'm also doing matched tool bags, cooler cover, elec. impact bag, buggy bag, and seat covers!!! pritty cool huh.  Candy red, polished stainless dash with red accents.  OHHHH YEAH I talked to my sales rep Brian at WARN and he said they're on board and sponsoring the build.... not sure what with yet but I'll keep ya posted!!!!  Maybe a PowerPlant Winch??

-MAX





Looking at about 480-520 HP is that anything?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on July 24, 2008, 07:20:17 PM





Looking at about 480-520 HP is that anything?
Just a stump-pullin', axle hollowin' good time!
I agree with Carter on the welder.  Something that can be put away and covered up will probably last longer than an underhood mounted welder, especially around here...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JEPPI on July 24, 2008, 09:32:01 PM
Hey Max, when you get your winch or winches I think I have some winchline for you

How about a setup like this for the front or would red be better?
(http://winchline.com/images-vehicles/viking%20winchline%20OR%20m.jpg)

And for the rear, I think you need a hook like I have
(http://winchline.com/images-vehicles/viking%20winchline%20jeppi%20m.jpg)

And I think you will need one of these, let me see if I can think of anything else you will need for this rig
(http://winchline.com/images-products/spotterline-rr.jpg)


...Maybe a PowerPlant Winch??

-MAX





Looking at about 480-520 HP is that anything?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 25, 2008, 08:16:03 AM
  We've been using/selling VIKING OFFROAD  products for about 4-5 years now and had great success with ALL of them.  VIKING OFFROAD  offers syn. winchline, tree savers, tow straps, spotter lines, snatch blocks, fairleads and splice kits. I can't thank you enough Jon for donating to the build!!!

  Also if anyone on the forum wants anything from Jon at WINCHLINE.COM/VIKING OFFROAD  We are putting together a stock order for the showroom and we'll cover shipping.

3J7 this is a great time for you to get that spotter line!!!

(http://www.winchline.com/images/viking-winchline-wht-blu.gif) (http://www.winchline.com/)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 25, 2008, 09:29:11 AM
SWEET stuff there Jeppi.  ;) I think he needs RED.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BIG85JEEP on July 26, 2008, 04:51:54 PM
Something that can be put away and covered up will probably last longer than an underhood mounted welder, especially around here...

You can mount it in or under the dash...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on July 26, 2008, 06:40:55 PM
Something that can be put away and covered up will probably last longer than an underhood mounted welder, especially around here...

You can mount it in or under the dash...

how about dueling gloveboxes, one for the welder one for a glove box.....


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 26, 2008, 07:17:51 PM
 

I think the welder should be a plug in deal that stays in a bag unless needed. It's a water/electrics don't mix deal.

hmmm interesting.... so are we saying Ready Welder  or Premier Power Welder???  I've used them both and think that they both have their advantages.  The Ready Welder has a plastic case and hooks up to some vehicle batteries (good for the water/electrics thing).  The Premier Power  Welder hard mounts to the vehicle and and can charge batteries, run 110v items like angle grinders, blenders for mixed drinks, hair dryer etc. ohh yeah and weld too. 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 26, 2008, 08:06:28 PM
I'm on the "KSS" model of Welder.  ;D

 The Premier unit is a PIMP unit, VERY nice BUTT it runs off of or replaces the Alternator right ? What if it breaks ? Can you buy parts to fix it at the local NAPA ?

What about the diff in the duty cycles between the two ?

 IF you are using it to weld, then buy a welder. My vote would have to be with the Ready unit IF THE DUTY CYCLES are similar.  ;)

 I'm pretty sure that the Premier unit costs ALOT more ? That's my 2cts worth.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on July 26, 2008, 09:26:10 PM
 
3J7 this is a great time for you to get that spotter line!!!

([url]http://www.winchline.com/images/viking-winchline-wht-blu.gif[/url]) ([url]http://www.winchline.com/[/url])
Prices? Colors?  I still need to get over there to get that tubing, do not make your order before I talk to you!!
Thanx ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 27, 2008, 09:59:05 AM
we'll leave the light on for ya 3J7!!!

okay smokey jeep, the ready welder is a spool gun mig welder that we're buying for the shop so it can go in any vehicle and on every trail ride.  However for the "Ultimate Rig" what should that have?  I think the Premier Power Welder is ideal because you get a higher amp alt., 110v outlet, and the ability to arc weld.  To "Keep It Simple Stupid" sure the Ready Welder, but for the "Ultimate Rig" I say Premier Power Welder.


What does everyone else think???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on July 27, 2008, 11:21:47 AM
I say premier,
 you are going to need the bigger alt to keep up with 2 winches and whatever lighting is coming up down the road, plus the stereo and amp...so if you're gonna coin up for the alt. might as well get the whole shebang.  I mean your bad hair may need a blowdryer one of these days and where we camp that ain't happening unless u use those v8 tailpipes, but then you smell funny.

I vote premier.!
J


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 28, 2008, 05:50:51 AM
haha tailpipe dryer.... hahaha lol!  good point on the high amp alt. lighting dual winches. hadn't thought that far ahead.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 28, 2008, 09:31:52 AM
haha tailpipe dryer.... hahaha lol!  good point on the high amp alt. lighting dual winches. hadn't thought that far ahead.

 Tailpipe Cologne,,,, good one.  ;D
 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BIG85JEEP on July 28, 2008, 02:35:53 PM
we'll leave the light on for ya 3J7!!!

okay smokey jeep, the ready welder is a spool gun mig welder that we're buying for the shop so it can go in any vehicle and on every trail ride.  However for the "Ultimate Rig" what should that have?  I think the Premier Power Welder is ideal because you get a higher amp alt., 110v outlet, and the ability to arc weld.  To "Keep It Simple Stupid" sure the Ready Welder, but for the "Ultimate Rig" I say Premier Power Welder.


What does everyone else think???

I vote Premier.   

The club has the ready welder and it is perfect for passing from trail master to trail master year after year.  Of the many times we have used it, it has been a PITA to wrestle batteries out of Jeeps. 

This rig being built to be the ultimate rig with the ultimate in self-sufficiency needs a Premier.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 28, 2008, 04:07:26 PM
I agree BIG85JEEP, I think that the Premier Power Welder  is the way to go.  I've personally used both and their both good units however the Premier Power  is my 1st choice.  It's just capable of so many more options.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 28, 2008, 04:13:37 PM
WELL after doing some homework I agree with you guys. PP seems to be a clear choice.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 28, 2008, 04:17:20 PM
Smokey Jeep I knew you would come around!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 28, 2008, 05:16:43 PM
HA ! 

 WELLLL Jeremy gave me a little education on that other brand of welder. That pretty much sealed the deal.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 28, 2008, 06:18:39 PM
So is it safe to say that Premier Power Welder  gets the VOTE???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 29, 2008, 09:45:47 AM
So is it safe to say that Premier Power Welder  gets the VOTE???

 Yep, gots my vote.  ;D


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on July 29, 2008, 11:32:36 AM
So is it safe to say that Premier Power Welder  gets the VOTE???

 Yep, gots my vote.  ;D

x2
Might as well do it right the first time.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 29, 2008, 01:41:59 PM
Well you guys keep up the input!
 A few calls to Premier Power Welder  and they are on board with a lot of help to keep this build going as a full on Rig the "Ultimate Rig" persay.

 Premier Power Welder has been around for about 29 years with a proven track record.  Unlike some of the competition Premier Power Welder is  one of the few units that can charge a battery with out the addition of any other kits.  It is a straight forward 6 wire hook-up. This kit comes ready to weld and with the addition of a few components you can MIG weld or TIG Weld. This unit is 100% duty cycle, and because of the power outlet you can prep the welding area and everyone that weld's realizes that a large percentage of a good weld is good prep.  Plus you can run pretty much anything else that plugs in at your house.  Did I Mention battery charging capabilities??? Like it can take a battery from 6 volts to 36 volts in 3.5 min... is that anything to you?

Thanks again to Jan & Pat  at Premier Power Welder.

(http://www.premierpowerwelder.com/images/top_bar_new_05.gif) (http://www.premierpowerwelder.com)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on July 29, 2008, 01:59:18 PM
I'm glad to know that after WE all get done with OUR input on this build we each get a weekends use out of this thing.  :o  :o  ;D  ;D

 Awesome deal on the PP Welder Max ! It is a 100% quality product in my eyes.  ;)


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Post by: "Benny D" on July 30, 2008, 09:12:12 AM
The ppw is sick - - 100% duty cycle is crazy for that little thing! Uuuhhhh I'm talking about the welder ::)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 30, 2008, 08:13:46 PM
There are alot of parts in route...... It is going to be like X-Mas around the shop next week.  You all have chosen some really cool parts for this build and I'm starting to get pretty amped on putting this thing together.  I can't THANK YOU ALL enough for helping out with this build it has been a blast so far.  And we still have a LONG way to go. So since we're talking about electronics.....  Let's talk about GPS, Stero, CB's, and interior lighiting.    WHAT ARE YOU USING, WHAT DO YOU LIKE, WHAT MAKES THE "ULTIMATE RIG"??????


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Post by: samb. on July 31, 2008, 02:28:39 AM
it needs a lightbar  :D
some LED rocklights and possibly a pair of fog lights in the KC or Hella flavor


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on July 31, 2008, 06:02:36 AM
you said you had some Hella HID's? those are very cool. Need a cobra 25 with NOAA weather on it, maybe peaked and tuned...


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 31, 2008, 06:20:49 AM
it needs a lightbar  :D
some LED rocklights and possibly a pair of fog lights in the KC or Hella flavor

L.E.D. Rock lights I like that idea.  Seems like roundeyes sells some cool ones!!


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Post by: samb. on July 31, 2008, 07:57:44 AM
oh yeah i forgot to say this earlier but it need aircraft switches for all the electronics ;D


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on July 31, 2008, 04:59:42 PM
http://www.magellangps.com/products/product.asp?segID=391&prodID=1753 for GPS...should do off road and street maps, with topo's and waterproof to boot!



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Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 31, 2008, 09:53:52 PM
[url]http://www.magellangps.com/products/product.asp?segID=391&prodID=1753[/url] for GPS...should do off road and street maps, with topo's and waterproof to boot!





that crossover is pretty bad!!!! but should it be hand held or hard-mount??? because I have a etrek legend hand held and it has been great so far. 


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 01, 2008, 04:27:51 AM
They usually have a windshield mout that is also a charger. But when out of the vehicle the gps can be removed from the mount and carried.


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Post by: peej23 on August 01, 2008, 06:20:55 AM
max where are you planning to mount the welder?


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Post by: peej23 on August 01, 2008, 06:29:40 AM
ok and also you wanted an answer to other stereo etc.

just add a pigtail for an mp3 player and wire up some nice waterproof speakers thru an amp.

Interior lighting should be simple blue leds


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 01, 2008, 09:30:51 AM
Flexible/switchable interior lights. An ARB floresent (like the one in the showroom)w/ plug in/clamp on pigtails for serious trail work.

 I would use a Marine grade radio/speakers/& amp. Use solder/heat shrink tubing for all connections.

 IPF's up front. 2 sets, one's like on the frt of Manglesnake for your main lights, the other like my wide beams on the frt of the Scramburban. 901's,,,966's ?  What is that number Max ? The thin ones mounted over my winch. 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 01, 2008, 05:34:10 PM
max where are you planning to mount the welder?

Chris not sure..... glovebox?? what are you thinking??


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 01, 2008, 06:18:28 PM
I think the glove box would be a good choice Max. It is centrally located as well as out of the elements for the most part.  ;)


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Post by: Paul on August 02, 2008, 06:45:20 PM
There are alot of parts in route...... It is going to be like X-Mas around the shop next week.  You all have chosen some really cool parts for this build and I'm starting to get pretty amped on putting this thing together.  I can't THANK YOU ALL enough for helping out with this build it has been a blast so far.  And we still have a LONG way to go. So since we're talking about electronics.....  Let's talk about GPS, Stero, CB's, and interior lighiting.    WHAT ARE YOU USING, WHAT DO YOU LIKE, WHAT MAKES THE "ULTIMATE RIG"??????

have you seen the new Cobra with the built in bluetooth? You can talk on your phone through the CB and take advantage of your noice cancelling mic.. very cool.. I think I might try one out.


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Post by: Thunda on August 03, 2008, 06:53:11 PM
Max, hey it's Thor, Jon's bro. I just started going through your thread on the build today. nice project. Do you have some sort of list of decisions that have been made? Are you going with the warn power plant? let me know when it comes to the winchline etc. I'd go with a short 3/8" x 80'or 90' winchline and carry a winchline extension.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 03, 2008, 08:16:47 PM
Okay, let me see if I can get caught up on things.....  Chris I'm totally thinking MP3, or IPOD through an amp with no head unit.  On the GPS I'm thinkin hand held with color display.  Paul the CB with bluetooth WOW that sounds cool. I'm gonna have to look into that.  NOW let me catch everyone up on winches!!!!

On friday my Warn rep Brian Sleicher stopped with John McCalla the CEO/PRESIDENT of Warn Industries.  To my suprise Warn donated the POWERPLANT WINCH  (since it was what everyone suggested) and gave a HUGE discount on a Warn M8000 winch  for the rear of the rig!!!!   

Warn not only sells winches but, industial winches, locking hubs, bumpers, air compressors, recovery straps, snatch blocks, and ATV winches.  Warn's premier products and superior customer service are just a couple reasons why all of MOAB OFFROAD'S vehicles showcase their product.

Me, Jeremy, Brian Sleicher, and John McCalla

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Post by: 3j7 on August 03, 2008, 08:47:58 PM
Nice!!  I love my warn, have been beating on it for 6 years now and it takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'!!  Thanks to Warn for knicking in on a killer project!


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 04, 2008, 08:43:32 AM
HOLY SHIZZ MANIZZ ! 

  I know that WARN will be the ONLY winch on my JeePs & ATV's.  ;D

 Good deal Max ! That is awesome news ! A HUGH THANKS to WARN !

NOW you can sell me that Powerplant you have on the wall for $500.  :o  ;D 


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Post by: Paul on August 04, 2008, 02:04:39 PM
Oh yeah,, you guys suck.. I want some free stuff!

Heres a link to the Bluetooth Cobra

http://www.cobra.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=419&category_ID=30 (http://www.cobra.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=419&category_ID=30)


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Post by: BIG85JEEP on August 04, 2008, 02:20:38 PM
For a GPS go with the Lowrance Global Map 540C  Hard mount it in the dash and forget about it.  We are wheelers, not hikers, it doesn't need to come out of the Jeep.

For rock lights look at http://www.visionxusa.com/LED/tantrum/

The Tantrum lights are LED and have the cool disco feature and will even pulsate with the bass from the kickin' stereo that you are going to put in it.

For stereo I'd lean toward the Alpine or one of the like that the iPod plugs in through the bottom plug, not the headphone jack.  This way you can put the iPod in the glove box out of the elements and it stays charged.

I like this dash but I may be partial...


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Post by: BIG85JEEP on August 04, 2008, 02:24:15 PM
By the way, AWESOME donation from Warn.  I run a Warn on my rig and it has never let me down.  Great product and apparently great people.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 04, 2008, 07:29:00 PM
DISCO feature ?  :o  ::)  ::)

GPS ?  :o  ::)  ::)

Jeff you been smokin that Utah air too much.

I'll double the vote for an Alpine unit though. The tunes in the Scramburban come from Alpine equipment.

Disco,,,,,,,,, you have lost it boy.  :o  ;D


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 04, 2008, 07:56:21 PM
By the way, AWESOME donation from Warn.  I run a Warn on my rig and it has never let me down.  Great product and apparently great people.

It was a big suprise to me too.  I can't thank Brian and John enough for the donation and discount.  Things like that make this build alot easier and starts to make YOUR DREAMS A REALITY!!!!!  SO KEEP BUILDING!!!

Okay lets get back on track and focus on just GPS and interior/rock lights.  We'll get into CB and tunes later.  Big85 I'm down with the link to the "disco lights" that is Fun and Functional!!!! what does everyone else think???  And for GPS I'm gonna need more input.  I think that the lowrance is a top of the line unit.  But what about for geocaching that Jeremy and I are starting for you all to get FREE stuff next year????  Then maybe a hand held will be what you need to find what we've hidden off the trail???  Wait did I mention a little too much info about next year??  OOPS the cat is out of the bag and maybe we've been hiding stuff ALL this year??? HMM... Anyhoo what does everyone else think about hand held GPS or hard mount?


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Post by: Snowyota on August 04, 2008, 09:49:15 PM
Hey Bad Hair day

The magellan crossover is the bomb. I have a couple freinds that have them and they totally love em. The nice thing is that they are very portable!!!!

Just me .02 cents.

Brother from a northern mother.



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Post by: "Benny D" on August 05, 2008, 12:31:30 PM
I don't know about you guys - - but I hate driving down the trail and having a bunch of crap bouncin' around the cab of the jeep (cb mics/hand held gps/ cell phone, your other beer thats not in your hand...) I think it would be awesome if you could do a custom dash or at least a little modified - - so you could have an in dash gps with your cb mounted in the dash like your cd player.  How bad do you really need that glove box any ways???  Just my 2 pennies!


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Post by: peej23 on August 05, 2008, 12:43:42 PM
was thinking of putting welder in the bed somewhere somehow, all the other tools will be back there anyway


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Post by: BIG85JEEP on August 05, 2008, 07:18:05 PM
DISCO feature ?  :o  ::)  ::)

GPS ?  :o  ::)  ::)

Jeff you been smokin that Utah air too much.

I'll double the vote for an Alpine unit though. The tunes in the Scramburban come from Alpine equipment.

Disco,,,,,,,,, you have lost it boy.  :o  ;D

The Disco feature is right on!!! Come to the Summer picnic and check them out the CJ!


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Post by: skipfierce on August 06, 2008, 06:00:19 AM
DISCO feature ?  :o  ::)  ::)

GPS ?  :o  ::)  ::)

Jeff you been smokin that Utah air too much.

I'll double the vote for an Alpine unit though. The tunes in the Scramburban come from Alpine equipment.

Disco,,,,,,,,, you have lost it boy.  :o  ;D

The Disco feature is right on!!! Come to the Summer picnic and check them out the CJ!

When did you put some in your CJ? Same kind Doug had?


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Post by: BIG85JEEP on August 06, 2008, 03:07:39 PM
When did you put some in your CJ? Same kind Doug had?

Yup.  Hoping to get them on this week


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 06, 2008, 09:38:17 PM
okay doug, skip, chipmonk, nick, Q-sheezy and a few other degenerates stopped by the shop tues. night after the club meeting and saw a few goodies that showed up.  I'll post pics tomorrow.  Sorry I haven't been on here the last couple days...  Since Jeremys wreck I've been scrambling to get another engine in the red jeep for the IFWA summer Camp-n-trailride.  Just drove the jeep home with some 40's on it, and the used engine sounds okay.

-Max


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on August 07, 2008, 01:11:26 PM
Max has been slammed in the shop so I'll post some pictures for him,

Again Thanks to CURRIE ENTERPRISE for their continued support.
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These Look awfully porus   ???
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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on August 07, 2008, 05:15:19 PM
Thanks again to Premier Power Welder  We recieved some goodies   ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: "Benny D" on August 10, 2008, 09:13:26 PM
Its starting to look like Christmas around there!!!


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 12, 2008, 07:24:10 PM
WOW!!!!!!  So let me see if I can get everyone caught up.  I was planning on riding with Jeremy for the rest of the year so that I could start on this build..... However since he totaled his jeep recently I had to scramble to get another engine in my CJ to replace the one that had a rod knocking.  $300.00, a used chev. 350, a couple bud lights, and 3 nights till midnight last week and I made it to the IFWADA summer campout-n-trailride in French Lick IN with a used engine that burns ALOT of oil (no knocking noise thank god).  Now scrambling to do a little mud maintenance and clean-up for the K&I summer picnic.  Hope that catches everyone up!!!!  It has been alot like X-MAS around the shop as you all can see by the pics that Jeremy posted.  I got some 40" MTR's, Premier Power Welder, Currie Knuckles, Currie 35 spline drive flanges, Wilwood rear disc brake upgrade, (for the 40's) AND HE LET YOU ALL IN ON A CURRIE ROCK JOCK 60  FOR MY TJ. (keep checking the TJ section for a write up on 1 tons in my TJ)!!!!


was thinking of putting welder in the bed somewhere somehow, all the other tools will be back there anyway

Back to the subjects at hand.  The welder placement we'll have to cover when the build starts.  Now on the rock/interior lights I'm thinking that the L.E.D. disco ones look fun and functional.  The GPS..... still torn I love the Garmin legend that I've had for years.  However a bigger color screen sounds sweet and since I already have a hand held.....  Maybe hard mounting a Lowrance is the key.  What is everyone's take on the GPS thing??? then lets get to CB's.


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Post by: txbear607 on August 14, 2008, 01:20:55 PM
full color screen hard mounted with held held in storage box


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Post by: BIG85JEEP on August 14, 2008, 02:43:54 PM
full color screen hard mounted with held held in storage box


I second the motion.   Wait till you check out the Tantrum Lights....even cooler after a few BL's!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 14, 2008, 03:19:19 PM
full color screen hard mounted with held held in storage box


glad to see ya back on here barry!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 14, 2008, 05:53:17 PM
Okay so if we hard mount a color GPS the who's do we use??  You all are building this...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: txbear607 on August 15, 2008, 11:29:53 AM
I like Magellan or Garmin.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on August 15, 2008, 01:01:56 PM
I say do the Crossover.  I think it looks great.
Jeremy


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Post by: samb. on August 16, 2008, 02:03:31 AM
i vote for a good map

but seriously id pick up a magellan (uncle has one and i use it more than the does its pretty cool)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on August 18, 2008, 07:15:06 AM
Looks like this is bigger than we thought, someone appears to be copy Catting us...
http://www.powerblocktv.com/sites/xtreme/episodes/index.php?ep_num=XT2008-22&ep_sea=0802


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Post by: peej23 on August 18, 2008, 08:06:54 AM
i actually saw the episode this week where they introduced it yesterday - they are putting a 7 hardtop on it - gay -

i don't think you will have any problems making yours cooler than theirs anyway - the fab work that comes out of that shop is amateur and lacks ideation, on top of that everything they build is 15' tall

I think you all will be good


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 18, 2008, 08:50:02 AM
Looks pretty gay with a CJ-7 top on it.  ::) Must be saving the back for a tool box ?

 Let's hope they don't cut the tail off !  :o  >:( 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 18, 2008, 03:42:51 PM
OHHH WELL... Our project sure is getting one heck of a parts list together.  Check out what Jon and Thor from Viking Offroad  sent.
Syn. winchlines for both winches.
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This is their new Splicing Kit that comes with instructions!!!
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This is their aluminum fair lead.
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Check out this new Spotter Rope!!!
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Thanks again to Viking Offroad these products were DONATED to support YOUR BUILD!!!!


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 18, 2008, 03:51:25 PM
Okay another suprise showed up today......  These are custom hand made CURRIE wheel center caps for my walker evans beadlocks.  John Currie made these for some of their custom personal builds and wanted our build to have some.  WOW these arn't even for sell to the public...  I can't thank CURRIE enough for all that they have donated!!!!

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Post by: 3j7 on August 18, 2008, 07:18:09 PM
Lets get to the cuttin'!!! ;D ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 19, 2008, 04:23:26 PM
DANG FINE goodies there Maxwell !  Gezzz I'll trade ya a slab of Ribs for them caps.  :o  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 19, 2008, 07:59:56 PM
Okay back to lights.......  After seeing the "disco lights" at the K&I summer picnic last weekend on Big85jeep's rig I'm sold.  They come with a remote, do tons of diff. options, ohh yeah and can be used as rock lights.  Now so I take it everyone is saying hard mount on the GPS and I personally like Lowrance, and the Crossover.    Who is running what and why???  Do a little research on what our vendor's offer... Who know's you might be shopping for the same thing someday.  Maybe you all arn't running a GPS?  Does that mean you never get lost?  Maybe you never wheel "new" spots?  Maybe your not sure what GPS is....  GOOGLE!!!  This should be fun.  SOMEONE FIGURE THIS OUT ITS YOUR BUILD!!!  Sometimes I feel like I can't stress that enough.

-Max


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 20, 2008, 03:32:30 PM
OK,OK,OK,enough with all this take your eyes off the trail and crash crap,,,,errrr in cab accessories.  ::)

 Let's talk HORSEPOWER !!!  I KNOW you have a BIG BLOCK and a small block setting out there. WHY mess around with them heavy a$$ cast boat anchors when you could build an LS1 ???  :o  ;D

 Move it back & down a tad to lower your center of gravity ? Bolt that puppy up and motor on. It's a no-brainer to me,,,,350hp on regular pump gas.  ;D  ;D GOBS of low end torque, Fuel Injected, buy parts at any GM dealer/NAPA store, way lighter than the others, better heat dispersion, ect,,,,, The list of reasons why is endless.

 I say it's how you should roll,,,, Everybody in the industry is using LS1's. There is a reason for that. It will look pimp with those CURRIE parts as well as the Robbie Gordon wheels.

 Gear it right so you can pull wheelies up the Lil Rubicon.  ;D  :o  ;D

 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 21, 2008, 05:58:53 AM
OK,OK,OK,enough with all this take your eyes off the trail and crash crap,,,,errrr in cab accessories.  ::)

 Let's talk HORSEPOWER !!!  I KNOW you have a BIG BLOCK and a small block setting out there. WHY mess around with them heavy a$$ cast boat anchors when you could build an LS1 ???  :o  ;D

 Move it back & down a tad to lower your center of gravity ? Bolt that puppy up and motor on. It's a no-brainer to me,,,,350hp on regular pump gas.  ;D  ;D GOBS of low end torque, Fuel Injected, buy parts at any GM dealer/NAPA store, way lighter than the others, better heat dispersion, ect,,,,, The list of reasons why is endless.

 I say it's how you should roll,,,, Everybody in the industry is using LS1's. There is a reason for that. It will look pimp with those CURRIE parts as well as the Robbie Gordon wheels.

 Gear it right so you can pull wheelies up the Lil Rubicon.  ;D  :o  ;D

 

Okay as soon as this GPS thing is lined out we'll talk "HORSEPOWER"  and YES I do have a couple of options laying around the shop!!!  LS1 sounds cool.... and expensive.  we'll get into that next, I promise.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 21, 2008, 01:11:51 PM
I'm glad I don't have to consult a GPS to build a fire in Smokey JeeP ! Gezzz I'd NEVER get it done.  :o  ::)  Get on da skinny pedal baby,,, ;D

 Maybe "Jegs" will donate an LS1 ???  OR one of the local Chebby performance shops ???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 22, 2008, 06:04:41 AM
For a GPS go with the Lowrance Global Map 540C  Hard mount it in the dash and forget about it.  We are wheelers, not hikers, it doesn't need to come out of the Jeep.

For rock lights look at [url]http://www.visionxusa.com/LED/tantrum/[/url]

The Tantrum lights are LED and have the cool disco feature and will even pulsate with the bass from the kickin' stereo that you are going to put in it.

For stereo I'd lean toward the Alpine or one of the like that the iPod plugs in through the bottom plug, not the headphone jack.  This way you can put the iPod in the glove box out of the elements and it stays charged.

I like this dash but I may be partial...


here's one for LOWRANCE!!!!!!   anyone else have any input.  or should I decide???  this rig has to be done by EJS!!!!  We still have alot to get lined out like engine, suspension details.... you know the deal.


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Post by: 3j7 on August 23, 2008, 07:56:35 PM
  Hey Dare too be different put a FORD in it!  ::) :o         
Now, lets not get to hasty...  thats just bein' silly... ;D


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Post by: samb. on August 23, 2008, 08:14:48 PM
i used to know of a local low mileage vette LS1 for under 1K but i think it sold, but an aluminium LS1 would be SWEET

GPS i still say magellan but heck buy one of each try it and return it if you dont like it  ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 24, 2008, 02:56:35 PM

 ABronco it doesn't really have anything to do with brand loyalty or being different. It has to do with who builds what to mate up to what. Chevy IS WAY less expensive to build and makes plenty of power, but you already know that.  Ford cost at least 20% more and we won't even talk about what it costs to do an AMC. IF YOU want to donate a sweet, already built Aluminum Rousch 427 I'm sure we can get BHD to go along with it.   :o  ::)

 Know this,,,,when it gets hauled, it WILL be pulled with a Ford.  ;D 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 24, 2008, 06:46:02 PM
OKAY OKAY!!!! I guess that everyone has narrowed it down to the crossover or lowrance.  The interior and rock lights are gonna be "disco lights" hahaa lol. and the CB is still up in the air.... However I guess we could toss CB into drivetrain since everyone is starting to talk HORSEPOWER!!!!! 

1.  My junk does get pulled by ford.
2.  Chevy is less expensive to build.
3.  IF EVERYONE DECIDES FORD, CHEVY, AMC, DONATED ROUSCH 427 ;) WHATEVER I'LL DO IT!!!

Now, that that is out of the way.  I have a 350 4 bolt main block, and a 454 4 bolt main block that will all work with my TBI wiring.  I'm thinking somewhere around 400-500 HP.....  383 small block stroker, 454 with hot cam and alum. heads????  or a LS-1 with a hot cam and head work!!!  Let the engine conversation begin!!!!!!!!!! This is up to you all.  And I still think that the Cobra CB with bluetooth is cool.  My 2 cents. ;D ;D ;D

Ohh yeah I put the Wilwood 4 piston calipers and rotors on the rear axle last week. Just trying to get a jump on things.  And the Warn Powerplant showed up.

-BHD


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 24, 2008, 06:54:07 PM
  Hey Dare too be different put a FORD in it!  ::) :o         
Now, lets not get to hasty...  thats just bein' silly... ;D
LIKE I said Dare too be different everbody puts in a chevy V-8 it's too easy...LS2 Get's my vote if it has to be chevy. silly would be if i said put a flathead 6 in it.  WOW you guy's and  chevy motor's  ::)  GOT a rise out of you my job is done !!!!! 

Just for giggles I did price a LS-2 about 2 weeks ago......  Holy sh*t balls used those are $$$$$.  whoa not sure how deep my pockets are but you all are spending my money fast. lol. ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 24, 2008, 08:10:03 PM
hell if you're going dream motor might as well go big!!! LS7!!!

http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/EngineShowcase/index.jsp?engId=LS7&engine=LS7&sku=17802397&engCat=ls

dont even look for a price...you'll drop your computer...

as for the CB cobra 25 or 29 (non nightwatch) and you can't go wrong...


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 24, 2008, 08:19:59 PM
just incase you really wanna get stupid...

http://www.worldcastings.com/prods_pages/108052.htm

aluminum block with aluminum heads, 572" big block = 700hp

but only if you wanna get STOOOOOOOOPID...

lol ;D ;D


ok seriously:

a TBI or TUNED PORT if you can find a TPI set up on a 383 stroker with aluminum heads   would be plenty for that jeep...


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Post by: 3j7 on August 24, 2008, 08:31:11 PM
Yes the LS1 is expensive, but worth it...  Has anyone considered a Northstar V8 from Cadillac?  Super light and makes good power, but it might not be enough for the scrambler.
I like the big block idea, but with that it will end up on the trailer ALOT because you would have to take out a loan for the gas!!!
Hot Rod magazine did an excellent camparison of a lot of the gm crate engines, from the 5.3  ( which is a great engine, I might add ) up to their 700 horse 572.
Come to think of it, I like the 5.3.  Everyone makes swap parts for it now, and you can pick them up dirt cheap (I saw a 5.3/4l60e combo at a swap meet for $1000 with low miles) and with a few simple mods can get into the 400-500 horse range. 
Sorry Max didn't mean to add another option to the great debate... ;D


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 24, 2008, 09:07:17 PM
Yes the LS1 is expensive, but worth it...  Has anyone considered a Northstar V8 from Cadillac?  Super light and makes good power, but it might not be enough for the scrambler.
I like the big block idea, but with that it will end up on the trailer ALOT because you would have to take out a loan for the gas!!!
Hot Rod magazine did an excellent camparison of a lot of the gm crate engines, from the 5.3  ( which is a great engine, I might add ) up to their 700 horse 572.
Come to think of it, I like the 5.3.  Everyone makes swap parts for it now, and you can pick them up dirt cheap (I saw a 5.3/4l60e combo at a swap meet for $1000 with low miles) and with a few simple mods can get into the 400-500 horse range. 
Sorry Max didn't mean to add another option to the great debate... ;D

I love the Northstar and the Shortstar (300lb. 300hp V6)  light weight and powerful.  Like the 430Lb. LS-1


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 25, 2008, 03:56:33 AM
Gm sells a crate north star v8, I think its 4.4l and makes 415hp.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 25, 2008, 10:19:05 AM
Gm sells a crate north star v8, I think its 4.4l and makes 415hp.

 How much $$$ ?  $5000 ?  :o 

  I vote LS1,,,,light, plenty of power and easy to get parts for. PLUS how cool does the top cover look ?  Somebody post a picture of one.  ;D


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 25, 2008, 11:02:25 AM
I'm pretty sure you can get the corvette top cover for any of the LS motors


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 25, 2008, 11:06:19 AM
I'm pretty sure you can get the corvette top cover for any of the LS motors

 Yep, you can.  ;)


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Post by: txbear607 on August 25, 2008, 05:22:43 PM
hell if you're going dream motor might as well go big!!! LS7!!!

[url]http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/EngineShowcase/index.jsp?engId=LS7&engine=LS7&sku=17802397&engCat=ls[/url]

dont even look for a price...you'll drop your computer...

as for the CB cobra 25 or 29 (non nightwatch) and you can't go wrong...



I am a simple man go with cobra 19.  Good price good quality good size


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Post by: txbear607 on August 25, 2008, 05:26:20 PM
hell if you're going dream motor might as well go big!!! LS7!!!

http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/EngineShowcase/index.jsp?engId=LS7&engine=LS7&sku=17802397&engCat=ls

dont even look for a price...you'll drop your computer...

as for the CB cobra 25 or 29 (non nightwatch) and you can't go wrong...
 
 
hell if you're going dream motor might as well go big!!! LS7!!!

[url]http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/EngineShowcase/index.jsp?engId=LS7&engine=LS7&sku=17802397&engCat=ls[/url]

dont even look for a price...you'll drop your computer...

as for the CB cobra 25 or 29 (non nightwatch) and you can't go wrong...



I am a simple man go with cobra 19.  Good price good quality good size


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Post by: txbear607 on August 25, 2008, 05:29:39 PM
Motor wise have any body thought of may a 6.6 Duramax? This engine has great low end torque.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 25, 2008, 05:37:17 PM
Motor wise have any body thought of may a 6.6 Duramax? This engine has great low end torque.

and only weigh 1200 lbs...

cummins 4BT if you go diesel...


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 25, 2008, 05:40:37 PM
Motor wise have any body thought of may a 6.6 Duramax? This engine has great low end torque.

and only weigh 1200 lbs...

 What he said.  ;)  Hard to beat the sounds of a small block.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: txbear607 on August 25, 2008, 05:41:53 PM
Motor wise have any body thought of may a 6.6 Duramax? This engine has great low end torque.

and only weigh 1200 lbs...

cummins 4BT if you go diesel...

I like a heavy front end.  Keeps head over tails rollover less likely.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 25, 2008, 07:32:52 PM
whoa..... we're gonna stay with gas, my tow rig is diesel.    come awn now. go easy on me.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 26, 2008, 12:31:28 PM
Fuel injected Dodge 360 would be sweet too but for all practical purposes the LS1 has them all beat.

 ABronco the frt end being heavy is great,,,, as long as you are going up hill. Going down a steep hill that bad boy would be tryin to endo head first.  :o  ;)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 26, 2008, 06:23:23 PM
new hemi:
5.7L = ~350hp
6.1L = ~425hp


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on August 26, 2008, 07:52:45 PM
2 Things,
LS1!

AND

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g190/tattoedream/Motivational%20Posters/cowbell.jpg)


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Post by: skipfierce on August 27, 2008, 07:47:58 AM
Great idea Jeremy! You could mount it on the cage for easy access.  ;D When going through a particularly difficult obstacle the co-pilot would have to keep time with it.  :P    I suggest the LP Rock Ridge Rider. I have been using this model for years.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/8/6/1/252861.jpg)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 27, 2008, 04:57:56 PM
COWBELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!  Hemi sounds cool but a little expensive still on the used side.  GPS... no one said.  So I'm still researching crossover/lowrance??  I've been doing a little research on LS-1's and I got a friend with some LQ9 truck heads and a hot cam for a LS-1 and found a LS-1 with 74,000 mi. on it in a price range that I can afford....  But sounds like its still in the air.  I love the north/short star engines but even used their still $$$$. 


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 27, 2008, 05:13:06 PM
ls1 and crossover


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 28, 2008, 05:46:38 AM
okay I've heard LS-1 alot is that what we're doing??? Because I got a line on one RIGHT NOW!  let me know?  maybe I can get it before the weekend.

-MAX


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 28, 2008, 06:01:09 AM
LS1!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post by: skipfierce on August 28, 2008, 08:27:01 AM
LS1


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Post by: 3j7 on August 28, 2008, 12:42:25 PM
Definitely LS1...


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on August 28, 2008, 02:33:35 PM
WHOA!!!

I knew Max had been talking to a guy about an LS1, I don't even know where I missed it coming in at? Then all of a sudden I stumble back through the shop and had to run back up front to grab my camera look at this whooeeyy.....WTH!!!
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(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/redrocket017.jpg)
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GUESS YOU GUYS GOT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR!!

I know Max is getting excited about all the things that have been donated to this project, and by those of you that have kept your input up in this build.  Excited enough that he cashed in his savings on that engine.  Keep up the encouragement and the great Ideas guys, it is really fun watching him contemplate your ideas at each turn.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 28, 2008, 05:16:42 PM
mmmm...aluminum HORSEPOWER!!!


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 28, 2008, 05:18:16 PM
wait a sec...aluminum motor, aluminum axles, possibly aluminum tranny? should have gotten an aluminum BODY to match...jeez what were we thinkin'?


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Post by: NickB on August 28, 2008, 05:42:57 PM
good choice with the ls1. I approve


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 28, 2008, 06:21:55 PM
wait a sec...aluminum motor, aluminum axles, possibly aluminum tranny? should have gotten an aluminum BODY to match...jeez what were we thinkin'?

I'm going broke here.... alum. tub isn't in the budget this year.... hmm. unless one got donated....... maybe I should make a call to Aqualu for a tub.  Lightweight horsepower! Now we're talkin'  You guys are starting to figure it out ;D ;D ;D  The LS-1 should be very intersting.  What are we gonna talk about next??? I'm leavin tranny up to me and I'm still undecided.... t-case is a 4.3 Atlas....  SUSPENSION???


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 28, 2008, 06:23:40 PM
LS1  ;D  Got to love it.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on August 28, 2008, 06:31:56 PM
running 40's? right? some sort of "high line" type tube fenders. 2.5" coils, radius arm front, dbl triangulated rear, coilovers, and ff and rr antirocks? and just to keep the theme up, aluminum links of course...


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Post by: 3j7 on August 28, 2008, 08:15:17 PM
How bout transverse mounted leaf springs like the old buggies? ( I mean like 1800's buggies... ;D)
You have to run aluminum links on this thing now, since everything else is light weight... 
Of course go low as you can on the suspension, and low maintenance.  I like the triangulated 4 link rear (choose your spring-coil or coilover or 1/4 elliptical)  but how nuts do you want to go in the front?
for simplicity sake in the front I would say go with a tj type long arm setup (y links on both side with a track bar) and once again choose your spring... 
For packaging's sake nothing beats a coilover just for ease of mounting and adjustability.
So I say 4 link rear with coilovers and 5 link long arm with coilovers in the front.
(whew!)


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Post by: wareagle83 on August 28, 2008, 09:47:42 PM
Leaf springs, with a shackle lift.  ;D  Ryan Siebert may be able to help with this.  I believe he has saved his old shackle lift from his first YJ after all these years.


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Post by: skipfierce on August 29, 2008, 06:25:16 AM
Nice engine!


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 29, 2008, 06:39:42 AM
good choice with the ls1. I approve

Where u been hiding???  Going wheelin with some peeps at the gorge this weekend. u down?


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 29, 2008, 06:52:57 AM
Okay to settle this once and for all my rear Currie Rock Jock 60 is 40 spline and this IS what that looks like.....

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They have been 40 spline for the last 4 yrs.  Just thought I would clear that up for a couple people.  ;D ;D ;D lol.  I took these pics last week when I installed the rear Wilwood kit from Currie.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/tobefiled184.jpg)

Sorry the pics are a little fuzzy but that is 1 3/4"

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Post by: wareagle83 on August 29, 2008, 11:35:21 AM
Sweet brake setup Max  ;D   Took a look at Lowrance's XOG road-trail-water crossover navigator.  It has a digital media slot to load up MP3 files and JPEG pictures.  Would be cool to load up a bunch of shots from the buildup and to always have them handy on the GPS while on the trail or at events.  It also downloads topo maps and sattelite imagery/aerial photos.  Probably be great for defining trail boundaries and private property. Saw it anywhere from $212 to $259.


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Post by: rsiebert7 on August 29, 2008, 02:09:41 PM
How could you ever doubt 40 spline shafts? I'm pretty sure they never broke, that could be a hint, or just the ridiculus rock jock housing.  I agree with mike on the shackle lift, but i would probably use some stronger 1 ton leef springs off the back of a dually or something.  Maybe remove a leaf or two to free up some mad flex!!!! Just my two cents, or maybe its just one.  Still cruisin around on a coat hanger, but it seems to be workin better than factory!!!!  Bad ass!


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Post by: NickB on August 30, 2008, 10:25:00 AM
how bout one leaf spring? very flexy


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Post by: Skinny Cook on August 30, 2008, 11:03:36 AM
Buggy leafs are super flexy but will wear out too fast. Besides doesn't Max plan to make this a dual purpose vehicle,,,,street & trail ?

  Coilovers, links, & Currie Antirocks @ both ends.  ;)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 02, 2008, 06:22:22 PM
Okay I'm diggin on the alum. links idea (lightweight and strong). Now what type of joints??? Heim, Jonny Joints, Super flex????? let's talk steel/alum. for links. and what type of flex joints at the end of the links?  Let's keep this thing rolling so I can get started on it.......   ;D ;D ;D

-max

ohh yeah the premier power welder 175amp alt. showed up for the LS-1 today.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 02, 2008, 06:26:35 PM
running 40's? right? some sort of "high line" type tube fenders. 2.5" coils, radius arm front, dbl triangulated rear, coilovers, and ff and rr antirocks? and just to keep the theme up, aluminum links of course...


this is the quote I was looking for..


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 04, 2008, 04:28:16 AM
rubber in the short upper radius arm, for vibration resistance. currie joints or rubicon superflex joints on the lower long arm portion. either of the "Flex" joints on all four rear arms. Teflon lined hiems for steering and front track bar. If running solid aluminum arms, drill an tap ends to accept rod ends with jam nuts, no tube adapters. Anti rocks front and rear with teh Aluminum arms (Theme). I wonder if you could get the suspension arms anodized some wild color? what color you painting the Jeep?


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Post by: peej23 on September 04, 2008, 12:27:11 PM
max I like the idea of 7075 links - I am getting some for my lowers as well
I personally like rods ends on all ends - there is nothing wrong with the flex joints either, they are kinda bulky though, either way, both parts are something you plan to replace/rebuild


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 04, 2008, 07:04:29 PM
max I like the idea of 7075 links - I am getting some for my lowers as well
I personally like rods ends on all ends - there is nothing wrong with the flex joints either, they are kinda bulky though, either way, both parts are something you plan to replace/rebuild

I'm diggin on the 7075 Alum. for arms I also like the flex joints (yes their bulky) I have the room for them and their greasable and rebuildable unlike most Heim joints.  For driving on the street I think that the poly bushing will "give" a little more and ride smoother.  It really is funny how this project is panning out.  If you all asked the guys last winter what I was building it would have been a linked rig with 40 PLUS tires and a big block with 500-600 HP. (gitterdonerig)  Now it's shaping into a lesser HP, lighter, more upto date, rig that should be able to handle all types of terrain....  I'm getting really excited to start on this thing.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 04, 2008, 08:14:16 PM
The snow is comming.  ;D


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Post by: "Benny D" on September 05, 2008, 06:56:24 AM
That engine is titts!  I say go 3 link up front - - I am loving the poly kit with 16" coilovers.  I think that radius arms are going to limit your flex compared to some of your other options.  Triangulated 4 link in the rear with 14's or 16's.  I would be interested in looking at claytons dual rear triangulated kit.  The only downside to their kit verses poly is that it does not have the adjustment on the links for anti squat. After seeing the weight difference between my dom links and lucas' aluminum links I say definately aluminum.  I think he said that he saved 70 lbs. in just links :o  I would us Jonny Joints with those as well - - strong and servicable.  The only concern I would have with the links - - is the aluminum really as strong as dom -- I've heard it is but it just seems impossible.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 05, 2008, 07:06:03 AM
Dunno if its as strong but it would seem more durable. If you bend a steel arm, its bent. If you bend the aluminum they will more then likely return to the native state, at least that's how my tie rod is desgined to work, has like 6-8in of deflection and will return to its natural position


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 05, 2008, 08:54:50 AM
I would have to agree with Blackjeep on the Radius Arm comment. I have never been a fan of those. IF something goes wrong with them, it effects alot more than one function.  :o  :(


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Post by: peej23 on September 05, 2008, 10:03:51 AM
the cars that work best, i.e. have the best handling characteristics and are the most predictable in all situations, cambers, etc., are the cars that use the same suspension design front and back. So, no 4 link rear with 3 link front, or vise versa. Take a look at anything that twisted customs builds. There is a reason they work so well. what is the steerign set up? - or I guess are you using a steering box?


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 05, 2008, 10:30:32 AM
CARS ?  :o


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Post by: skipfierce on September 05, 2008, 12:13:05 PM
Chris refers to his rig as a car. Go figure.  ???


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 05, 2008, 01:00:23 PM
Chris refers to his rig as a car. Go figure.  ???

 I'll sit on him while you guys tatt a JeeP on his arm.  ;D


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 05, 2008, 03:58:03 PM
the cars that work best, i.e. have the best handling characteristics and are the most predictable in all situations, cambers, etc., are the cars that use the same suspension design front and back. So, no 4 link rear with 3 link front, or vise versa. Take a look at anything that twisted customs builds. There is a reason they work so well. what is the steerign set up? - or I guess are you using a steering box?

Okay you all are moving right along here.... let me see if I can catch up.  Yes alum. is more forgiving than bending steel.  it will deflect some and return to its natural state.  I agree with peej23.  a matched suspension front and rear is what I would like to shoot for. and the steering is box with hydro assist for the street. unless everyone thinks full hydro??? carry on.  Got some more goodies too.... I'll post some pics soon.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 06, 2008, 09:58:12 AM
AGR with Hydro asst is my vote.  ;)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 06, 2008, 05:10:37 PM
MORE GOODIES........... Howell Engine Developments has sponsered the project by donating a LS-1 engine harness, mass air flow sensor, fuel pump, and ECU to get this thing running right.  Howell has been around since the mid 80's and has a great reputation for customer service and High-end fuel injection components.  Those are just some of the reasons that Moab Offroad has been selling/installing their products over the last 10 yrs.  I got the chance recently to meet up with Matt Howell and his father at the street rod nationals and when they heard that I was letting all of my customers build this rig they wanted to be a part of the project.  I've been running a TBI Howell kit on my red CJ for the last 5 yrs. and have had no problems with it or any of the other fuel injection conversions that we have done since using their products. I can't personally thank Matt Howell and Troy enough for donating to the build these donations will make the build come to life ALOT quicker

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/82608051.jpg)


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/82608052.jpg)


www.howellefi.com


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 06, 2008, 05:55:34 PM
WOW !  That is VERY nice Max   ;D

 Quality stuff for sure.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 06, 2008, 07:08:30 PM
if aluma-beast will see any street duty, agr or PSC with hydro assist...if strictly trailor queen/ trail only...full hydro with double ended ram, would prolly be the most cost effective. maybe you could figure out a way to run the ram behind the axle so its out of the way, wonder if those knuckles can be installed on opposite sides of the axle so the steering arms are in the back?


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 06, 2008, 07:39:34 PM
Interesting question on the knuckles Barney. I would say no unless they are a "high steer" type.

Good name Barney,,,,Aluma-beast ! I love it. ;D 

 OK Max now you have to get an Alum body for this project.  ;D


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 07, 2008, 08:36:02 AM
Aluma-Beast!!!!! that's a great name hahahahahaha Okay I'll give Aqualu a call on monday. hahaha ALUMA-BEAST LMAO!!!


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 07, 2008, 10:24:51 AM
Aluma-Beast!!!!! that's a great name hahahahahaha Okay I'll give Aqualu a call on monday. hahaha ALUMA-BEAST LMAO!!!

 I know,,,,,I love it !  GREAT NAME Barney !!  ;D


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 07, 2008, 11:23:35 AM
Lol. I really wasn't trying to name it, but ok


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Post by: peej23 on September 08, 2008, 06:12:28 AM
fully hydraulic steering is awesome, but I think you are wanting a box, I still think though that if linking it, you should really try for a matched design, I do not think that you will have an excessive amount of bumpsteer, tc's pro-mod cars used this set-up for years. i do not know whp makes the best assists set up, though you could use a double unded cylinder as your tie rod, and then also use a box with a drag link   


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 08, 2008, 06:22:14 AM
fully hydraulic steering is awesome, but I think you are wanting a box, I still think though that if linking it, you should really try for a matched design, I do not think that you will have an excessive amount of bumpsteer, tc's pro-mod cars used this set-up for years. i do not know whp makes the best assists set up, though you could use a double unded cylinder as your tie rod, and then also use a box with a drag link   


never thought of using a double ended ram as the tie rod for hydro assist. hmmmmm. interesting.  I'm hoping 4 link ft. and rear with no trac/panhard bars.


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Post by: peej23 on September 08, 2008, 08:30:37 AM
it will work sweet like that - don't listen to people tell you that you must have a panhard bar if you have a steering box with a link set-up. They are incorrect, it us no different then having leaf springs as far the amount of bumpsteer felt, or not felt


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 08, 2008, 08:48:09 AM
A4 long as you triangulate at least one set of links on the front and one set on the rear you shouldn't need a panhard or trac bar....they locate the axles side to side which is what the trangulation does for you.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 08, 2008, 01:16:08 PM
A4 long as you triangulate at least one set of links on the front and one set on the rear you shouldn't need a panhard or trac bar....they locate the axles side to side which is what the trangulation does for you.

 How does that hold the axles in line ?  IF there are Johnny joints or whatever kind of joints, they are still joints and will allow the axles to move left to right and back ?  I'm blond today so somebody paint me a picture.  ???

 Max is this not how Ralph's yellow Scram is done ? IF so it does not stay in place ?? We have talked about that before. 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 08, 2008, 07:52:15 PM
Sorry to interupt but look what just showed up......


Some tool bags from PRP

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prpseats012.jpg)

And the seats and harnesses we've been waiting for all DONATED by PRP

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prpseats001.jpg)

I went with cordura for the fabric instead of tweed.  I highly suggest that you stop by and sit in these seats and check out the attention to detail that PRP instills in their products.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prpseats004.jpg)

Here's the water pocket.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prpseats005.jpg)

this is where BIG85JEEPS gumbay smash goes hahaha.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prpseats006.jpg)

the removable seat cushion for easy cleaning.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prpseats009.jpg)

the side pocket for extra storage like wallet, cell phone, hair brush.... I don't know???

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prpseats002.jpg)

Here is PRP's new harnesses.  2" shoulder straps with padding, and 3" lap.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prpseats007.jpg)

And to top it all off some seat covers just to keep it all looking and performing great for years to come.  Please come sit in these and try them out!!  They have alot of styles and fabrics to choose from.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prpseats010.jpg)

Thanks again to Mitch, Aaron, and Kelly at PRP for sponsoring OUR build!!!!

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prplogo.jpg) (http://www.prpseats.com)














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Post by: g.schucks on September 09, 2008, 03:37:19 AM
this is where BIG85JEEPS gumbay smash goes hahaha...

LOL, I like the comment about the hair brush too. Nice looking seats Max

g.schucks


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Post by: skipfierce on September 09, 2008, 07:11:17 AM
Wow! Great score on the seats and harnesses!


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 09, 2008, 09:45:51 AM
NICE stuff Max !  I LIKE those tool bags.  ;)


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Post by: "Benny D" on September 09, 2008, 10:03:44 AM
Keep up the talk on the suspension - - if this works it would help me out alot.  I am running a 4 link rear 3 link with panhard front - - I could easily run a 4th link and lose the panhard - - I had thought about doing that to begin with but was afraid of bad steering characteristics as I daily drive my jeep and drive it to and from the trail.  What do you guys think about running a triangulated 4 link in the front with out a panhard for a Daily driver/trail rig - - which I believe Max wants to build as well.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 09, 2008, 10:39:00 AM
my uncle daily drive's a TJ with triangulated 4link front and rear with the crossover steering, he does't have any problems out of it. The ride and handling characteristics are determined by the setup of the 4 link. you need to plug the numbers into a 4link calculator or have someone that knows a good deal about suspension setups help you set it up. So long as all the numbers are right, the 4link should act right.


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Post by: txbear607 on September 09, 2008, 02:24:07 PM
Max aint lying bout those seats.  they are as comfy as my recliner at home


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Post by: High Pockets on September 09, 2008, 03:08:29 PM
 You're going to have to pry my butt out of those comfy seats....     :D


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Post by: skipfierce on September 09, 2008, 05:04:45 PM
I may come check them out tomorrow. I need to pick up those Stage 8 bolts anyway.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 09, 2008, 06:06:16 PM
 You're going to have to pry my butt out of those comfy seats....     :D

Well arn't you cute.  ;) ;) ;) ;D


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 11, 2008, 06:52:17 AM
Keep up the talk on the suspension - - if this works it would help me out alot.  I am running a 4 link rear 3 link with panhard front - - I could easily run a 4th link and lose the panhard - - I had thought about doing that to begin with but was afraid of bad steering characteristics as I daily drive my jeep and drive it to and from the trail.  What do you guys think about running a triangulated 4 link in the front with out a panhard for a Daily driver/trail rig - - which I believe Max wants to build as well.

OKAY sorry for interrupting..... lets get back to suspension so the building can begin.  Ben a 4 link ft. will work with a steering box depending on how it is set up.  Tera-flex makes a true 4 link lift kit for the TJ and it does away with both panhard bars.


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Post by: "Benny D" on September 11, 2008, 07:49:25 AM
Max - - I think that would be the way to go - - maybe not that kit but some sort of 4 link without the panhard.  I know that would help me with the axle swinging towards the driver side upon drivers side compression.  I just wonder how streetable it is with a steering box and not hydro?


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Post by: skipfierce on September 11, 2008, 11:52:54 AM
Went and saw the seats yesterday and they look even more awesome in person!


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 11, 2008, 05:03:17 PM
not a whole lot of people talking about suspension design......  is that because we're not educated enough on the subject?  I'm just wondering because I'm not hearing alot of questions about 4 link design vs. 3/5 link.  This thread should be a debate on what makes the "ultimate rig", educational, and showcase some of the "BEST" products in the offroad industry.

What I'm hearing is.... 4 link, matched front and rear with NO Trac/Panhard bars, Steering box with hydro assist for the street, (Chris the double ended ram as the tie rod idea dosen't work according to PSC because the steering ram has a real bad delayed response after going through the steering box.  however I thought it was a slick idea and called to check on it) Alum. link arms and alum. links for steering. Does this sound right or are there some questions/debating left on this subject???

 ;D BADHAIRDAY ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 11, 2008, 06:33:17 PM
Sounds about right to me Max.  ;D


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Post by: skipfierce on September 12, 2008, 06:08:24 AM
not a whole lot of people talking about suspension design......  is that because we're not educated enough on the subject

Not ashamed to admin that this would be the case for me.


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Post by: dagimp31 on September 12, 2008, 12:30:49 PM
I will say 4 link front and rear is the way to go.  Aluminm links yes,  haven't heard much about alumnium steeting links but I would say that if it is good enough for suspention than it will be just fine for the steering. 
Although I say full hydro, even for the street.  DE runs full hydro on the street and I have never heard him complain about it.  Might want to get him to weigh in on things. 
I say talk to the guys over at Howe performance and see what they have to offer for going fast with full hydro.  Look at the rigs in the XRRA, or some of the desert racers that have switched to full hydro. 
Craig


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Post by: skipfierce on September 12, 2008, 01:06:22 PM
I will say 4 link front and rear is the way to go.  Aluminm links yes,  haven't heard much about alumnium steeting links but I would say that if it is good enough for suspention than it will be just fine for the steering. 
Although I say full hydro, even for the street.  DE runs full hydro on the street and I have never heard him complain about it.  Might want to get him to weigh in on things. 
I say talk to the guys over at Howe performance and see what they have to offer for going fast with full hydro.  Look at the rigs in the XRRA, or some of the desert racers that have switched to full hydro. 
Craig

Well my brother seems to know a little about it!  :)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 12, 2008, 04:44:43 PM
i only know what i've read about. I heard that full hydro is tough to use on the street because the wheels do not like to self center. This is the reason i said IF its going to see street duty hydro assist.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 12, 2008, 06:07:35 PM
I'm not 100% sure but I think full hydro is not DOT legal ?  IF the hydro fails you are screwed,,,period. IF you run a box with hydro asst then you can still maintain control and drive away.  ;)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 12, 2008, 09:39:14 PM
I love full hydro.... but for safety on the street I think that hyro assist is key.  If this rig was all trailer queen, then full hydro.  However this is supposed to be the "ultimate rig" for ALL situations.  Street, camping, wheeling, rockcrawling, jumping sand dunes, Mall crawlin, drag racing toyotas..... you get the picture.


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Post by: 3j7 on September 12, 2008, 10:19:48 PM
I have asked DE about running full hydro on the street, cuz i thought about it for mine, and he said he didn't like it on the street.  It was to twitchy and touchy, plus the no return to center problem.  I've also read that about it a lot.  I agree with hydro assist, just make sure you order it way ahead of time! ;D


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Post by: peej23 on September 16, 2008, 06:27:29 PM
blackjeep, you will be fine moving to a 4link front, this way the axle moves directly up and down on on compression. and extension -  not left to right or side by side or in the arch of the drag link like it most likely does now. I believe that the amount of bumpsteer feedback you get will heavily depend on how the steerig is set up. I am guessing that the steering tie rod is not perfectly tuned to your drag link at this point, so redesigning the front link will probably only change the bumpsteer that you may already have. I would guess it would not worrsen it in any way.

Max - for suspension design tips, I'd say try hard for a reverse inverted 4 link both front and back. I like this design. It keep the lowers of the rocks as much as possile and it also seems to want to slide the car onto the right line in certain instances.

The reason I do not like panhard bars in the front is when climbing steep off camber climbs where the car is off campber to the frame side mount of the panhard, the car will tend to pull that opposite side tire off the ground, but is does not do this on the same car off camber the opposite way.

I am happy to answer any more questions, just don't get on the site as often as I like.

 


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Post by: "Benny D" on September 17, 2008, 11:05:50 AM
I am not trying to hyjack the thread but I know that max will run into the same thing with his build.  In a perfect world you could locate the control arms exactly where the 4 link calculator gives the best results.  However we all know that to triangulate the front you can run into alot of clearance issues.  My lowers are out as far to the end of the axle as I can go.  If I try to run a 4 link with out the panhard - - How do you know if you have achieved enough triangulation in the arms to run it without the panhard. 


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Post by: peej23 on September 17, 2008, 11:29:30 AM
you need to achieve a certain degree of triangulation. I forget what that number is. It is a calculation of degrees off 90 x2 (1 for each side)

rule of thumb is though - the more triangulation the stronger, or, in reality, tyhe easiest on the joints, and least load on the material. so the furthest sensible places outside, to the closest place you can bring them together inside.


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Post by: "Benny D" on September 18, 2008, 12:10:35 PM
Don't know for sure but I think I read somewhere that "magical" number is at least 60 degreees of triangulation to run a 4 link without a panhard.


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on September 19, 2008, 10:02:31 AM
Ben you're right.  45* min. rule of thumb.

Also wanted to let you all know Max has been extrememly busy at the shop and his power is out at home, so he just hasn't had the time to chime in and keep you all up to date.



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Post by: Nitro on September 20, 2008, 06:39:31 AM
Max
full tube frame with removable fenders & doors
v - 8 motor
4 speed with klien reduction then transfer case of choice
4 seater with best comfort seats with 5 point harness
axle to handle tire size desired
wishbone suspension with coilovers on outer corners with extreme travel
driveshafts that slip joint is all way thru the center of driveshaft - that way never comes apart

onboard welder
onboard air - can work out tube fame as air tank
tool box could be made between tube frame in rear as a box with rollout tray and store spare parts
fuel tank can be made to fit between tube frame in rear  and wrap around from left to behind rear seats to right


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 20, 2008, 07:09:47 PM
Max
full tube frame with removable fenders & doors
v - 8 motor
4 speed with klien reduction then transfer case of choice
4 seater with best comfort seats with 5 point harness
axle to handle tire size desired
wishbone suspension with coilovers on outer corners with extreme travel
driveshafts that slip joint is all way thru the center of driveshaft - that way never comes apart

onboard welder


onboard air - can work out tube fame as air tank
tool box could be made between tube frame in rear as a box with rollout tray and store spare parts
fuel tank can be made to fit between tube frame in rear  and wrap around from left to behind rear seats to right

Nitro welcome to the forum and thanks for the input.  Alot of that is already in this build.  Keep the ideas comming your input makes a difference!!!

BHD


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 23, 2008, 06:09:49 PM
GOOD GOLLY IF IT WERN'T FOR ELECTRICITY WE WOULD ALL BE LOOKING ONLINE BY CANDLE LIGHT...........  Ummmmm yeah so my power has been down at the house for a solid week and usually during the afternoons at the shop I'm too busy to get online, so I usually catch up in the dark hours with my buddy Light, and his friend Jimmy B...  With that said let me clear up a few things about where this thread is at and where it NEEDS to go.  First off I'm loving the responses/debating to four link design however right now I would love to just concentrate on the parts list so that I can get some more things ordered!!!!  We will debate everything that has to do with the "build" when we start to build.  However it is kinda hard to build without materials.  Everyone on track???  Sweet so after re-reading the last couple pages I'm thinking that Alum. is the choice for link material and a greasable/rebuildable jonny joint is the choice for end link???  Also Hydro assist is a must for street?  and staying with the light weight theme thats going on, alum. steering links?  Am I tracking the same as ALL of you???  Let me know so I can order asap!!! ;D ;D ;)


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Post by: peej23 on September 25, 2008, 07:23:38 AM
Max - I agree with you

as for alum links and steering I like: In order of preference
Campbell Ent.
Bent Metal Customs
Branik Machine

Let me know what you decide - I have no idea about john/bob/skip/bill joints and where to get them, though I know if I ever wanted them I would probably just go to moab offroad :)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 25, 2008, 05:23:39 PM
okay i'm gonna get some greasable joints ordered and some alum. comming to make links with.  anyone else have any input on this?? I'm gonna call tomorrow.


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Post by: dagimp31 on September 26, 2008, 12:43:09 PM
Are you going to have someone build the links or are you going to make the links in house.  You probably already have a hook up on aluminun but i found what seams to be a reasonably price web site for sticks.  Check out this link:

http://www.speedymetals.com/pc-2751-8369-2-rd-7075-t651-aluminum-cold-finished.aspx


May have to copy and paste? 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 28, 2008, 03:28:59 PM
Wow sorry its been a couple days i worked late on friday and saturday, then went to French Lick IN to do trail maint. for the upcomming jeep jamboree early this morning.  However to give you all an update.  I talked to Currie on friday and ordered their Jonny Joints for all of the suspension links, their 2.5" wide like the TJ suspension arms, zinc coated to cut down on rust, and greasable/rebuildable for reliability and longevity.  And Brian at Currie asked alot of questions about the suspension design and I told him that you all have decided on coilover shocks and he then suggested the Currie Anti-Rock Offroad sway bars....  Which leads me into the next topic.  Sway bars torsion style like the Anti-rock or factory style with disconnects??? You all decide.

let's talk SWAY BARS!!     ;D :D ;D


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 28, 2008, 03:31:28 PM
Are you going to have someone build the links or are you going to make the links in house.  You probably already have a hook up on aluminun but i found what seams to be a reasonably price web site for sticks.  Check out this link:

[url]http://www.speedymetals.com/pc-2751-8369-2-rd-7075-t651-aluminum-cold-finished.aspx[/url]


May have to copy and paste? 


thanks craig but I've already got some at the shop from another project that i'm gonna use.  keep the ideas comming.

max


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 28, 2008, 03:59:29 PM
"Anti-rock" would be my choice.  ;)


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on September 29, 2008, 05:13:55 AM
I would say Anti-Rock, it helps keep side hill unloading to a min.  You deff. dont want sidehill unloading, remember how many tops I've put on the ROcket? noo anti-rocks.. :'( :'( :'(

I really don't ever see the need to disconnect so why get something to mess with ANTI_ROCK


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Post by: dagimp31 on September 29, 2008, 08:56:29 AM
I have a general question about the anti-rock.  Will we need an anti-rock kit for both front and rear because of the front and rear 4 link?   ???


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on September 29, 2008, 10:44:03 AM
I have a general question about the anti-rock.  Will we need an anti-rock kit for both front and rear because of the front and rear 4 link?   ???

Need is relative, you can set up the Jeep to perform well enough offroad w/ out an anti-rock, however I think Max's goal here is to have this Jeep Perform well everywhere in which case I would assume he would want Aluminum Anti-Rocks at both the front and the rear to keep the Coil/Overs in check for the hIgher speed stuff.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 29, 2008, 04:22:10 PM
Both sounds like a great way to set the jeep up.  and if there isn't a need for one of them or both of them.  then we'll toss it in the can. lol. ;D :D ;D  and the alum. arms kinda fit the build theme.


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Post by: 3j7 on September 29, 2008, 08:10:31 PM
I would agree with the anti-rock, but there is one out there with a hub disconnect?  I would only like to see it in practice, seems like a good idea...
Oh well, I vote anti-rock. ;D


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Post by: peej23 on October 06, 2008, 12:38:46 PM
MAX, what is new with your build? Have you got any other parts in?


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Post by: "Benny D" on October 06, 2008, 03:26:42 PM
I would definatley go with the anti rock - - you could get the aluminum ones to go with everything else your doing.  I don't think I would put alot of trust in the ones made with the locking hubs - - fab tech/skyjacker - - its just more moving parts and just another thing that could go wrong.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on October 06, 2008, 07:13:10 PM
Okay still pluggin away at this project even though I haven't been on here as much as I would like to.  We're trying to hire another person so that I can Fart around more. lol. no seriously we're slammed with Trail guiding at Jeep Jamboree's for the next two weeks and then I'm taking a WEEK WHEELIN VACATION WHOOO HOOO!!!

Now that we got that out of the way.... A box from   (http://drivetrain-4you.com/Drivetrain-Brand/images/currie.gif) showed up today and to my suprise this was a FREEBIE!!!! John Currie and my sales person Brian have really helped out alot and when I called to thank them Brian said there's more coming and their excited about this build!!!  This wacky idea is starting a little bit of a buzz in the offroad industry.  These are ALL of the Johnny Joints for the suspension, Trusses for the axles for upper link mounts, and lower control arm tabs for the axles.  They also sent weld in tube adapters (in case we use steele for links) and jam nuts!!!  You can't ask for much more than that, CURRIE really has helped out alot!!!!  I wonder what else is comming??

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/CurrieJohnnyJointsandtabs1.jpg)


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Post by: 3j7 on October 06, 2008, 08:23:55 PM
I must say that Currie is the shiz bomb diggity!  Christmas in october!!


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Post by: Skinny Cook on October 07, 2008, 05:25:50 AM
WOW !  :o  ;D

 Thanks to CURRIE for all the great goodies.


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Post by: peej23 on October 07, 2008, 05:48:40 AM
That's a lot of stuff, awesome


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Post by: skipfierce on October 07, 2008, 06:02:52 AM
Score! Currie FTW!


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on October 07, 2008, 07:17:54 AM
Here's some more pics upclose.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/CurrieJohnnyJointsandtabs5.jpg)

on the left is for the upper links and the right for lowers.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/CurrieJohnnyJointsandtabs.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/CurrieJohnnyJointsandtabs2.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/CurrieJohnnyJointsandtabs3.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on October 08, 2008, 05:55:07 AM
I would definatley go with the anti rock - - you could get the aluminum ones to go with everything else your doing.  I don't think I would put alot of trust in the ones made with the locking hubs - - fab tech/skyjacker - - its just more moving parts and just another thing that could go wrong.

I agree ben the selectable sway-bars are a great product.... however for me personally I just think K.I.S.S.  KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID ;D ;D ;D

Well just to let everyone know I'm leaving tonight to TRAIL GUIDE at the Frenchlick IN Jeep Jamboree till sunday....  I'll catch up on Monday and maybe post some pics of what you missed. ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on October 14, 2008, 07:33:47 PM
MAX, what is new with your build? Have you got any other parts in?


 (http://drivetrain-4you.com/Drivetrain-Brand/images/currie.gif)[

WOW!!! Here's some anti-rock swaybars with alum. arms ft. and rear both DONATED by John Currie himself!!!!  I should call this the currie build. lol. thanks again to John Currie for all the support!
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moab91408105.jpg)

Got da bling baby!!!!! aluma beast is gettin jiggy!!!


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moab91408106.jpg)

here are the end links.


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moab91408107.jpg)

and these are the weld-on axle brackets.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moab91408108.jpg)

now that we have all of that out of the way I think that we could start talking about who's coilovers, springs, air bumps, limit straps, hmmm... am I forgeting anything that has to do with suspension???  Lets get to talking.





Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on October 15, 2008, 07:06:15 AM
Damn! Another sweet score! This is going to be one pimped ride. Can't wait to see it in action.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on October 15, 2008, 07:13:03 AM
Yes to all of the above...c/o's, one strap per axle in the center, hydro bumps.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on October 23, 2008, 07:06:47 AM
Any new news on this build? New toys show up at the shop lately?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on October 23, 2008, 07:14:54 PM
Any new news on this build? New toys show up at the shop lately?

Max is out on vacation this week, he'll be back on Monday.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on October 28, 2008, 04:06:29 PM
Okay I'm back..... however Jeremy has got me slammed at the shop... I'm gonna post some pics from my wheelin vacation sorry I've been gone for the last 1 1/2 weeks but the wheelin was worth it!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 04, 2008, 07:01:40 AM
well sorry I've been neglecting this thread for the last month but I told u that I would post pics to prove how busy I've been.

2nd week of october trail guiding at the French Lick IN Jeep Jamboree

 (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA104747.jpg)

Me messing around.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA104775.jpg)

A trail called Jeep Creek.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA104774.jpg)

Smokey Jeep trail guides too...

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA104800.jpg)


Here's our group.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA104858.jpg)

Randy's Ravine. And me doing the cabbage patch dance???

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA114894.jpg)

Super Briar gettin some hang time...

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA114976.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA114981.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA115002.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA115014.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA115051.jpg)

Well looks like ALOT of hard work dosen't it.   ;)

This is for you smokey jeep

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/PA125069.jpg)


Looks like that wraps up French Lick.

Check out the rest of the Pics in our gallery:
http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Frech%20Lick%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/









Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 04, 2008, 06:57:49 PM
HA ! Maxi I use little bitty Bass like that for bait.  :-* ;D   ;D  Let's go fish that creek again ? 

  Great pictures Max ! 

 SB was lookin good with a tire lifted. Good thing Lil Max wasn't in there. His Depends would have needed changing.  :o   ;D 

 The Sahara had some bitchin travel after you got done with the shock mods. That was some first class work.  ;) 

 The Scrambourbon was also lookin good to have sat undriven for 2 yrs.  :o  ::)  Poor JeeP will probably rust to the ground after setting another yr.   :( 

 We did have a great JeeP J this year. Thanks for all your help.   ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on November 05, 2008, 02:48:53 PM
WOW!!!!  :o Those look like Jeep Jamboree Photo Contest 1st Place quality pics!!!! What amazing photographer took those??


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 06, 2008, 06:05:57 PM
WOW!!!!  :o Those look like Jeep Jamboree Photo Contest 1st Place quality pics!!!! What amazing photographer took those??

 Some hot Cher lookin biotch with 6ft long legs is what I heard ?   :o   ;D  ;D   :-*

 GREAT pictures Kelly !!!

 BTW you know that JJUSA has a monthly website jamboree photo contest right ???   ;)  I would just about promise you that picture of Will would be a winner ?  He is the guy in the ARMY Green painted YJ. OR,,,you could submit that one of me and BHD ? They like to have JJUSA advertising in their submitted photos. Hell probably any of those would work Kelly ?  Especially that one of BHD on the toilet  :o  ;D ,,,or the JeeP Creek photo ?  Give it a try.   ;) 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 10, 2008, 08:40:00 AM
And here's the 3rd weekend of October Trail Guiding at the Gateway to the Cumberlands Jeep Jamboree...

Heading to the Commando trailhead
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation001.jpg)

Me, Dion, and Barry
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation007.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation010.jpg)

Jon from Viking offroad (This is the guy that donated ALL the syn. winchline and recovery gear to this thread!!!!)
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation011.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation015.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation021.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation029.jpg)

NOW ONTO SATURDAY... THUNDER ROAD!!! IF YOU THOUGHT THAT JEEP JAMBOREE'S WERN'T HARDCORE CHECK OUT THIS TRAIL!!!


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation031.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation038.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation041.jpg)

That's me...

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation044.jpg)

Here's Black Jeep from this forum...
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation052.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Williamsburg%20Jeep%20Jamboree%202008/MaxsVacation053.jpg)




Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 10, 2008, 09:11:35 AM
Then after being gone for 2 weeks in a row from Wed. to Sun. I thought that I would take a Wheelin vacation for a week!!!  Jon from Viking Offroad/Winchline.com that donated ALL of the syn. winchline and recovery gear came all the way out here from WA state to see what east coast wheeling is like.  Along for the ride was Bazooki Joe in his blue Suzuki Smurai, and Big Benny "D" in his Black TJ.  First off we left the Williamsburg Jeep Jam, and headed to Windrock TN...

Ben and the door we found on Rattlerock..

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation165.jpg)

Jon breaking a ft. axle in rattlerock

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation183.jpg)

Me fixing it..

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation185.jpg)

this is where I broke a tie rod in rattle rock..

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation188.jpg)


this is RATTLEROCK if you have never seen it... :o :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation246.jpg)

now onto trail 39

BAZOOKI....

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation257.jpg)

BENNY "D"

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation259.jpg)

JON

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation261.jpg)

Scoping out a line on the Rail trail..

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation277.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation280.jpg)

DIESEL DOG IS 10 MONTHS OLD NOW!!!

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation291.jpg)

So we all had to winch up this part of the rail trail go see the pics in our gallery

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation300.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation311.jpg)

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on November 10, 2008, 09:15:22 AM
looks like you guys had fun...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 10, 2008, 10:23:30 AM
looks like you guys had fun...

oh we did.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on November 10, 2008, 10:25:50 AM
Great pics!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 10, 2008, 12:52:37 PM
Well back to this thread look what else (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prplogo.jpg) has sent in for this build.

First up is a cool "Cooler Cover"
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moreprpproducts001.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moreprpproducts002.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moreprpproducts003.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moreprpproducts004.jpg)

Next is a very Cool "Impact Bag" which is designed to hold an Electric Impact, Wheel Socket, and an Extra Battery inside of a Foam encased structure to keep your tool ware protected and at the same time accessible.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moreprpproducts006.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moreprpproducts007.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moreprpproducts008.jpg)

One More tool bag, to have readily available for the old Red MangleSnake

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moreprpproducts005.jpg)

Thanks again to (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prplogo.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 10, 2008, 01:12:34 PM
Yep, best to keep your tool protected.  ;D 

VERY nice stuff from PRP. 

 Those are some sweet pics Max.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on November 10, 2008, 02:37:44 PM
Another great score!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: bairy on November 11, 2008, 07:34:38 AM

DIESEL DOG IS 10 MONTHS OLD NOW!!!

([url]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation291.jpg[/url])



Damn..He is a little bigger than I remember.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 11, 2008, 09:07:34 AM
Da B sends a hug to da Diesel D.   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on November 11, 2008, 10:23:44 AM

DIESEL DOG IS 10 MONTHS OLD NOW!!!

([url]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/2008%20Events/Maxs%20wheeling%20week/MaxsVacation291.jpg[/url])



Damn..He is a little bigger than I remember.


He's definitely a big dog. Playful fella too. When he's not sleeping.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on November 11, 2008, 01:19:30 PM
Max, that was an awesome wheelin vacation- - thanks again for asking me to go!!!  I wish we had some pics of us trying to make it back to camp from the highest mountain in harlan in the pouring rain and thick fog sliding down the mountain side and bazooka Joe in his make shift tarp top!  That was great - - scary as hell but great.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 11, 2008, 07:41:20 PM
Max, that was an awesome wheelin vacation- - thanks again for asking me to go!!!  I wish we had some pics of us trying to make it back to camp from the highest mountain in harlan in the pouring rain and thick fog sliding down the mountain side and bazooka Joe in his make shift tarp top!  That was great - - scary as hell but great.
 

There was def. a little butt pucker going on there..... :o


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 12, 2008, 07:01:34 AM
Well we got Jeremy's red rockett in the shop last night and already have the rear 60 mocked up...  So since that is the shop's first priority and that is the same spot I'm gonna use for the aluma-beast.....  I'm gonna have to get crafty and work on the things that don't take up alot of space..... like the engine.  Since I'm rebuilding a small cam and other horsepower upgrades sound like fun what do you all think stock, mild, wild??  Keep reliability in mind.

-Max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 12, 2008, 12:35:43 PM
Stock or RV.  Nothing bigger.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 12, 2008, 08:01:49 PM
k anyone else have any options???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on November 12, 2008, 08:59:25 PM
i go mild or stock cause with so much HP your gonna start putting alot of strain on parts, but what do i know i have a YJ with the little inline 6   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 13, 2008, 07:18:15 AM
i was thinking a hot cam and cleaning up the heads..... mild and reliable.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on November 13, 2008, 07:21:10 AM
I'm going the other way, build it!!
Anyone can plop a stock motor in a vehicle, but not anyone can build a bada$$ motor, however YOU can. I think you should showcase that. Plus AN fittings are cool, and you can have plenty of them on race based motor.
building a motor doesn't make you lose bottom end, it just changes the tq vs hp slope/curve on a graph - the motor will produce the torque necessary - and all of that is dependent on how you build it.
start from here
http://beckracingengines.com/performance/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=313_324_327_340
you will see that all those small blocks built a certain way don't have wild tq vs hp swings

also - its a scrambler - it won't be that light


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 13, 2008, 09:53:01 PM
Building it to be a bad a$$ motor would be great IF you were racing it BUTTT you are crawling, ect with this thing. You build it with a hot cam and it is gonna lope bad,,,,from one rock to another.  ::) 

 IF you wannna stand on the brakes constantly then build it bad a$$. Ohhh and put a 2500 RPM stall converter in it too.  That will help you out on the brakes but watch out when it hooks up. Can you spell HOLE SHOT ???   ;D  That will be fun going up those bolders.  ::)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on November 14, 2008, 06:56:47 AM
Not all hot motors lope bad, and not all that Max plans to do is crawl. and when was the last time you drove up rock anyway. I can answer for both Max and myself - it was last Friday - and most of the time neither of us were doing that at idle.

nobody said build a drag strip motor


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 14, 2008, 07:07:24 AM
Chris I been building engines longer than you were a dribble down your Dad's leg !  :P 

 YOU know as well as I do that when you start building,,, it is like a domino effect,,,,

 PLUS it takes more MONEY,,,, so unless BHD has an endless supply of cash, I would say keep it simple ! IF it breaks you can pull in a NAPA and buy parts to fix it all day long.

  What are most of the pro guys running ? Are they running built LS-1's with hot cams or mostly stock stuff ?  I am curious ? 

 OH, and NOBODY loves the sound of a twisted Chevy motor more than me.  I even tried to figure out a way to put a speaker with motor noise on Smokey JeeP.  ;D

  Hey it's just my 3cts worth.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on November 14, 2008, 08:43:32 AM
Carter I love getting you all riled up;
domino effect = yes
Max having deep pockets = hell yes
pros run all sorts of stuff from radical vw air cooled 4cl motors to some pretty hot alum v8s, depends the sport - seeing more forced induction these days honestly

I still say build it some - again not a drag strip motor - and Max is asking how would you/I/sam walton/bill gates/warren buffet would build it - not Max's wallet :)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 14, 2008, 09:00:27 AM
 :-*  I love you too buddy.  ;D

 OHHH,,, OK built with Max's money,,, OK, here is how I would build it.  ;D

   I can build motors but can't post frickin pictures !   ::) 

 

   


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 14, 2008, 09:01:02 AM
And here is the spec's,,  ;D



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 14, 2008, 09:01:43 AM
BTW that's an LS-1 motor & a twin screw blower.  ;D 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on November 14, 2008, 01:17:37 PM
and that's the perfect motor for Max!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 14, 2008, 07:52:00 PM
Starting to hate this.... I STILL HAVE A 4 BOLT MAIN 454 IN THE SHOP... CUZ DATS REALLY WHAT I WANTED....  However now I have a 2000.00 USED LS-1 you all wanted and HELL FN NO I'M NOT LEAVIN IT STOCK.... Its getting rebuilt IN HOUSE with about 400-500 HP and my pockets keep gettin shallow due to this damn thread...  ;D ;D ;D  I'm donating blood and plasma to finish this thing, however your probably gonna call this rig the stable.... cause I'm keepin alot of  ponies under the hood!!!   

Donations accepted and welcome  ;D ;D ;D

So truck heads, cam, LS-6 hot cam, throttle body, and intake?????  Keep em comming.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 14, 2008, 09:25:39 PM
Keep eatin that LIVER & ONIONS Max !  It will help make that Blood/Plasma.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 16, 2008, 04:46:05 PM
so who knows a little somethin about LS-1 engines???? any suggestions?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: txbear607 on November 17, 2008, 03:01:11 PM
so who knows a little somethin about LS-1 engines???? any suggestions?

You might try a corvette web page


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on November 17, 2008, 05:49:30 PM
150 horse spray? for when you need to clean the tires out...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 17, 2008, 07:24:58 PM
This should get you started Max.  ;D

 http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/tech/0608htp_ls1_engine_build/index.html 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 17, 2008, 07:27:07 PM
OR this,,,,,,  ;)

http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/tech/pon_0506_modern_ls1_engine_blocks/index.html


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 17, 2008, 07:33:33 PM
OR this,,,, :o

 http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/148_0311_chevrolet_ls1_engine_swap/index.html   


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on November 17, 2008, 07:34:05 PM
That should keep you reading for a few days.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 20, 2008, 07:47:25 PM
okay read all of those links.  thanks carter.  I've been researching ls-1's alot and i'm thinking a GM ZO6 hot cam, Intake, throttle body and headers.... I'm leaving the rotating assem. stock since it can handle alot of ponies.  I took the factory harness off the LS-1 tonight to look the beast in its eyes...... I got scared and put a fender cover over it....  More updates tomorrow.

Anyone going to WILD TURKEY WEDNESDAY????? it's in the general section.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 21, 2008, 07:01:07 PM
So what about spraying this damn thing with ohhh I don't know a hunny shot??  Here's a good link on the ZO6 hot cam from GMPP.  adds 49 dyno HP... hmmm easy upgrade.  49 extra ponies for 400.00 sounds cheap to me.


http://www.carcraft.com/howto/ls1_engine_cam_install/index.html (http://www.carcraft.com/howto/ls1_engine_cam_install/index.html)

Bought a couple of books on LS1 upgrades and rebuilding since no one is giving me any input..... ;D  just kidding I'm kinda weird about the stuff I run... I don't run anything that I don't know anything about!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;)  I know alot of random crap but LS1's arn't any of them :-[ :-\ ::) ??? ???   (nose in books ttyl)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on November 21, 2008, 07:04:35 PM
I think the plastic engine cover that says "corvette" is good for another 50hp or so....


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 21, 2008, 07:15:31 PM
WOW ls1 weight is about 400

4.3 chev. V6     425

hmmmmm just thought I would let ya know.  I'm starting to like this engine.... no big block but liking the power to weight ratio.  Kinda $$$$$ to build but I'm diggin it.  This thread is fun.  You all are really getting me with the times ;) :P :P :P

sorry back to books.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on November 21, 2008, 07:51:54 PM
Interesting.

 They are dead even @ 5000rpm's.

 I think I would look into some diff cam options. That cam makes most of it's 49hp above 5500rpm's.  That's ALOT of stupid pedal in a vehicle that sets 4ft off the ground. :o

 Find a cam that makes a ton from idle to 5000rpm's. That would be much better imho. You will still have more than you can use.

 Max have you ever driven a vehicle with an LS-1 in it ?  I'll talk to ya Wed nite.  ;)

 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 24, 2008, 04:44:14 PM
got a line on a ZO6 cam with spring, keepers, and push rods..... extra 50 ponies ;D ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on November 24, 2008, 05:08:10 PM
got a line on a ZO6 cam with spring, keepers, and push rods..... extra 50 ponies ;D ;D

  New ?? 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 24, 2008, 07:20:10 PM
not new only 20K on it and saw the vette it came out of the new cam isn't in it yet...  Drew at street n strip told me about it.  The shop that is installing it is right down the street from the shop.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 26, 2008, 05:21:05 PM
what u know about a ZO6 cam, springs, retainers, push rods, and intake??????? ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on November 27, 2008, 08:24:45 PM
what u know about a ZO6 cam, springs, retainers, push rods, and intake??????? ;D ;D ;D

 Sounds good to me IF THE price is right.

I am not fimiliar with the keepers but you might consider new on those ? 

 I was always taught to put in new Cam bearings when a diff cam was installed ?  I would look very hard at that.

 Oh,,,,and the thrust washer to ? The piece that keeps the cam from "walking" inside the bearings. I'm pretty sure that there are clearances/tolorences that need to be measured/set ? (Like a Ring& Pinion ?) ;)

 The pushrods should be just fine with only 20K on them.

 The intake should be good as well unless that motor has been run hot ?


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 27, 2008, 09:34:25 PM
price was right and since i'm rebuilding the engine cam bearings will be new i'll post pics tomorrow maybe....

gonna be cooking out, hanging out, and  drinking beer at the shop tomorrow.  we're closed but your welcome to stop by.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on November 28, 2008, 07:25:34 AM
price was right and since i'm rebuilding the engine cam bearings will be new i'll post pics tomorrow maybe....

gonna be cooking out, hanging out, and  drinking beer at the shop tomorrow.  we're closed but your welcome to stop by.

 DANG,,, wish I had known,,,it would be nice to let somebody else cook on my birthday.  ;D 

 IF I CAN drag myself out of this easy chair recliner,, I might be able to roll over there ?  I don't know,,,,I drank ALOT of wine yesterday, not to mention eating half of 4 different animals.  :o  ;D   Thanks for da invite though,,,,BTW what you grillin ?   


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on November 28, 2008, 08:40:19 AM
dawgs n burgs


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Post by: CJBilly on November 28, 2008, 09:18:05 AM
price was right and since i'm rebuilding the engine cam bearings will be new i'll post pics tomorrow maybe....

gonna be cooking out, hanging out, and  drinking beer at the shop tomorrow.  we're closed but your welcome to stop by.

I drank ALOT of wine yesterday, not to mention eating half of 4 different animals.   

Carter,

4 different animals? Hell, it can't be that hard. You can buy 3 meat weiners now- that will get you 75% of those animals...  ;D :-*


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Post by: Skinny Cook on November 29, 2008, 09:34:37 AM
HA !  I hear ya Nemo.  ;D  3 meat dogs huh ? That sounds close to the description of SPAM ?  :o  ;D

 Well I ended out the day with several bottles of Champagne and goodies from the deep sea. Let's just say that the Ocean lost alot of critters yesterday.  :o   ;D 

 I woke up at 4am in my recliner and finished off the Raspberry Cheesecake & Champagne.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 01, 2008, 08:49:56 PM
Okay so I'm looking for a sponsor on engine rebuild parts (new bearings, rings, oil pump, timing chain, gaskets, etc...)  If anyone has any ideas or knows someone let me know.  I would love to have the engine all together when Jeremy's jeep comes out of the shop. 

Also what does everyone think about me running Sway-A-Way brand coil overs and Eibach springs??? 2" dia. remote res. and what length 14" or 16"???  this is one of the last things keeping me from getting a rolling chassis started.

thanks,
Max  (BHD)


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Post by: peej23 on December 02, 2008, 07:45:40 AM
I'd like to see some Kings underneath it. 14" max for front; if not you will have a  skyscraper or you have to cut the hood up, which you might already anyway. either size will work fine in the back I like a little longer in back as this is where 75+% of your traction comes from when moving forward - nothing you don't already know.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 02, 2008, 05:29:38 PM
but why King's instead of Sway-A-Way???   Are we to assume that they are better because their a little more $$$$???  elaborate if you will please.   Chris I was thinking 16" all the way around..... I think it can happen and still look tastefull... Yes the shocks will come through the hood but I'm also not going to be as low as you...  It is kinda up in the air and you all are building it so let's talk a little more detail on shocks...  Chris this is more what your into on this build so I expect to hear alot from you  ;) ;) ;D


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Post by: peej23 on December 03, 2008, 09:28:45 AM
they are both very nice shocks - which are you a vendor for? - I assume sway a way and can get then for cheaper - I have had them both in my hands and side by side before - we can chat about that later. going back to shock length - actually gotta run - I'll get back to talk bout this a a bit
ciao


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 05, 2008, 09:47:00 AM
okay here's some pics of what's been going on since no one is talking about coilover brands....

here's some of the ZO6 corvette stuff I bought.  Cam, Valve springs and retainers, Pushrods, and Intake.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/LS1Parts006.jpg)

As you can see in this pic the LS-6 intake on the left has a flat bottom that flows more volume for more HP compared to the LS-1 intake on the right, 

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/LS1Parts007.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/LS1Parts001.jpg)

LS-6 Intake

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/LS1Parts009.jpg)

LS-1 Intake

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/LS1Parts008.jpg)



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 05, 2008, 10:13:42 AM
Now onto a small change in the Build......   AXLES!!!! Since the start of this thread my intentsions were to take everything out of the Manglesnake (red cj-7) and get more wheelbase, and a linked suspension via the help of all of you.....  However, the engine, tranny, grill, hood, etc... has all changed, now the only thing I'm using off of the Ol' Manglesnake is axles!!!!  With that in mind I've decided to keep the Manglesnake the way it is....  I'm selling my TJ to finish this build and hope to have it done by my 10 yr. Moab Offroad anniversary Sept 09.

Whew now your all up to date  Currie has a new 9" fab housing that their donating to the build IT'S NEW AND WE'RE GETTING THE FIRST SET!!!! How exciting!!! here's some secret photo's

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/fabhousing3.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/fabhousing2.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/fabhousing4.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/fabhousing1.jpg)

this is a strong/lightweight housing with less welded seams than some of the competition's 9" housings.  The rear is going to be 35 spline full float ARB and 5.13, 1350 yoak, Wilwood disc brakes, alum. center section.  The ft. is True Hi-9 ARB and 5.13, Alum. knuckles, Wilwood brakes, 35 spline inner and outer shafts.  now does this give you guys something to talk about??????????  This project is always moving forward I've just been real busy with Jeremy's build.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 05, 2008, 02:19:17 PM
Nice Currie Axle Bling Max. I'll take those old used up junky ones from Manglesnake off your hands. Can I pick them up tomorrow ?  :o  ;)  ;D

  Did you get the larger LS-6 fuel injectors as well with that intake ?  ???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 05, 2008, 02:21:42 PM
IS THAT corrosion I see along the bottom of that LS-1 intake ?  Must have run some cheap watered down fuel in that puppie ?  :o  ::)


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Post by: samb. on December 05, 2008, 05:07:34 PM
them housings are sexy, where were these when i was at the shop the other day? always hiding the cool stuff  ::)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 05, 2008, 06:20:52 PM
them housings are sexy, where were these when i was at the shop the other day? always hiding the cool stuff  ::)

  I'm guessing those are photo's from Currie ?  He doesn't have them yet.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 06, 2008, 12:06:26 AM
they are both very nice shocks - which are you a vendor for? - I assume sway a way and can get then for cheaper - I have had them both in my hands and side by side before - we can chat about that later. going back to shock length - actually gotta run - I'll get back to talk bout this a a bit
ciao

I'm a wholesase distributer for Sway-A-Way.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 06, 2008, 12:11:49 AM
Nice Currie Axle Bling Max. I'll take those old used up junky ones from Manglesnake off your hands. Can I pick them up tomorrow ?  :o  ;)  ;D

  Did you get the larger LS-6 fuel injectors as well with that intake ?  ???

inj. size is the same as LS-1 so no need. and its not corrosion good eyes but that is actually dirt.  I haven't cleaned it yet. ;D ;D ;D

and to let ya know the 9" housings are about the same weight as the rock jocks.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 06, 2008, 12:13:51 AM
them housings are sexy, where were these when i was at the shop the other day? always hiding the cool stuff  ::)

  I'm guessing those are photo's from Currie ?  He doesn't have them yet.  ;)

Yep those are prototype, spy, secret, shhhhhh don't tell photos that will be at the shop around mid jan.........


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Post by: "Benny D" on December 08, 2008, 11:29:25 AM
Max here are a couple ls powered jeeps for you - - pretty scary :o 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5TF4tSmPmA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLHo2yyQVzI


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Post by: High Pockets on December 08, 2008, 06:05:57 PM
Max here are a couple ls powered jeeps for you - - pretty scary :o 

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5TF4tSmPmA[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLHo2yyQVzI[/url]


DAAAAANNNNNGGGGGGGGGG.......  :o :o :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvFumxCDpVo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9EG0TgZhJY


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 08, 2008, 06:13:34 PM
ohhhhhh yeah, you all arn't ready fo dissssssssssssss!!!!!!!  I'm telling you we're gonna call the engine area the "STABLE"...... CAUSE THATS WHERE THE PONIES ARE AT!!!


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 08, 2008, 06:21:46 PM
Somewhere the statement,,,"hold my beer and watch this" is going to have a new meaning.  :o   ::)   ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 08, 2008, 07:14:46 PM
Somewhere the statement,,,"hold my beer and watch this" is going to have a new meaning.  :o   ::)   ;)

you're damn straight!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

not much talk on here lately....  I thought the axle stuff would get some play...  I got $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ burrnin a hole in my pocket for some coil overs  :o :o  let's get this figured out!!!!!  I've got to get started on this!!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 08, 2008, 07:22:13 PM
Somewhere the statement,,,"hold my beer and watch this" is going to have a new meaning.  :o   ::)   ;)

you're damn straight!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

 Best be planning to add on some rubber baby buggy bumpers then.  :o   ;D 


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Post by: peej23 on December 09, 2008, 11:00:01 AM
I think that since you are a dealer for sway a way you should look for a 2.5" diameter rr shock - and add springs to it. A 2.5 inch diameter shock is goign to give you more surface area in turn creating volume which leads to a coler better performning shock. Also a larger shock/spring can do more work at a lesser rate than a smaller shock. So ideally you want to build the shock with the lowest spring rate and nitrogen charge that doesn't allow that car to sway and doesn't allow the shock to unload heavily and quickly causing adverse effects to the car. This is why I choose 2.5" dia shocks for mine - basically because I can run very little mitrogen charge to hold the car up - though it is an air shock which works somewhat differently than a emulsion/rr shock - the principle is still underlying. So big shock that doesn't work as hard, as opposed to a smaller shock. Also if you don't plan to run bypass shocks, then this is just another reason to go big on the shock.

Back to lengths - as I said I would - you and I have both seen that too much travel is in many cases a bad thing. So - I think 16s at the very very most for the front and they need to be set up with a pretty good amount of compression, so as to limit droop. When you are building a car that you want to use a rowdy motor with you want the axles to be in check so that any time you want to blip the throttle you kinda jump that stuff controled while carrying the tire. Blip the throttle with your front end extended 16 inches into a hole and turned to the side and you have now bounced to the side and lost control, as opposed to carrying the tire and taking a smaller hit. 


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Post by: High Pockets on December 09, 2008, 05:26:33 PM
Max here are a couple ls powered jeeps for you - - pretty scary :o 

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5TF4tSmPmA[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLHo2yyQVzI[/url]


Look at this, Max! ;) Check out these engines..... This video is from 11/07, so these have been completed now, but I can't find a good video about them. They've also done an F-450 and Gov Arnold's 1987 Jeep Wagoneer to name just a few cool things.... You should do your 350.  ;D 1000hp??? WHOA.  :o

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/tech/2007/11/20/callebs.pimp.my.hybrid.cnn

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/120/motorhead-messiah.html

http://biodieselreport.com/2007/04/18/biodiesel-chevy-impala-from-pimp-my-ride/#more-71

Here's a pic.... Along with a litte article from 01/08... lol. Kinda funny...  :P

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n160/Kalico13/arnold-schwarzenegger-bio.jpg)
The Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger was driving along when his bio-diesel converted Jeep Wagoneer broke-down. Arnold has to hitch a ride in the gas-guzzling SUV of his security team yesterday in Brentwood, California.



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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 09, 2008, 07:01:28 PM
They had the guy that converts those on one of the national news programs tonight. Pretty cool stuff.  ;) 


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Post by: High Pockets on December 09, 2008, 08:15:13 PM
mmmmhhhhmmmmmmmm...... Looks like we were both watching Katie Couric  :)


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Post by: NickB on December 09, 2008, 08:16:17 PM
i don't know anything about coil overs, but they look pretty :D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 09, 2008, 08:57:31 PM
I think that since you are a dealer for sway a way you should look for a 2.5" diameter rr shock - and add springs to it. A 2.5 inch diameter shock is goign to give you more surface area in turn creating volume which leads to a coler better performning shock. Also a larger shock/spring can do more work at a lesser rate than a smaller shock. So ideally you want to build the shock with the lowest spring rate and nitrogen charge that doesn't allow that car to sway and doesn't allow the shock to unload heavily and quickly causing adverse effects to the car. This is why I choose 2.5" dia shocks for mine - basically because I can run very little mitrogen charge to hold the car up - though it is an air shock which works somewhat differently than a emulsion/rr shock - the principle is still underlying. So big shock that doesn't work as hard, as opposed to a smaller shock. Also if you don't plan to run bypass shocks, then this is just another reason to go big on the shock.

Back to lengths - as I said I would - you and I have both seen that too much travel is in many cases a bad thing. So - I think 16s at the very very most for the front and they need to be set up with a pretty good amount of compression, so as to limit droop. When you are building a car that you want to use a rowdy motor with you want the axles to be in check so that any time you want to blip the throttle you kinda jump that stuff controled while carrying the tire. Blip the throttle with your front end extended 16 inches into a hole and turned to the side and you have now bounced to the side and lost control, as opposed to carrying the tire and taking a smaller hit. 

bout time we got to hear from you!!!!  I agree on the 2.5" deal less pressure/ less unloading properties to deal with...  however on the 16" for the front I'm real concerened with fitment and with a true-hi 9 in the front (meaning too much compression and oil pan to driveshaft clearance) a 14" would make things a little easier.....   or I could go low pinion 9" in the front for clearance???? 16" in the rear is no prob... what do you think? 


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 09, 2008, 09:41:29 PM
Max can you not just limit the up travel via bump stops and still use a 16" ?  That way all 4 would still be the same diameter, rate, ect. Plus you would have better cooling with a longer shock. More heat dispersion area. And last but not least, more drop reach. 


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Post by: peej23 on December 10, 2008, 07:26:56 AM
I think a high pinion makes a huge difference when trying to snake a driveshaft thru the front links, so don't do a low pinion in the front you will most likely regret it, keep the high pinion and you already know it will probably have to be a 2 piece driveshaft. for me 16s were just way too big for the front - it sounds like they already are for you and you don't even own them yet! - I sold them and bought 14s - have never regretted it

carter don't know if I agree about longer shock = more cooling - proportionally I think they will be the same  - though there is more ccs of oil there - the shock shaft is longer which means the piston will travel for greater lengths thru the oil/nitrogen mixture - this creates more energy & energy = heat

I think 14 vs 16 heat dispersion is a mute point if they both have a remote res.

Also mr button read what I said about drop reach above - more is not always better.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 10, 2008, 07:53:52 AM
HP front for strength, and 40spline rear (if currie makes it, i ahve seen 40spline 9") with the kind of power you are going to throw at these things, plus the tire size, and gear reduction i would think OVERBUILDING the rear would be a good idea.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 10, 2008, 08:20:11 AM
Overbuilding them both is going to be a wise idea Barney, but he also needs to be able to make repairs if he breaks out on the trail. Custom stuff cost's big $$$ & to have spares setting around is inventory funds/cash flow tied up. I'm not sure about size/diameter, but maybe Dana 70 or Dana 80 shafts/parts will fit into his housings ? 

Chris I read the deal about the drop. I'm still not convinced. With a 2pc frt driveshaft it may adversly effect the drive shaft slip joint length. The 2nd part of the shaft(pumpkin end)can only be so long, unless he stretches the frt end out.

 Don't know,,,I do know there are a ton of factors to look at though. I guess I need to see more ?  ???


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 10, 2008, 08:36:44 AM
I've already got the hi-9 ft. third member w/ 5.13's and ARB 35 spline inner and outers..... the rear is gonna be alum. low pinion 35 spline full float just like Shannon Campbell runs....  HMMMMM......  14" or 16" for the front and we're thinking 2.5" dia. remote res. ??????? correct?


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Post by: peej23 on December 10, 2008, 08:45:58 AM
max - yes, correct

carter - go wheelin with us outside french lick and I will show you how some things work :)

2 piece driveshafts are commonplace these days


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 10, 2008, 09:15:39 AM
max - yes, correct

carter - go wheelin with us outside french lick and I will show you how some things work :)

2 piece driveshafts are commonplace these days

 I'm sure they are Chris, like I said,,,,,I'm old school baby. Well except for Ralph's Scrambler. I love how that thing works, it's just WAY TOO WIDE for me.

 I just need sum edyamacation and I'll be up to speed.  I quit Engineerin scoo to be a Chef,,,I always figured I liked to eat better than build.  ;D   


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Post by: txbear607 on December 10, 2008, 03:24:58 PM
Now onto a small change in the Build......   AXLES!!!! Since the start of this thread my intentsions were to take everything out of the Manglesnake (red cj-7) and get more wheelbase, and a linked suspension via the help of all of you.....  However, the engine, tranny, grill, hood, etc... has all changed, now the only thing I'm using off of the Ol' Manglesnake is axles!!!!  With that in mind I've decided to keep the Manglesnake the way it is....  I'm selling my TJ to finish this build and hope to have it done by my 10 yr. Moab Offroad anniversary Sept 09.

Whew now your all up to date  Currie has a new 9" fab housing that their donating to the build IT'S NEW AND WE'RE GETTING THE FIRST SET!!!! How exciting!!! here's some secret photo's

([url]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/fabhousing3.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/fabhousing2.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/fabhousing4.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/fabhousing1.jpg[/url])

this is a strong/lightweight housing with less welded seams than some of the competition's 9" housings.  The rear is going to be 35 spline full float ARB and 5.13, 1350 yoak, Wilwood disc brakes, alum. center section.  The ft. is True Hi-9 ARB and 5.13, Alum. knuckles, Wilwood brakes, 35 spline inner and outer shafts.  now does this give you guys something to talk about??????????  This project is always moving forward I've just been real busy with Jeremy's build.


Hey Max onthe axle issue Just a thought but have you considered putting rear steering on this build.  This is something that I hope to have on a future vehicle. Would like to see the master fabricater include this feature on the ultimate rig.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 10, 2008, 04:08:55 PM
rear steer adds unneeded complications and distractions. IMO.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 10, 2008, 06:03:20 PM
rear steer adds unneeded complications and distractions. IMO.

 Besides, I don't think it would be DOT legal to drive on the street.  ;)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 10, 2008, 06:09:12 PM
i believe it is if you have a manual lock out on it...but still, more stuff to go wrong.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 10, 2008, 07:23:15 PM
Rear steer..... hahaha you all sound like Lucas that is all he's been saying from the start. ;D ;D

I never got it....  14" or 16" for the front?????


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 10, 2008, 07:24:58 PM
14" front, 16"rear


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 10, 2008, 07:35:06 PM
14" front to stay low and not have too much shock comming up through the hood???  I assume.  Or 14" to not have too much droop/compression??????  elaborate.

Also I talked to Brian at Currie today and the pics are their "narrow" center section for ft. axles which I should see mid January.  The rear is a "wider" center section for strength.  Both housings will be trussed and the knuckles gusseted (all the desert race stuff for jumping in the dunes and high speed bumps).  You can run either housing design ft. or rear I'm gonna showcase both on this rig.  The rear housing won't be out till mid feb. :( :(  But these are the latest and greatest from Currie. 


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 10, 2008, 07:52:52 PM
Sounds great on the Currie axles.  Febuary huh ?

HA ! you won't be ready for them yet anyway.  :P   ;D   ;D


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 10, 2008, 07:54:28 PM
i saw something pretty cool a while back about sharper turning by having axle shafts milled out, i dont know if currie offers anything like this but...

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r144/lt1wrangler/DSCN0619.jpg)

may be something to look into, may be awesome with the higher clearance kuckles on the fabbed nine housings...its something like 50deg of steering.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 10, 2008, 08:20:50 PM
Barney JEEP,  Nice to see this get brought up.  Currie does do 45-50 degree steering axle shafts however there 300M yoaks and cromo. shafts.  the yoaks I think are like 500.00 ea.??? Not including shafts..... doing the math thats well over 2k. I'll check tomorrow.  However we do use Branik Motorsports for machining axles for 50 deg. steering like the pic u posted.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 10, 2008, 08:24:51 PM
that is who machined those shafts...just wasnt sure about posting names/companies from another forum, you  know out of respect and all.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 10, 2008, 08:37:49 PM
that is who machined those shafts...just wasnt sure about posting names/companies from another forum, you  know out of respect and all.

Yep we use them there real nice to work with and a very high quality end result....  those are also Yukon axles and Yukon super U-joints which I'm running in my Red CJ-7  ;) ;) ;) been doing this stuff fo 9 yrs. now try stumping me on something other than wheelin' crap lol hahaha ;) ;D ;D ;D  just kidding I thought peej23 would have been the one to bring up "turning radius" but glad to see your keeping us on our toes. ;D ;D


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 10, 2008, 08:47:33 PM
i may not have been around many of the "bigger" rigs, but i do READ alot...


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 10, 2008, 08:51:39 PM
I can tell and I really appreciate your input on this build... I hope everyone is having as much fun with this as I am.


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Post by: peej23 on December 11, 2008, 06:58:31 AM
as fot your rear steer - I like it, but having a mechanical front steering system and a fully hydraulic for the rear only doesn't make much sense, also if you keep the scrambler frame it is too wide in the rear for a tire turned all the way to travel up and down (sure this is based on axle width - but be realistic).

extra turning is awesome - you can mill most aftermarket yokes and modify the housing ends to make this happen up to a certain degree, but for really tight turning like what is mentioned above you will need like 1550 u-joints which requires special axles and knuckles, etc. For a non-comp rig all this is not needed and super expensive, when in most cases you can just back-up and/or use a cutting brake


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on December 11, 2008, 08:28:58 AM
WHOA!!!  Time for me to catch up here I guess...50* steering and rear steer.  Desert jumping 9" with gussets and what now????

I'm just trying to scab some simple scrap yard axles under the little rocket........ :-\  hmmm.....

This all sounds cool,
 Rear steer....takes away the streetability (as far as DOT is concerned) 50* steering and having Branik machine the shafts VERRY  COOL!!
Desert Currie 9" AWESOME!!

Coil Overs  I like Sway a Way :
 1.- We are already distributors with them and they offer us great support
 2.- They offer a higher quality cadium finish than the competition
 3.- They use all S.S. Hardware and heims which are teflon lined is a higher qaulity than the competition
 4.- I like the red anodized ends and hardware they should match the red in the currie Axle tags
 5.- I like the black shafts - made from nitra steel, it is a harder material and lasts longer in the elements than a chrome shaft and will not chip or rust.
 6.- Over all I think that Sway-a-way is a great product.

Oh yeah and if you can do 16" all the way around with out a ridiculous amount of through the hood showing.  Thats what I would do!

Carry on with the Crazy!!


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Post by: peej23 on December 11, 2008, 08:41:38 AM
hold on there homeskillet; we said sway-a-way - nobody it dissing your shocks.

Do all their shocks have the big black shaft, or just the air shocks?


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 11, 2008, 08:52:18 AM
Umm........................


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on December 11, 2008, 10:05:40 AM
hold on there homeskillet; we said sway-a-way - nobody it dissing your shocks.

Do all their shocks have the big black shaft, or just the air shocks?

not all have them but the air shocks and the a 2" C/O's have them as well as the 2.5" C/O's


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 11, 2008, 11:21:30 AM
Homeskillet ?  :o  ;D  :o  ;D 

 Tooo funny  ;D

 


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Post by: txbear607 on December 11, 2008, 07:56:59 PM
Back to the rear steer, all the times Ive been to Black Mountain There been a group of small pickups(rangers,tacomas and s-10s) the couple with rear steer have walked all over the ones without and they are all street leagal.  For instance at the waterfall below powder puff two of the rigs both rolled on their side and didnt make it one broke an axle and u-joint, the rigs with rear steer set the line and walked fight up it without any trouble.  this is just my opinion but from what ive seen in person rear steer is the shiznick


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 11, 2008, 08:50:10 PM
hmmmmmmmm rear steer....  sounds like a hung verdict. :-\  I'm on the fence way cool idea.  way more $$$$$$, less streetable..... :-\ :-\  still not sure where I stand maybe on the "no rear steer side"  think about it...  400+ HP spinnin FO-DEEEES on the pavement in the summer. :o :o :o


homeskillet...hahahahaha chris your not right!!!  lol. ;D :D :) ;D ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 11, 2008, 08:58:25 PM
Rear steer does have a cool factor, BUTTT not for a street driven ride.  ;)

 IF it was gonna stay ONLY offroad,,,then by all means. Bring on da bling.   ;D


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Post by: Brian on December 12, 2008, 10:10:41 AM
Hi everyone, just to introduce myself, I'm Brian from Currie - generally just a lurker here, but I thought I'd participate for once!
So the rear steer is do-able, 450 inners, aluminum outers with high steer arms just like your front deal, axles with extreme duty yokes & 300M shafts, as seen here on the front of the Currie equipped Shannon Campbell KOH rig:
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/100_8312_2.jpg)
However, this is the deal we had planned to put on your rear, 450 unit bearings, custom housing ends, Wilwoods and drive flanges/hubs....sufficient?

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/UnitBearingFloater-Exploded.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/UnitBearingFloaterAssmTopclipped.jpg)
As seen in use on the rear of Shannon Campell's KOH rig....
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/100_8302_2.jpg)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 12, 2008, 10:53:14 AM
Welcome to the site Brian.  We are not worthy !  ;)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 12, 2008, 10:56:29 AM
OMG I think I just had an orgasm looking at those pictures.  :o  :o  ;D  ;D 

 That is some sweeeeeet,bitchin,awesome,knarly,kick ass looking stuff !  ;)


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Post by: Brian on December 12, 2008, 11:10:01 AM
Welcome to the site Brian.  We are not worthy !  ;)

Eh, I'm just a regular yahoo with a yard full of broken shit like everybody else, haha  But I do work in a place where I'm constantly surrounded by bitchin' stuff! :)
Thanks for the welcome!


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on December 12, 2008, 11:32:36 AM
Ok, great Brian.

Now I've got a bracket setup (think final four)

We have an intense game of
Roshambo (This form of roshambo, which can only be played by males, involves two players taking turns kicking each other's testicles. The first player to fall down in pain loses. This game is not only a form of mortification of the flesh, but as a manifestation of the groin attack, is potentially deadly) 

Getting ready to go down!!

Is Currie stepping up again or is this gonna get deadly around here?


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 12, 2008, 11:47:25 AM
Welcome to the site Brian.  We are not worthy !  ;)

Eh, I'm just a regular yahoo with a yard full of broken shit like everybody else, haha  But I do work in a place where I'm constantly surrounded by bitchin' stuff! :)
Thanks for the welcome!

 HA !  I'll be out there next October. I'll ride by and see your pile of "broken shit".  ;D

 You are also surrounded by the most beautiful scenes in this country ! That equals motivational thinking.  ;)

 Brian, don't take on Jeremy. He doesn't have any nads. Max has already won that game with him 2 or 3 times.  :o 
 He is just trying to hustle you.  :o  ;D  ;D  ;)


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on December 12, 2008, 01:21:38 PM
Oh Carter what a good one....... ;D ;D ;D

Brian,
 It is getting ugly over here...
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/tobefiled501.jpg)

after that he looked like this all blue and such......

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/tobefiled502.jpg)


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Post by: peej23 on December 12, 2008, 01:53:20 PM
rear steer is definately bitchin' - but it totally doesn't make sense to have a mechanical set-up up front (as already decided on in earlier pages of this tread) and totally hydraulic in the back.

I love my hydraulic steering btw.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 12, 2008, 02:02:00 PM
HA !   Kelly is gonna be mad now.  :o  ;D

 The BROWS done put da hurt on him.   :o  :o

  Where is the retribution photo ?   ;D


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Post by: Brian on December 12, 2008, 02:33:46 PM
I am by all means known for being an expensive friend to have in one's life. I find all kinds of cool shit for my friends to spend ALL their money on! haha ;D
And on top of that I'm an instigator....  :D
You guys should know that by now! Look around your shop/showroom! I'm a pusher for car geeks man......dangle the drug in front of you! hahaha


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 12, 2008, 06:14:09 PM
I am by all means known for being an expensive friend to have in one's life. I find all kinds of cool shit for my friends to spend ALL their money on! haha ;D
And on top of that I'm an instigator....  :D
You guys should know that by now! Look around your shop/showroom! I'm a pusher for car geeks man......dangle the drug in front of you! hahaha

EXPENSIVE..... I'll say!!!!! ;D  so here goes the thread to rear steer and you encourage it as if I can afford it :D :D :D  the whole shop is on your side now....  "rear steer, your only building this thing once, it's cheaper to do it now then later, I always wanted rear steer, that will be a good advertisement for the shop"  is what I keep hearing around here!!!!!!  I'm damn near selling myself to the night to afford this shit....NOW THEY WENT FROM ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS, TO RO-SHAM-BO MY NUTSACK... OUCH!!! BUT I'M WINNING!!! :o :o  So call me on monday and we'll talk either rear steer or 50 degree ft. steering.  :-\ :-\ :-\ lol love ya Brian

-BADHAIRDAY


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Post by: txbear607 on December 12, 2008, 06:30:19 PM
nice to meet ya Brian. you right on that one Max"You are only gonna build the ultimate rig once might as well do it all". I am a huge pusher for rear steer. Ive it it in action not only offroad but on road to.  If anyone can recall about 6 years ago the full size Chevy Silvarado with Rear steer.  My oldest brother has one and it is awsome for normal highway driving not to mention pulling trailers.  I just think if you dont do it you may possibly regret it after the rig is done and been tested.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 12, 2008, 06:39:48 PM
OK Max,,,I'm going over to Brians side.   :o  ;D   The pictures just wasted me. That rear steer is a MAJOR bling factor. Alumabeast deserves it.  Make Jeremy sell his next kid or something, but get that rear steer deal going.

IDEA,,,, Trade Brians (free) parts back to him for credit towards the rear steer parts.  :o  LOL


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Post by: Brian on December 12, 2008, 11:47:40 PM
Now now....I don't want anyone to think I'm taking sides here, haha, I'm just merely - innocently - "providing photographic evidence of available options" - right Max?  ;)
However, if the masses prefer some of the pictures provided over the others....well....I just provided the pictures, ha!  ;D  Don't shoot the messenger!  8)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 13, 2008, 09:51:34 AM
Messenger ?  HA ! 

 I would say more like a cold, calculated axle bling saleman that has strewn his euphorian dust ridden parts acrossed this build !

  Max,

 NOW that this parts pimp has us all hooked,,,he is reeling us in.  :o   ;D   ;D  ;D

 LMAO,,,sorry Brian, I couldn't resist.  ;)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 13, 2008, 09:53:15 AM
c'mon play nice...just say THANK YOU, and we are glad that you are involved in the build.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 13, 2008, 10:41:04 AM
OK Max,,,I'm going over to Brians side.   :o  ;D   The pictures just wasted me. That rear steer is a MAJOR bling factor. Alumabeast deserves it.  Make Jeremy sell his next kid or something, but get that rear steer deal going.

IDEA,,,, Trade Brians (free) parts back to him for credit towards the rear steer parts.  :o  LOL

Trade the free parts?????  I'm using ALL of them....  And now I got to buy more knuckles, shafts, U-joints, Hydro steering........ the list goes on and on.   :-\ ??? :( ;) ;D ;D

Brian, I can't thank you enough for ALL that you and Currie have done. ;D ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 13, 2008, 11:07:52 AM
It will be all good Max.  ;)

 Brian has a good heart and I know he will come thru for you. After all, he doesn't want to hear about you running naked down Bishops Ln yelling "I can't take it anymore, I have no plasma left to sell!"   :o    ;D   ;D

 Just cuts to the heart doesn't it Brian ?  ;D

 
 All joking aside, I have been a major fan/supporter of Currie for many years. I think it is awesome what Brian & the company has done helping this build.  ;)

 


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Post by: High Pockets on December 13, 2008, 02:24:10 PM
Hi Brian! I'll be nice to you! Don't worry..... I'll even send you more packages! I wanna hear the story!  ??? ;D - Kelly


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 14, 2008, 09:08:05 AM
Okay this week I'm ordering SWAY-A-WAY coil-overs in 2.5" dia. 16" long correct??  hopefully we can get started on this thing in January. ::)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 14, 2008, 10:11:04 AM
Okay this week I'm ordering SWAY-A-WAY coil-overs in 2.5" dia. 16" long correct??  hopefully we can get started on this thing in January. ::)

 After reading the info/suggestions from Chris, I'm not convinced 16" is the way to go ?  ??? 

  I KNOW somewhere there has to be some tech info/measurments/data concerning this ? Does Sway-A-Way have charts ?

 Measure 5 times, build once.  ;)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 14, 2008, 12:24:46 PM
thats the problem though, you cant measure for coil over's until you build the suspension links.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 14, 2008, 12:48:38 PM
Okay this week I'm ordering SWAY-A-WAY coil-overs in 2.5" dia. 16" long correct??  hopefully we can get started on this thing in January. ::)

 After reading the info/suggestions from Chris, I'm not convinced 16" is the way to go ?  ??? 

  I KNOW somewhere there has to be some tech info/measurments/data concerning this ? Does Sway-A-Way have charts ?

 Measure 5 times, build once.  ;)

so then 14" ft. and 16" rear???


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 14, 2008, 01:19:09 PM
thats the problem though, you cant measure for coil over's until you build the suspension links.

 Then based on that statement I would definately heed the advice from Chris. He can't cook for squat, but he is a pretty good engineer.  ;)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 14, 2008, 01:29:33 PM
Lol


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Post by: peej23 on December 15, 2008, 07:21:53 AM
as far as length I am just saying that toomuch travel is more often times than not, a bad thing. As for how that relates to shock length, that depends on vehicle and setup - for this app (smaller vehicle) I tend to think the smaller shock.

carter - first you crack me up, and second - not all chefs are big boys/girls


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 15, 2008, 07:28:51 AM
I wouldn't eat anything from a skinny chef/cook...if they don't eat what they cook, why should I? Lol


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on December 15, 2008, 08:28:19 AM
I wouldn't eat anything from a skinny chef/cook...if they don't eat what they cook, why should I? Lol

Smokey Jeep's by far got some of the best BBQ and Brisket I've ever had......


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 15, 2008, 08:42:11 AM
Sorry to hi-jack, max....mmm brisket, where would a fatboy aquire some of said brisket?


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Post by: Brian on December 15, 2008, 09:01:12 AM
Happy Monday buddy!
Just thought I'd mention too that, if you'd like, to keep with the aluminum theme, we make all of these bitchin' aluminum tie rod & drag link & panhard rod tubes too with the trick little hexes machined on the ends of them. Threaded for heims and/or big tie rod ends.

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/100_8309.jpg)
We can do all the control arms as well. Threaded for 1" or 1 1/4" Johnny Joints, or heims. All you've gotta do is supply me the center to centers that you need....
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/100_8269.jpg)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 15, 2008, 12:13:00 PM
as far as length I am just saying that toomuch travel is more often times than not, a bad thing.


Hmmm that's NOT what she said Chris !  :o  ;D  ::)  ;D


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not all chefs are big boys/girls

  The ones that can cook worth a hoot are.  ;D 

 Chris, being a Chef is like the playin da Blues !  It has to run thru your soul and out thru your fingertips to be right. I got's LOTS of soul baby !!  ;)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 15, 2008, 12:21:19 PM
OMG Brian you are KILLIN me here !  :o

 I noticed those hexed links before but didn't say anything. That is some very very sweet machine work.

 I can tell you guys don't run that buggy in the mud. That breather would be in deep doodoo around here.

 Is that WARN winch for axle compression ? VERY nice.  ;) 


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 15, 2008, 12:22:16 PM
Sorry to hi-jack, max....mmm brisket, where would a fatboy aquire some of said brisket?

 Barney I buy all my Brisket at MARK'S FEED STORE.  ;) 


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Post by: peej23 on December 15, 2008, 01:19:44 PM
Sorry to hi-jack, max....mmm brisket, where would a fatboy aquire some of said brisket?

 Barney I buy all my Brisket at MARK'S FEED STORE.  ;) 

You told me you hand picked and wrastled the steers down to submission yourself!


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 15, 2008, 01:39:38 PM
Sorry to hi-jack, max....mmm brisket, where would a fatboy aquire some of said brisket?

 Barney I buy all my Brisket at MARK'S FEED STORE.  ;) 

You told me you hand picked and wrastled the steers down to submission yourself!

  Shhhh Chris.  Dangit boy do you have to tell ALL you know ?  :o  ::)  ;D 


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Post by: Brian on December 15, 2008, 05:15:11 PM
I noticed those hexed links before but didn't say anything. That is some very very sweet machine work.
 I can tell you guys don't run that buggy in the mud. That breather would be in deep doodoo around here.
 Is that WARN winch for axle compression ? VERY nice.  ;) 

That winch is actually for traditional purposes on that vehicle - sorry, wish I could claim something more bitchin' and trick there! haha ;)
Yeah, that breather is the way to go - but as far as positioning on the vehicle, it would surely need to seek higher ground for wheelin' in your neck of the woods!


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Post by: rsiebert7 on December 15, 2008, 07:26:39 PM
Sorry Darkness. This shits all too rich for my blood. All sounds great, i'm ready to see it happen!


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Post by: peej23 on December 16, 2008, 08:53:24 AM
thanks ryan - it's already happening


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Post by: Skinny Cook on December 16, 2008, 12:28:33 PM
Sorry to hi-jack, max....mmm brisket, where would a fatboy aquire some of said brisket?

 You ever been to a place in Pewee Valley named Jucy's ?  He has some great Brisket.  Check him out.  ;)


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Post by: High Pockets on December 16, 2008, 05:00:09 PM


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not all chefs are big boys/girls

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  The ones that can cook worth a hoot are.  ;D 

 Chris, being a Chef is like the playin da Blues !  It has to run thru your soul and out thru your fingertips to be right. I got's LOTS of soul baby !!  ;)

WTF? I'm not letting you have any more of my baked goodies, Carter....  :P :P :P


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 16, 2008, 05:49:21 PM
Ok guys, back on topic....let's take it "outside"


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 16, 2008, 08:27:22 PM
Ok guys, back on topic....let's take it "outside"

Thanks BarneyJEEP,  before we go any further.  We're doing FREE SHIPPING ON ALL GEN-RIGHT PRODUCTS THANKS TO GEN-RIGHT.  So I'm gonna take advantage of this just like you all should....  We are going to do steel corner guards with NO wheel cut-out for the wheelbase mod. CORRECT???????


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 17, 2008, 04:46:49 AM
i could've sworn Gen Right had Aluminum tub panels...but why not get the ones already cut out, then you can use them as a template to cut the body? personally i like the wheel wells moved back, i cant see comp cutting a Scrambler...

http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=CNR2013

i see them for TJ's and YJ's but not for CJ's or Scramblers...might have to ask them about that...If they dont offer a Stretched one then the blanks will have to work.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 17, 2008, 06:34:42 AM
no stretched one avail.... so the non wheel opening ones will have to do.  and yes they do make alum.  and their very $$$$$$$$$$$


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Post by: peej23 on December 17, 2008, 08:15:04 AM
sorry Max :) where were we?


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 17, 2008, 08:29:36 AM
No opening, aluminum corner guards. Steel rockers. And that campbell ent hood is dead sexy, or a translucent trent fab hood.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on December 17, 2008, 08:40:53 AM
I think a trent fab hood would be really cool Rob. I have only seen 1 or 2 rigs that don't look stupid with a clear hood because of hack fabrication, ghetto wiring and just a generally unclean engine compartment. You gotta have all of that in check along with a sweet motor to pull off a clear hood and make it look good. I think Max can do all of that with this build!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Brian on December 17, 2008, 08:58:21 AM
I must concur, those Campbell hoods are dead sexy......This is a CJ that we did with a Campbell style hood recently. Yours with the TJ Campbell hood would be beautiful!
This one's got some goofy side bars under the fenders, but other than that....yeah....she's pretty!  8)  Quality on the Campbell stuff is phenominal too....
Sorry Max, I know I'm not helping! hahaha  ;D
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/DSCN5056.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 17, 2008, 11:40:03 AM
sorry Max :) where were we?

well Chris,  some people are talking about brisket, some cookies, some rear steer, some hoods, and barney jeep and I are talking about GEN-RIGHT rear tub corner guards. WTF? lol.   They are offering FREE SHIPING RIGHT NOW!!!!  They have steel and alum. guards.  The alum. are over 1000.00 with a std. wheel opening, or steel with no wheel opening 700.00 so wheel base could be set and the guard cut accordingly.  Just wanted to take advantage of free shipping if we are doing the guards. ;D ;D ;D  then we'll get back on susp. and axles. ;) ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on December 17, 2008, 11:43:17 AM
sorry Max :) where were we?

well Chris,  some people are talking about brisket, some cookies, some rear steer, some hoods, and barney jeep and I are talking about GEN-RIGHT rear tub corner guards. WTF? lol.   They are offering FREE SHIPING RIGHT NOW!!!!  They have steel and alum. guards.  The alum. are over 1000.00 with a std. wheel opening, or steel with no wheel opening 700.00 so wheel base could be set and the guard cut accordingly.  Just wanted to take advantage of free shipping if we are doing the guards. ;D ;D ;D  then we'll get back on susp. and axles. ;) ;)

brisket and cookies - that is hilarious - all part of the fun

oh and the campbaell hood is ok also


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 17, 2008, 01:57:01 PM
Well Ok since Brian @ Currie brought it up and no-one is talking about Corner guards, lets take a min and talk about Hood Options.

 We like the Campbell Enterprise Fiberglass Hood, we have sold around 4-5 over the years.   Here is one we are putting on my business partner Jeremy's Jeep.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Red%20Rocket/rrfrontsuspension008.jpg)

This one we sold to one of customers those are 38's on 3.5" lift

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a55/Mongrel_knight/002-5.jpg)

And if you guys are dead set on a Clear Hood I think this would look good under it

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/LS1Parts.jpg)

Well maybe will give ole' King of the Hammers a call and see what they say!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on December 17, 2008, 03:31:27 PM
Well maybe will give ole' King of the Hammers a call and see what they say!

the campbell hood is sexy

if you were to go to KOTH i would go and support the local fab shop  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on December 18, 2008, 11:08:28 AM
Max, do the steel corner gaurds - - to save 30 - 40 pounds is not worth the extra 4 - 500 dollars.  Especially if they are going to be painted over any ways.  I do like the campbell hoods - - the only thing that has kept me from ordering one already is it is fiberglass - - i would be afraid of breaking it - - tube fenders won't break - - just something to think about.  Unless you could bend a tube to tightly follow the contour of the campbell hood where it only sticks out 1/2 to 1 inch to protect the hood but still looks good - - like we were talking about last night.  (not like the one brian posted up).


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: g.schucks on December 18, 2008, 11:19:06 AM
If you are looking for a hood, how about one that you can do this on....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/indypacecar93/Fall%20Ball/IMG005-1.jpg)

Or maybe this...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/indypacecar93/Fall%20Ball/IMG004-1.jpg)

g.schucks


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BIG85JEEP on December 18, 2008, 07:57:09 PM
That's the baddest ass hood in the world!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: dagimp31 on December 18, 2008, 08:00:45 PM
I will have to agree,  we (2 - 230 lbs guys) jumped up and down on it and when we got off of the hood, no dent to be found.  PIMP SHIT!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on December 18, 2008, 09:26:03 PM
I am a fan of the campbell hood, and lets be serious here, this scrambler isn't going to see any offroad time anyway, just trailered to shows and wiped with a diaper... ;D
just jivin- and i totally agree with blackjeep about the corner gaurds...  with 400 horsepower you will not notice 30 lbs and it will not effect your COG but WILL protect the integrity of your fairly uncommon and uncut scrambler tub.  I have aluminum corners and kick myself everyday for not going for good ones right off the bat (yes I know- this is the perfect opening for Jeremy to pimp Gen-rite and free shipping but not my bag right now, baby)...
Total tangent, but how wicked would it be if you could roll some coil covers from steel or aluminum to the same shape of the vette pieces, then have "jeep" or "moab offroad" water-jetted into them, and then paint match them the color of the jeep...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on December 19, 2008, 07:22:20 AM
Curious, do you need corner guards?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 19, 2008, 09:20:18 AM
Curious, do you need corner guards?

not really but it will make moving the wheelbase alot cleaner ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 20, 2008, 10:09:06 AM
I am a fan of the campbell hood, and lets be serious here, this scrambler isn't going to see any offroad time anyway, just trailered to shows and wiped with a diaper... ;D
just jivin- and i totally agree with blackjeep about the corner gaurds...  with 400 horsepower you will not notice 30 lbs and it will not effect your COG but WILL protect the integrity of your fairly uncommon and uncut scrambler tub.  I have aluminum corners and kick myself everyday for not going for good ones right off the bat (yes I know- this is the perfect opening for Jeremy to pimp Gen-rite and free shipping but not my bag right now, baby)...
Total tangent, but how wicked would it be if you could roll some coil covers from steel or aluminum to the same shape of the vette pieces, then have "jeep" or "moab offroad" water-jetted into them, and then paint match them the color of the jeep...

the guards are 85 lb. each side uncut.... once we cut the wheel opening for 40+ size tires and 400+ hp your right I probably won't notice. ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 20, 2008, 11:03:56 AM
Quote
the guards are 85 lb. each side uncut.... once we cut the wheel opening for 40+ size tires and 400+ hp your right I probably won't notice. ;D ;D ;D

if you do notice you can always supercharge it...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 20, 2008, 12:09:29 PM
If you are looking for a hood, how about one that you can do this on....

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/indypacecar93/Fall%20Ball/IMG005-1.jpg[/url])

Or maybe this...

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/indypacecar93/Fall%20Ball/IMG004-1.jpg[/url])

g.schucks


hahahahaha is that a factory hood???????? lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 20, 2008, 12:13:01 PM
Quote
the guards are 85 lb. each side uncut.... once we cut the wheel opening for 40+ size tires and 400+ hp your right I probably won't notice. ;D ;D ;D

if you do notice you can always supercharge it...


Okay BarneyJeep last time you opened your mouth about axles and now it looks like I'm doing rear steer  ;D ;D ;D SHUT UP ON THE SUPERCHARGER CRAP I'M GOING BROKE!!!!!!  lol. ;D ::) ;D when your mouth opens money falls out of my pocket.....  LMAO!!!!!! ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on December 20, 2008, 12:30:57 PM
What about these wheels????   ;D



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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BigHeadCraig on December 20, 2008, 08:26:50 PM
That Chevy is too funny!! Don't you remember, that's the ride we saw coming from Hooters the other day? Go big or go home!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on December 21, 2008, 04:31:17 AM
no no no....i was against rear steer, but i was for the 50* steering...bu hey you ASKED for our opinions...lol


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 21, 2008, 08:13:17 AM
no no no....i was against rear steer, but i was for the 50* steering...but hey you ASKED for our opinions...lol

  So was I Barney TILL I saw that axle cocaine from Brian.  :o   ;D   


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on December 22, 2008, 08:52:30 AM
max have you made any progress or are you tied up on jeremy's vehicle?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: g.schucks on December 22, 2008, 11:14:03 AM
If you are looking for a hood, how about one that you can do this on....

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/indypacecar93/Fall%20Ball/IMG005-1.jpg[/url])

Or maybe this...

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/indypacecar93/Fall%20Ball/IMG004-1.jpg[/url])

g.schucks


hahahahaha is that a factory hood???????? lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


From what I understand there were only two made... and I think the other one had an axle shaft burried into it.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 24, 2008, 01:29:11 PM
axle shaft.... hahaha. ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on December 26, 2008, 09:12:52 AM
If you are looking for a hood, how about one that you can do this on....

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/indypacecar93/Fall%20Ball/IMG005-1.jpg[/url])

Or maybe this...

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/indypacecar93/Fall%20Ball/IMG004-1.jpg[/url])

g.schucks


hahahahaha is that a factory hood???????? lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


From what I understand there were only two made... and I think the other one had an axle shaft buried into it.


Yup...I saw the pic!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 01, 2009, 06:36:42 PM
max have you made any progress or are you tied up on jeremy's vehicle?


Just been workin on J's JEEP...... sorry no new updates now...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on January 07, 2009, 03:14:36 PM
max have you made any progress or are you tied up on jeremy's vehicle?


Just been workin on J's JEEP...... sorry no new updates now...

 Come awn baby,,,multitask.  :o  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on January 14, 2009, 04:06:49 PM
Poor Alumabeast.... Feels sooo sad....  When does he get some Max time?? :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 19, 2009, 09:29:36 AM
MAXTIME IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!  ;D  :o   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on January 19, 2009, 10:56:50 AM
MAXTIME IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!  ;D  :o   ;D

  I know one thing for sure,,,after ALL THE HOURS YOU have spent helpin out those other guys, there BETTER be some payback sweat goin on with your project ????????  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on January 19, 2009, 08:08:57 PM
MAXTIME IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!  ;D  :o   ;D

  I know one thing for sure,,,after ALL THE HOURS YOU have spent helpin out those other guys, there BETTER be some payback sweat goin on with your project ????????  ;)

MMMMMMMMMMMMHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Fltblkbronco on January 22, 2009, 04:14:28 AM
MAXTIME IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!  ;D  :o   ;D
Been a day or two... hey Max the motor in your jeep had that death rattle long.... that sounded ugly at chili run..like a wristpin or rod bearing......


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 26, 2009, 12:13:26 PM
MAXTIME IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!  ;D  :o   ;D
Been a day or two... hey Max the motor in your jeep had that death rattle long.... that sounded ugly at chili run..like a wristpin or rod bearing......

yeah haven't look at it yet..... no spot in the shop. :( :(

however I'm starting on the ALUMABEAST NEXT MONDAY!!!!!!!!!!! DAMN IT!!!! ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 29, 2009, 10:02:31 AM
just got a confirmed sponsor for TIRES!!!!!!!  they should be here tomorrow I'll post pics when they get here!!!!  


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on January 29, 2009, 11:38:47 AM
Sweet! What are you getting?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on January 29, 2009, 03:04:50 PM
I know ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 29, 2009, 05:11:52 PM
Sweet! What are you getting?

Not telling tell they get here.. however I signed a sponsorship contract with them and they're excited about the build, and I think they might be stopping by the shop mid feb. to check things out.  hopefully they will be here tomorrow!!!!!   ;D ;D ;D  things are happening with this build and the CJ-8 tub got hosed out and cleaned out just before the snow hit.... It's ready to come in the shop Monday.  To update everyone on the axles.  Currie just got a couple housing done this week.  They have to inspect them and then they are gonna start putting the ft. housing together.  In the meantime I'll be working on the tub, Gen-Right corner guards, and cage.  Ohhh yeah I forgot to mention that I got some corner guards.. ???  sorry ;D ;D


hint: the tires are expensive and will make CoryL happy and Katkrahill sad...... ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 30, 2009, 04:19:18 PM
tires didn't show up today :( :( :(  However the axle order finally got processed.  Sorry but no rear steer!!!!!  Gonna be driving this one on the street!!! ;D ;D  Currie said about 3-4 weeks on delivery ;D ;D  I'm starting to get real excited!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on January 30, 2009, 05:09:29 PM
That sounds great!  Guess I will have to see your tires first hand when I drop off my Jeep at the end of next week.  So, I'm going to be  :'( about your tires.  Guess I know what they are then.

It will be temporary until you finish my build, then I will be  ;D :D ;) again.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on January 31, 2009, 06:39:06 PM
I know ;D
me too!!  glad it came thru, max!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 01, 2009, 09:58:54 AM
I guess the snow has killed the shipping so maybe we'll see them on monday   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on February 03, 2009, 10:43:14 AM
where is the pics ???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on February 03, 2009, 11:00:07 AM
Chris they are still havesting the rubber to make them with.  ::)   ;D 

COME AWN BABY where's the bling ???  U got us droolin Max.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 03, 2009, 01:25:22 PM
Alright I've made you all wait long enough....  Jeremy got to talking to Tim Walker our BFG rep. at the street rod nationals about this project and all the talking panned out!!!!!

  (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/BFGTires000.jpg)

Donnated (5) 40 X 14.50 - 17 BFG Mud Terrain T/A KM2. These are the newest version of the mud terrains with a TriGuard 3-ply polyester carcass, 2 steel belts, an aggressive open self-cleaning high void lug design and styling, with a rugged sidewall and shoulder.  These look real similar to the popular BFG Krawler that I ran for the last 4 yrs.  I'm real excited to try this tire out!  BFG is also comming out with some new tire sizes for the Krawler 2009 including 38X14.50R17, 40X14.50R17, and a 42X14.5R20 in a Blue label (not sticky) and the popular 39.5X13.5R17 in a Blue label.

After talking to Tim and since I've already had the Krawlers (blue label) I wanted to try something new and different.  He HIGHLY suggested the KM2 and said there getting alot better traction in some cases than the Krawler and since this is gonna be a "hardcore daily driver" these would perform on the street a little better with this new tread pattern.  So onto the Pics!!!!!  CORYL suggested these tires and alot of you all agreed.... So here they are. ;D ;D

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/BFGTires002.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/BFGTires003.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/BFGTires005.jpg)



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 03, 2009, 03:26:33 PM
the LS1 will be tearing up those treads soon enough!!!!! lookin good man...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on February 03, 2009, 09:05:11 PM
Your right, I'm now SAD :'(  But very happy for you ;D ;D ;D  And they are free is the best part!!! :D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on February 04, 2009, 07:08:09 AM
Nice stuff Max. Can't wait to see them walk up the Lil Rubion.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on February 04, 2009, 02:47:01 PM
Those are the shizzzznit!!!! I want some!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on February 04, 2009, 02:55:32 PM
Those are the shizzzznit!!!! I want some!

So did I but they couldn't get them a week earlier.  So I had to get a different 40" tire   >:(:'(  Guess Uncle Jeremy finally got some pull.   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 04, 2009, 05:25:02 PM
we might be able to get you some bill.... I'll try to find out. ;D ;D ;D


Title: Currie "F9" Fab Housings.
Post by: Brian on February 05, 2009, 04:40:12 PM
Hey buddy, finally got the Currie "F9" housings in. Your units for the build are currently in production. Thought you might like to see the pictures of a sample finished product - just got the pics in today. I don't have any frontend shots yet, as I think yours will be the first front one produced. The last picture in this series shows our prefab brace series. They fit right or left, and you can obviously use equal length ones, or a short and a long, depending on your housing center offset.
Here's a PR blurb on all the details: "Currie F9 fabricated housing center features a 3/16" thick Hi-Form 50 steel body, a 3/8" thick Hi-Form 50 steel 3rd. member mounting face, and is machined to fit 3" tubes. Unique to this design, the first bend in the housing is centered with the center line of the axle tube. This allows the bend to be the point of lowest ground clearance, and the flats on the housing to provide maximum ground clearance at up to 20 degrees of pinion angle. Another unique feature are the welded in bulkheads inside the housing that tie the face, the body, and the inner ends of the tubes all together. 3" tubes easily slide in from the outside and require minor griding to flatten one side of the tube to key it into the inner bulkhead."
Thank you for your patience, and for allowing us to get these new units into your build vehicle! I can't wait to see them installed - but probably not as much as YOU can't wait to see them on your doorstep huh? haha  Couple weeks buddy, couple weeks.....

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/CE-4303A.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/CE-4303A_r34.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/CE-4303.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/CE-4303_r34.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/CE-4303_side.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/CE-4303_f34.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/CE-4303_inside_cropped.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/CE4303BB_series.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 05, 2009, 05:48:58 PM
Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's SICK!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o WOW the FIRST ft. one made. SWEET!!! Thanks for the pics Brian now you really got me excited. ;D  Glad you sent the pics I was having a hard time visioning the way you mill a flat spot on the axle tube to "key" it into the center section.  The pics are great detail.  Hopefully the rest of the gang on here will like these things... LOL just kidding.   ;) ;) ;) I can't wait to see these axles in person.  Thanks again for the update maybe we'll see these in a few weeks. :P  Brian you know I'm not gonna sleep till they get here. :(


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on February 05, 2009, 05:59:31 PM
That's badazz, man  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on February 05, 2009, 06:25:10 PM
Those are sick!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: NickB on February 05, 2009, 07:03:33 PM
AWESOME!!! me likey


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on February 05, 2009, 08:08:58 PM
Nice bling Brian.

The Currie name yet once again stands for nothing but quality first.

Sweet keyway work too. Perfect design to dial in the angles and maintain structure.

Can't wait to see the finished product.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on February 06, 2009, 07:19:40 AM
Very cool.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 06, 2009, 07:41:00 AM
well we got tires here and axles on the way..... almost enough to get started on a chassis ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepTatt on February 06, 2009, 09:52:14 AM
Nice!!! I'm jealous!

What's the time frame you are looking at for getting this done?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 06, 2009, 10:08:54 AM
3-4 months??? if all the parts show up real soon.  Hopefully for SEMA and OFFROAD EXPO this year   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on February 06, 2009, 12:26:17 PM
I can't see the pictures from work - nothing but a bunch of red x's BUT - I bet they are totally badass - i am really happy to see this build work out the way it has Max. Your sponsors really are interested in stepping up for OUR project. Yeah.

Anyway - sema, offroad expo - I didn't know about any of this. Would be an experience!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on February 06, 2009, 01:54:41 PM
I can't see the pictures from work - nothing but a bunch of red x's BUT -

Must have a firewall blocking Photo Bucket.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on February 06, 2009, 03:35:12 PM
you know max, i am not a jealous person, but...

you suck.

those tires, and those axles, are the most beautiful thing i've ever seen for a vehicle.

i am truly jealous.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on February 06, 2009, 07:37:03 PM
we might be able to get you some bill.... I'll try to find out. ;D ;D ;D

That would be gr8 but will be content with the others if not.  BTW those axle sure are a beautiful thing.  Look forward to stopping by tomorrow :D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on February 10, 2009, 08:45:34 AM
Hurry up already so I can drive it!  ;D ;D ;D


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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 10, 2009, 09:08:40 AM
nice shirt!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on February 10, 2009, 09:35:21 AM
nice shirt!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Pshhhhhh..... geez. I didn't even notice that. Of course you did....  :P :P

 :-*


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Post by: skipfierce on February 10, 2009, 09:44:24 AM
nice shirt!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Oh yeah!  ;)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 10, 2009, 09:45:41 AM
nice shirt!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Pshhhhhh..... geez. I didn't even notice that. Of course you did....  :P :P

 :-*

 For being sooooo fast , you sure are SLOW !  ;D  :P 

 Poor girl,,,I'd volunteer to wash her off.  :o  ;D 

 Looks like that Cherokee wasn't even in 4wd ?  The rear wheels have spin marks, the frt don't.  ::)


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Post by: High Pockets on February 10, 2009, 03:47:11 PM
nice shirt!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


Pshhhhhh..... geez. I didn't even notice that. Of course you did....  :P :P

 :-*


 For being sooooo fast , you sure are SLOW !  ;D  :P 




(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/snookpw/Wonderwoman.gif)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 10, 2009, 06:42:17 PM
you all are too much....... ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 10, 2009, 07:11:20 PM
HA !  Wonder Wench. I love it.  ;D  :P 


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Post by: Brian on February 11, 2009, 08:25:43 AM
Hey buddy, here's a shot of the rear 3rd. member that's coming with the axle. Aluminum case, billet big bearing pinion support (red anodized to match the drive flange caps of course! haha), 5.14 gears, 35 spline ARB.
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/4028A2.jpg)


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Post by: Brian on February 11, 2009, 08:31:42 AM
I think a set of the Currie V-bumpers would look great on there too! Shipped a set out yesterday. Narrow front style, wide front style for use on the rear (with some minor trimming), and a fairlead mount. Sound good to you?
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/Bumpers.jpg)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 11, 2009, 08:36:03 AM
OH MAN !!  AWESOME stuff there Brian.  :o   ;D 

 And bumpers too ?  Gezzz WAY above and beyond the call of duty.  ;)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 11, 2009, 08:43:02 AM
damn!!!!!!!!! you're killing me.. ;D ;D ;D ;D   :o :o :o :o


Now here is a little EYE CANDY FOR YOU!!!!!  Here's a sample drawing of what this rig might look like.  what do you all think?

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/scramblerproof2.jpg)


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Post by: JeepTatt on February 11, 2009, 11:39:42 AM
Damn!!! That's sweet!!! 


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Post by: skipfierce on February 11, 2009, 11:55:44 AM
Pimp shiznit!


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 11, 2009, 02:02:48 PM
You gonna run deep water ?  That boat won't save you.   ;D   :P 

 NICE stuff Max. Even got those pimped out axle flange caps on it. Love that WARN on the frt too.  ;D 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 11, 2009, 02:42:36 PM
yeah the artist that has been working on this rendition is getting close to the real thing.  Check out the alum. suspension arms and driveshafts.  The currie ft. bumper, warn winch, powertank, TJ highline A.E.V. hood, and Gen-Right tube fenders, wheels and tires..... etc.  looks pretty cool huh?


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Post by: KatKrahel on February 11, 2009, 03:16:07 PM
It looks great Max :o  I'm sure you have had sleepless night and will until this is done.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 11, 2009, 04:15:14 PM
can we see it in LIME GREEN? please...

or clear coated, polished, aluminum...

but it looks great, cant wait to see the real one..


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 12, 2009, 07:26:16 AM
I thought polishing the links and alum. sway bar arms would be just enough "bling".  what do you think???? I always thought a 2 tone paint on a Aqualu tub would be cool.  Like from the cowl seam up polished tub and cowl seam down paint divided by a pinstripe of some sort.... ;D ;D 


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 12, 2009, 08:04:48 AM
maybe the hood, grill, and front fenders the blue then fade to the polished back half?


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 12, 2009, 08:59:44 AM
haven't thought about that........ :o


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 12, 2009, 09:01:56 AM
maybe the hood, grill, and front fenders the blue then fade to the polished back half?

 Ohhh very nice idea Barney. 

  PLUS by painting the hood/upper area it will cut WAY down on sun glare.  ;)

  Just remember what you polish, has to stay polished !  :o


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 12, 2009, 09:06:53 AM
if you clear the polished part it should stay fairly bright, with regular washes.

the blue front that goes to blue flames that fade to the polish, start the flames where the fender and tub meet and taper and finish about midway down the door.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 12, 2009, 09:39:24 AM
if you clear the polished part it should stay fairly bright, with regular washes.

 Except where he rubs it off on trees/rocks.  ;)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 12, 2009, 10:50:59 AM
lol, c'mon Max is a better driver then that...


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 12, 2009, 06:22:19 PM
Yep, in his Mom's Caddy !   :o   ;D 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 14, 2009, 10:51:51 AM
Okay I gotta give this artist some Props :o  He's been reading the forum trying to capture what rig YOU ALL ARE BUILDING!!!!!! CHECK THIS OUT!!!! :o :o :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/scramblerproof3.jpg)


Now let me introduce the artist..........  Mr. Bill Nissley  ;D :D :o ;D :) ;D

Maybe Bill could jump on here and tell us a little about himself and maybe even do some renditions of YOUR JEEPS. ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: NickB on February 14, 2009, 11:27:45 AM
that is a great rendition of the build. major props to Mr. Bill Nissley and Max. lookin great so far.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 14, 2009, 11:48:41 AM
hell yeah!!! thats what i'm talkin about!!!











ps. sorry got a lil excited...


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 14, 2009, 12:17:13 PM
barney Jeep I thought that was pretty close to what you were talking about. hahaha I got up this morning and checked my email and bill had sent that pic.  I had to post it up I didn't even tell him to make any changes lol he's been reading this thread on his own. ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 14, 2009, 12:26:58 PM
(http://atypically.net/smilies/headbang.gif)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 14, 2009, 01:16:21 PM
VERY nice indeed ! 

 Now he needs to find a shed to put that boat in.  ;D


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Post by: "Benny D" on February 14, 2009, 02:54:53 PM
rubbin on rocks/trees hahahaha yeah right!!!  He aint even going to wheel this thing - - this is going to be the biggest badest mall crawler ever ;D


No seriously though - - I know the budget is getting tight on you max but an aqaulu aluminum tub would look pretty sick.  If your going this far this thing is going to have to stand out (especially if your going to be at sema).  Gotta give it up to the artist - - all the way down to the graphics.  By the way I don't think once you polish it --it will be that hard to keep blingin'.  I did a motorcycle frame and it was easy to keep looking good.  I don't know about the clear coat though.  I have heard of people doing that to motorcycle frames and after a while it fogging up.  So they had to wet sand it all over again to get the clear coat off.  Could have been the person who did the clear coat though --who knows.  Just my 2 pennies.


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 14, 2009, 04:35:42 PM
shouldn't be any different then the clear on normal paint, if you take care of it it wont fade over time.


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Post by: Billnis on February 15, 2009, 04:24:14 AM
Well hello everyone,
I am Bill Nissley, and as Max has told you I did the concept drawing for his Scrambler project.

I live in Southern California and I work full time a a graphic artist and photo retoucher. I have done quite a few projects for Currie Enterprises, such as the Currie pinstripe t-shirt design and their Rock Jock logo.

My two sons and I race the #1719 Jeep Cherokee in the Jeepspeed series. Both of my sons are involved with companies in the offroad industry, Chris works for Currie Enterprises in there phone sales and support department and my other son Tom works for T&J Performance Center doing sales and handling all of their graphics.

Thanks for all the kind words about the illustration, Maybe when we get it finalized, Max will want to get some t-shirts made of this.

Bill Nissley


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 15, 2009, 07:25:48 AM
VERY nice job with the rendering...looks awesome.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 15, 2009, 09:03:50 AM
Howdy Bill. Welcome to the site.

  VERY nice drawing. From just reading the options/suggestions, you have done a great job on the rendering.

   


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 15, 2009, 11:12:37 AM
hey Bill I like the youtube video on your racing website.  I would love to race in the Jeepspeed series.  Maybe that should be the next Project on this forum. ;D ;D ;D

-Max


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Post by: 3j7 on February 15, 2009, 09:14:51 PM
max, even if you don't go with the aluminum tub, i think you should paint it just like that.  just use silver instead of polish, it would still look killer!!
by the way, great rendering, bill.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 16, 2009, 07:39:33 AM
max, even if you don't go with the aluminum tub, i think you should paint it just like that.  just use silver instead of polish, it would still look killer!!
by the way, great rendering, bill.

I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!! with you josh...


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 18, 2009, 09:24:25 AM
Alright let me get everyone updated.  John Currie and Brian at (http://drivetrain-4you.com/Drivetrain-Brand/images/currie.gif) Sent us some bumpers for the rig a narrow V rock for the ft. and a 54" wide V rock ft. bumper that we're gonna modify for the rear.  Pretty sweet, any TJ customers that wanna stop by and see these bumpers feel free.


 Or check out my TJ it has the same ft. bumper and optional grill hoop.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Father%20Son%20Run%202007/fathersonrun07011.jpg)

AND HERE ARE THE NEW BUMPERS THAT SHOWED UP YESTERDAY!!!!

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/currievrocks.jpg)

BIG THANKS TO JOHN AND BRIAN AT CURRIE FOR ALL THEIR SUPPORT!!! 


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 18, 2009, 09:32:35 AM
Dang Max pretty soon you are gonna have to call this the Moab Offroad Customer/Currie Alumabeast build.  :o   ;D 

  Another VERY generous Currie donation. First class guys with a first class product.   ;)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 18, 2009, 09:49:24 AM
HAHAHA I know.  We've been real lucky to have the support we've gotten from ALL of our vendors.  Hopefully this rig will generate ALOT more sales of their products.  On a side note we did just order a pair of CURRIE ROCK JOCK 60'S FOR A TJ CUSTOMER   and another set of 40" BFG KM2's  


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Post by: skipfierce on February 18, 2009, 09:56:57 AM
Well there you go. The advertisement generated by this build is working already! I know I'm interested in Currie products for the future build of the CJ.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 18, 2009, 10:08:26 AM
Here's the other suprise that happened yesterday. Richard Winchester (on the left) and Tim Walker(on right)from       (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/BFGTires000.jpg)

Stopped by to talk more about the project and see the shop.  It was real nice hearing about all the new tire sizes comming out in 2009!!!!

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/bfgreps.jpg)

I'll keep everyone posted on the new tire sizes when I find out more this spring!!!    ;D ;D ;D

 THANKS AGAIN TO RICHARD WINCHESTER AND TIM WALKER FROM BFG FOR MAKING THIS BUILD A REALITY!!!  


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 18, 2009, 10:24:55 AM
hahaha Jeremy said that Doug Eberle just left the showroom pricing a Currie V Rock ft. bumper and grill hoop like the one on my TJ and some Currie Johnny Joints.  ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: KatKrahel on February 18, 2009, 02:21:09 PM
HAHAHA I know.  We've been real lucky to have the support we've gotten from ALL of our vendors.  Hopefully this rig will generate ALOT more sales of their products.  On a side note we did just order a pair of CURRIE ROCK JOCK 60'S FOR A TJ CUSTOMER   and another set of 40" BFG KM2's  

I agree that this will help generate Sales.  It worked for me ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 18, 2009, 06:24:28 PM
i DIG THE GRILL HOOPS...

all the contributing parties are AWESOME


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Post by: Brian on February 19, 2009, 03:01:27 PM
We're gonna go ahead and upgrade you to a polished gear case too - didn't figure you would mind!  ;D(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/4028A-Polished-2.jpg)


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Post by: Brian on February 19, 2009, 03:05:04 PM
PROGRESS!!! We have progress buddy.....rear housing is almost done. Final welding today, cleaning tomorrow. Whatcha think???

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/100_8630.jpg)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 19, 2009, 03:12:59 PM
WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o  HOLY CRAP!!!!! :o :o :o THATS BADAZZZZZZZZZZZ BRIAN....  I WISH YOU WOULD QUIT TEASING ME.  THAT POLISHED 3RD MEMBER IS SICK.  SO IS THE REAR HOUSING!!!!  DOORSTEP ETA????? ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 19, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
OMG I'm speechless,,,,,almost !  :o  :o  ;D

  That is one incredible looking piece of work. WOW !!!

  Awesome stuff there Brian.  ;)

 


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Post by: 3j7 on February 20, 2009, 04:54:36 AM
man that thing is HD!  try to bend that!!  i love the trussing...  the polished case is nice too...


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Post by: "Benny D" on February 20, 2009, 07:10:20 AM
Max, if i were you I wouldn't bother putting those under the scrambler - - looks like pretty shotty work.  I think I know someone with a black tj that would probably run them though - - you should just give them to that guy! ;D  No really those are SICK!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 20, 2009, 07:13:41 AM
Max, if i were you I wouldn't bother putting those under the scrambler - - looks like pretty shotty work.  I think I know someone with a black tj that would probably run them though - - you should just give them to that guy! ;D  No really those are SICK!!!

hahahaha  hmmmmm...... black TJ you mean MY BLACK TJ?????  lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 20, 2009, 09:06:22 AM
if you could polish the housings, max and paint "CURRIE" in the same blue as the jeep and paint the caliper that blue also


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on February 20, 2009, 09:12:26 AM
Max, after zooming in on those pictures I found several welding flaws. I think that you should set those out for the scrap pile and I will help you take them down to cash in. Maybe we should wait for the other axle to arrive ?  I'm guessing that the welds on it maybe flawed as well ?  :o  :o   ;D 

 I think Smokey Jeep needs a new set of axles ?  However IF I ran 40's I'd have to cook standing on a milk crate.  :o  :o   ;D   


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 24, 2009, 09:30:34 AM
hahaha carter you're not getting these gems!!!!  I'm finally gonna have a scrambler/ TJ thing and you not gonna get anything but a ride in it on the trail...  ;D ;D ;D


Now onto some eye candy.....


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/KMC.jpg)

Now we've all got to choose which beadlock ring so I can place the order!!!!!!  


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/kmcbeadlock.jpg)

So Jeremy was talking to KMC about this project last week while placing an order for some of their "rockstar" wheels and we just got a sponsorship for 5 KMC BEADLOCKS!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
BIG KUDOS TO UNCLE JEREMY, MATT HOFFMAN, RHETT SANDER, AND KEVIN FITZGERALD AT KMC WHEELS!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

If that wasn't enough I talked to Bill Nissley (the graphics guy) and he adjusted the drawing to include these wheels!!!!!!

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/scramblerproof4.jpg)

What's everyone think????  We're getting alot closer!!!!! ;)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 24, 2009, 09:32:54 AM
orange bl rings?... looks good man, please lose the kyak


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 24, 2009, 11:08:59 AM
I love kayaking I've got one for fishing and a 17ft. for touring....  that's kinda the theme here is a rig that really can DO ALL like tote some toys around.... ;D ;D ;D  I quess the kayak could be a snowboard or mtn. bike..... haha but seriously check this trail ride out it was our "Father Son Run" where we had conoe race and trail ride with a fish fry thrown in between ;D ;D ;D ;D    http://s132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Father%20Son%20Run%202007/

Here's my black TJ

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Father%20Son%20Run%202007/FathersonLivingstonRun07017.jpg)

Here's Johnny T and Benny D

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Father%20Son%20Run%202007/FathersonLivingstonRun07049.jpg)

Here's Uncle Jeremy's Jeep.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Father%20Son%20Run%202007/littleredTJ.jpg)

Here's my Dad and I.  And the rest of the gang.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Father%20Son%20Run%202007/FathersonLivingstonRun07042.jpg)

Our trail rides arn't ALWAYS about wheelin' But they are about havin FUN!!!
;D ;D ;D  ;)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 24, 2009, 11:12:45 AM
awesome..did not know that part of it, or neglected to read that part...carry on...

(http://www.angelfire.com/moon/harleysiber/images/party.gif)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on February 24, 2009, 02:10:44 PM
Man all those days of Scrambler peep talks and that's how you treat me.  :o  ::)

 No respect,,,,, :'( 

 Nice wheels.  ;D

 I vote for the narrow version. Less to snag on the rocks. However the wider, bling version would be nice for shows. Either way it will be a while before you get them dirty.  ;) 


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Post by: Brian on February 24, 2009, 02:59:20 PM
More progress on our end buddy.....This is YOUR front housing! Prior to bracing of course....Will be braced by the end of the day today.
Soooo....what do the people think??? 8) Being that this is the "people's build" (not to be confused with the "people's elbow" of course: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=people's%20elbow)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/FrontHousing.jpg)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 24, 2009, 03:05:23 PM
Looks crooked to me Brian.   :o  You better send it to me instead.

I'll fix it for him and pass it on.  ;)  ;D

  You guys are KILLIN me here.  8)

   


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 24, 2009, 03:20:03 PM
dead sexy....


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 24, 2009, 03:24:22 PM
 :o :o :oooohhhhhh we're getting alot closer.  And brian you're killing me!!!!!!!  send pics when the bracing and knuckle gussets are done ;D ;D


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Post by: skipfierce on February 25, 2009, 07:48:13 AM
Quote
What's everyone think????  We're getting alot closer!!!!! ;)


I like the bling version in this pic!

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/KMC.jpg)




(not to be confused with the "people's elbow" of course: [url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=people's%20elbow[/url])



Can you smeeeelllll......what Currie....is cookin'!  ;D


Gayest finishing move ever by the way. Worse than Hogan's leg drop.  ;)





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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 25, 2009, 08:48:21 AM
So skip likes the "CORR" beadlock ring (wide ring).  I think that, that ring would deffinatly protect the wheel in the rocks but the "DESERT" beadlock ring (the less wide) looks like it would be easier to keep the wheel clean!!!!  Do you all like the ring being black like in the drawing????  Uncle Jeremy had a good idea on the CORR ring.  Anodize the ring black then polish the inside of the "cut-outs".  I thought that sounded real cool. ;D ;D ;D  I'm torn I've got wide rings on my trailready wheels and slim rings on my walker evans wheels.  I like them both one is easier to clean the wheel and the other protects the wheel better.  Any more input?


OHHHH YEAH I'M LEAVING TODAY TO GOTO THE KING OF THE HAMMERS RACE !!!!!  I'll be working the #1 Checkpoint with Thor and Jon from (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/viking-offroad.gif) (The guys that donated the free syn. winchline)  I'll be getting tons of pics and video!!! 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on February 25, 2009, 10:09:07 AM
I like the idea of orange rings and perhaps you can do a black bolt so you will see the black cap heads.


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Post by: Brian on February 25, 2009, 11:17:58 AM
It's gettin' there.....
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/100_8659.jpg)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 25, 2009, 11:22:06 AM
corr series, orange beadlock rings, black bolt heads


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 25, 2009, 11:34:49 AM
i'm trying to keep colors at a minimum we've got blue and sliver paint, black and tan seats with red stiching, red coil-overs, red drive flanges, black roll cage, alum. wheels, black wall tires........  now ORANGE BEADLOCK RINGS???????????  COME AWN NOW.

THIS IS GONNA BE A RAINBOW!  LOL!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Brian on February 25, 2009, 11:51:51 AM
I've gotta side with Max on this one....
I do like the Jeremy idea - the black with the polishing inside the holes - good one J! Would be a trick detailing feature for the show purposes.....


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on February 25, 2009, 12:03:40 PM
I've gotta side with Max on this one....
I do like the Jeremy idea - the black with the polishing inside the holes - good one J! Would be a trick detailing feature for the show purposes.....

 I'm with J-dawg on this one as well.  The wheels are just supposed to complement the deal.

 The black rings with the polished holes sounds VERY nice and will look pimp as hell when someone is standing there at a show looking at them. I'm also guessing that they would be MUCH easier to spot paint up if they get rashed. Go back and look at the last picture. Those narrower black rings look nice, but the wider rings with black would REALLY look good.  ;) 

 Tooo many colors and this thing is gonna look like a GAY PRIDE sticker.  :o  :o  :o ;D

 One last thing,,,the only red/orange you want should be in the MOAB logo. That way they KNOW who built it.  ;)


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on February 25, 2009, 12:20:05 PM
the moab logo was that only reason i said orange rings, black rings do look good on it.

Corr series, black rings


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Post by: peej23 on February 25, 2009, 12:22:05 PM
talk to forest (rusty)when you see him this week. He has had both rings on those wheels in the past couple years. I like them both, but agree cleaning will be more challenging with the wide ones


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Post by: skipfierce on February 25, 2009, 01:01:10 PM


 Tooo many colors and this thing is gonna look like a GAY PRIDE sticker.  :o  :o  :o ;D



Yeah...then he'll have to paint a big yellow 24 on the doors and top and thanking Dupont at the end of each run.  ;)


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 25, 2009, 01:21:30 PM


 Tooo many colors and this thing is gonna look like a GAY PRIDE sticker.  :o  :o  :o ;D



Yeah...then he'll have to paint a big yellow 24 on the doors and top and thanking Dupont at the end of each run.  ;)

 LMAO,,,,yep, Gordon is Gay. Just ask his lady.  ::)   


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Post by: txbear607 on February 25, 2009, 08:10:13 PM
I say get all painted with the blue and silver the seata will be different


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on February 26, 2009, 12:18:52 PM
Well Max is out playing I get to deliver the good news.
 I just got off the phone with Matt from KMC   and he says they are kicking in both rings so we can wheel a set and show a set.  How cool is that.  They are also bending the rules on a few other things for us so that we can continue to build the ultimate Jeep.

 You all are rockin this build keep it up.
UJ


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Post by: Skinny Cook on February 26, 2009, 12:34:30 PM
AWESOME !  Good news. 

THANKS KMC ! 


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Post by: skipfierce on February 26, 2009, 12:41:39 PM
Hellz yeah!


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Post by: peej23 on February 28, 2009, 08:21:46 AM
It's gettin' there.....
([url]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/100_8659.jpg[/url])


Brian, the housing looks nice. Is there any plans to brace across the top? With forces on most front ends being applied in an upward direction from the wheels on the outer ends of the axle, most front end fatigue or bend in an upward direction making the housing "smile" at you.


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Post by: Brian on March 03, 2009, 08:24:38 AM
Well, we have not found that this housing necessarily needs bracing at all in “most” applications - because of the features incorporated into it for strength reasons - as illustrated in the earlier photos of the internal structure of the housing center.
However, applications where a V-8 vehicle on 40+ inch tires comes down out of the air under power, yeah, that's where bracing comes in. We have done very slim top braces on some front ends, like our Comanche that recently landed in you all's neck of the woods, as well as several buggy frontends.
With the excessive over-engineering of the housing center, and the heavy front bracing that is installed here, I don't see there ever be a problem in this application. And in keeping the bracing in this location, you keep that much more clearance room on top so the unit has plenty of room to articulate - and articulation is king! As well as leaving it easier to mount suspension brackets and ram assist to, etc...
Another angle to look at this is - compare the strength of this - after reviewing the photos of how the tubes mount to the housing center and such - to a Dana style housing. A 60 - even our own RockJock - for that matter. In this application - there is essentially no way to brace a RockJock being that you are dealing with steel and cast. Not to say that people don't do it! WE don't do it. Flexing of the Dana housing is all part of a Dana style housing - it's inevitable, they are designed to do it. They do flex and return in most cases - but when pushed too far – in this style of application - generally they will crack the casting before they would bend a tube. We've found that when the Dana style housings are completely restricted from flexing because they’ve been braced - they will often crack as well. This being the case, in our eyes, for the longevity of our own product, we do not brace RockJock or a Dana style housings.
So when you consider the same level of imminent danger to a housing - and put the braced fabricated 9" up against an unbraced RockJock, or other "brand X" 60 frontend in that situtation - the rigidly braced, all steel fabricated 9" is bound to come out far ahead of a Dana style housing.
What I'm not going to say is that you'll never bend this thing - you'll bend anything, you'll put a bow in anything. Again, if you are in the application where you are coming down hard on a 40+ inch tall tire under power - in this application - which is generally some serious rock crawling/rock racing, etc., - these are vehicles that are regularly maintained for issues such as what we are discussing here. If and when a bow or bend in a housing is found, a 9" housing can be fixed, and in most cases a 60/Dana housing cannot be - it's a throw away. The bowed/bent 9" can have it's brace relieved of it's stress, the complete housing then put in a press, pressed back straight, brace reattached, ends reset straight, and it's back down the road - no parts purchased - just labor. A 60 housing, put in a press, under any situation, in an attempt to straighten - just cracks the case - because cast obviously does not bend.
Ultimately, I think the answer to your question is, you are correct that "a" housing would generally bend upward without top or bottom bracing. This housing - in our line of housings that we build and test for strength - is so horrendously strong - compared to anything else we've ever built - that I feel the chances of it ever bending at all in any direction - is pretty slim. The bracing is necessary, yes, for maximum integrity of the unit in this application, and the front is the best location for clearance considerations - articulation clearance on top, ground clearance on the bottom. The chance of the housing ever bending straight up – is probably not too common, as most that we see bend upward and backward at the same time. So when looked at it that way – that the forces will try to bend upward and backward – by the time this housing is rolled to proper pinion angle – the brace will be forward and downward slightly – opposing the direction of all common frontend bends.


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Post by: peej23 on March 03, 2009, 11:01:34 AM
agree on most all of your points brian, and also agree that in most applications none is plenty strong, just like braces over the top instead of in front or back, especially in applications where the motor is above it. thanks


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Post by: Skinny Cook on March 03, 2009, 11:21:48 AM
Personally I like the frt and rear braces. We don't desert race around here.  ::)

I would think that braces NOT being on top would provide more axle travel upwards and none on the bottom will mean more grd clearance.  ;) 


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Post by: Brian on March 03, 2009, 12:54:15 PM
Personally I like the frt and rear braces. We don't desert race around here.  ::)

I would think that braces NOT being on top would provide more axle travel upwards and none on the bottom will mean more grd clearance.  ;) 

That's a very good point that I'll expand on a little if I may....
Bracing style is VERY geographically determined - as in - the type of wheeling that you'll be doing in your area designates the purpose for the bracing, as well as the type of bracing that is necessary to be most useful in your application.
On our own vehicles, we build A LOT of up-travel into all of our suspension systems, so we do not top brace our vehicles' front ends because it would limit our up-travel. Bottom bracing we do in our JeepSpeed desert racing vehicles - but NEVER in our Rock Crawlers so as not to take away precious ground clearance.
Back brace positioning and function is totally application specific - but then again - in the grand scheme of things - pure asthetics comes into play too - and that is totally a personal choice. When you are buying a bitchin' front end and having a trick brace put on - you also want what looks cool to you in your eyes, and we are here to make that happen! ;)
A cool feature to the Currie fabricated housing is that the facets are equal all the way around - so the braces can be mounted on any facet of the housing center, allowing them to be clocked on whichever facet you would like....
Thanks for the input and the discussion guys....


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Post by: 3j7 on March 03, 2009, 01:54:10 PM
Wow, great explanation!!  i learned a bunch from that, and it will come in handy when it is time for me to order my front housing... Thanx, man!!


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 03, 2009, 02:29:38 PM
Well Max is out playing I get to deliver the good news.
 I just got off the phone with Matt from KMC   and he says they are kicking in both rings so we can wheel a set and show a set.  How cool is that.  They are also bending the rules on a few other things for us so that we can continue to build the ultimate Jeep.

 You all are rockin this build keep it up.
UJ

Uncle Jeremy just showed me this I must have missed it.  How cool is this We're getting both style rings.  BIG THANKS TO MATT AND KMC WHEELS

Also thanks for the input Brian I think we all learned a little something from your input. ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on March 03, 2009, 02:50:04 PM
Also thanks for the input Brian I think we all learned a little something from your input. ;D

 OH sure,,,give him all the credit !  :o   :P   ;D 


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 03, 2009, 03:04:41 PM
Also thanks for the input Brian I think we all learned a little something from your input. ;D

 OH sure,,,give him all the credit !  :o   :P   ;D 

and you too Mr. Carter ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on March 03, 2009, 03:27:49 PM
Also thanks for the input Brian I think we all learned a little something from your input. ;D

 OH sure,,,give him all the credit !  :o   :P   ;D 

and you too Mr. Carter ;D ;D ;D ;D

  Huh,,,too little too late.  :P   ;D

  Glad you got home safe.  ;)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 04, 2009, 08:05:47 AM
Okay so here's a little update on the body of our rig.  The TJ front clip idea sounds great until I found out how different the curvature of the TJ and CJ cowls are.  So after talking to Chris Wood at A.E.V. about their highline TJ hood, and Todd at Aqualu about building a Custom body like this one that Walker Evans owns.  I started to realize that we had some stuff to talk about.  This is a TJ cowl with a CJ windshield frame.

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n160/Kalico13/Maxs%20KOH%20King%20of%20the%20Hammers%202009/MaxKOHCali075.jpg)

Or on this rig they used a YJ hood modified to fit a TJ grill.  Either way we have a bump in the road that needs to be discussed.

(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8183/greenjeep12wd8.jpg)

scrambler tub w/ a YJ or CJ front clip with TJ grill?
custom Aqualu tub with a TJ cowl and CJ windshield frame (so a bestop soft top will fit)?
or maybe a LJ tub with a TJ front clip?

It IS up to you all (keep in mind the Aqualu tub is the most expensive at $4000.00 and I'm broke) ;D

hopefully we can resolve this pretty fast before the axles show up. ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on March 04, 2009, 09:03:46 AM
they both look good...
unfortunately if you are keeping with the aluminum theme then it should be aqualu...
If you are going to run full fenders then the Tj/LJ would be the way to go, as they are larger openings

If you have a scrambler body already go that way...

either way its Round headlights...




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Post by: skipfierce on March 04, 2009, 11:50:18 AM
I agree with Rob...since you have the scrambler tub, use it and save some cash. Unless of course you get an Aqualu tub donated!


My vote = scrambler tub w/ a YJ or CJ front clip with TJ grill



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Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 04, 2009, 11:51:48 AM
My vote = scrambler tub w/ a YJ or CJ front clip with TJ grill

the CJ hood dosen't fit the TJ grill at all  :( :( :(


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on March 04, 2009, 12:00:53 PM
My vote = scrambler tub w/ a YJ or CJ front clip with TJ grill

the CJ hood dosen't fit the TJ grill at all  :( :( :(

Then my vote is to use the scrambler tub and the whole CJ front clip. Keep it old school!  ;)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 04, 2009, 01:49:15 PM
Okay I just got done talking to Todd at AQUALU and he is offering a HUGE DISCOUNT to our project, if that IS what you all want.  At this point it is totally up to you all.  I'm OUT of FUNDS but could probably make any of the options work.  This should be a SERIOUS discussion and we have until Monday of next week to get back to Todd at AQUALU.  He said it would be a "CUSTOM" tub with a TJ cowl and CJ windshield frame and he could take it to Easter Jeep Safari in Moab UTAH for free pick-up.  I think we know some people going that maybe could bring it back. ;D ;D  This is in YOUR HANDS NOW!!!!

AQUALU CUSTOM TUB most expensive but a HUGE DISCOUNT

USED LJ TUB 1000.00

THE SCRAMBLER TUB THAT IS HERE 700.00

I'm looking forward to the responses!!!!

Thanks again to TODD at AQUALU.  He has ALWAYS been great to work with and we look forward to selling more of their products. ;) ;)

like check out this CJ tailgate/toolbox

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/tailgate.jpg)

and this alum bulk head for gr8tops half hard top

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/bulkhead.jpg)


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Post by: peej23 on March 04, 2009, 02:12:53 PM
the alum tub would be really cool max.

sell the 8 tub to recoup some monies


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Post by: Brian on March 04, 2009, 03:08:16 PM
I know money is a concern, but as we've discussed before, even if it takes a little longer to build because of funds - build it once and build what you ultimately want. These opportunities come along all too infrequently in life.......


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on March 04, 2009, 03:42:35 PM
first choice would be aqualu + TJ
second would be 8 + cj clip


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Post by: "Benny D" on March 04, 2009, 04:09:32 PM
Max, I have the feeling that everyone on this forum is going to have their own opinion on how this should go down.  So maybe we should list some pros and cons of each.  The aqualu tub is going to give you that show car finshed look - that would probably turn heads at sema and maybe a magazine feature (not saying that the cj8 or the lj would not but the aluminum would be blinging.).  The down side to the aluminum tub is - - I would hate to see you have this bad ass rig that is so blinging that would be afraid to really wheel it.  The LJ - everyone makes cool accessories for these, ie viking soft tops.  The downside is you would have to go back and re-buy all of your body armor...  As far as the cj8 - - I know that you have always wanted to build/wheel one - - here is your chance!

After typing all that out - - I think that I have reached my decision.  I vote for the cj8.  After talking to you, it sounds like you know exactly how you would build it (removable floor panels, frame...).  It sounds like you will have to do some sheet metal work around the cowl area - - so you could make it line up with a tj front clip.  Any of the options would be awesome - - the aluminum would probably be the most blinging, but I think that you would have more fun in the cj8.  I believe that the lj is disqualified because of how much you would have to go back and buy that you have already bought for the cj8.


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Post by: samb. on March 04, 2009, 04:30:57 PM
whats keeping the CJ8 tub and TJ hood, grill, and fender from lining up?

ifs its just to wide then narrow the TJ hood/grill and make custom fenders.

if the hoods to narrow widen it at the cowl but narrow it up towards the grill so that you can keep a factory TJ grill


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Post by: 3j7 on March 04, 2009, 08:21:25 PM
do the scrambler...  most cost effective and easiest to fix (plus i'm biased towards cjs).  you are already going to have a wicked driveline combo and bling wheels and tires, why not keep it old school with the modified cj8 tub?  most wheelers spend all their money on drivetrain stuff anyway, you should do the same!!


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 04, 2009, 09:34:10 PM
whats keeping the CJ8 tub and TJ hood, grill, and fender from lining up?

ifs its just to wide then narrow the TJ hood/grill and make custom fenders.

if the hoods to narrow widen it at the cowl but narrow it up towards the grill so that you can keep a factory TJ grill

samb.  the hoods are the same width its the body molding in the center of the TJ hood that dosen't match the CJ cowl and the curvature of the cowl that is steaper on the TJ hood that dosen't match the CJ.  Long story short the TJ hood sticks up about 3/4" taller in the curve than the CJ tub. ;D  Does that clear things up?


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Post by: dagimp31 on March 04, 2009, 10:12:33 PM
My vote:  CJ 8 tub,  Modified YJ hood and TJ grill.  Simple, cost effective and easily fixable/replaceable.  Plus with the right paint the old CJ8 tub can be just as bling as the AQUALU.(Although it is really pimp)  I have been looking at that Crawl mag for about a month or so and that green beast is so f-ing sweet.  Plus the whole premise of this build was to use an 8 tub and make it pimp shit.
Craig


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Post by: samb. on March 04, 2009, 11:41:02 PM
(http://www.ted-kyte.com/3D/Pictures/Sledge%20Hammer.jpg)

problem solved  ;D


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on March 05, 2009, 06:44:11 AM
NOW THAT IS FUNNY SAM.


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Post by: "Benny D" on March 05, 2009, 07:07:47 AM
The aqualu would probably be better advertisement for the shop.  It would also be less body work.  I don't think that you are going to flog either of them, but I think when you get a dent in the cowl (reaching for a beer while driving through some hardcore obstacle at 3 in the morning) it will be a little less devastating with the scrambler.


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Post by: skipfierce on March 05, 2009, 08:01:40 AM
I was thinking about this while taking a smoke break and think that while the Aqualu tub would be pretty bad ass, you already have the 8 tub and like Craig said, "Plus the whole premise of this build was to use an 8 tub and make it pimp shit."

My vote: CJ8 tub.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 05, 2009, 09:03:39 AM
HAHAHAHAHA now you all want me to save money lol  that's funny.  ;D ;D ;D Did you all know that the AQUALU tub weighs 355lbs.  and .156" THICK!!! thats more than 1/8" hmmmm just saying.  carry on.  Just throwing in some specs. ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: BarneyJEEP on March 05, 2009, 10:06:15 AM
it sure sounds to me like YOU want to run the aqualu...

if this rig is in fact being built as a "bill board" for moab, the sponsors, SEMA, etc...then you prolly should go with the aqualu...

how much does a factory "8" tub weigh?


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Post by: Skinny Cook on March 05, 2009, 10:38:53 AM

how much does a factory "8" tub weigh?

 Just a tad bit more than the Aqualu.  ;) With an LS1 it don't really matter.  ;D

  I have a different idea than all the others so far but have to check out some dimensions. Good thing I have both an LJ & CJ-8 in the driveway to help me measure.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 05, 2009, 11:29:21 AM
I really don't care which body this rig has I just think it'S hilarious that you all are actually concerned about the cost ;D lol.  Cost wasn't a factor on the drivetrain ;D ;D  On a serious note the AQUALU tub is less labor but more money.  The LJ tub advertises to more of Moab's customer base, and the Scambler tub needs a cowl, floor boards and rockers.  Either way dosen't matter to me there's already about 60,000.00 into this project and it needs about another 10,000.00 what's money got to do with ANY decision at this point. hahahahaha  ;D ;D ;D My personal feelings toward the build of this rig haven't really been involved.  Other than ALWAYS wanting a Scrambler.  Alum. or steel dosen't really matter.  I hated the TJ ft. clip, but now I love the TJ ft. clip idea that you all had because the TJ market is the majority of Moab's customers.  The easy way to do that is the AQUALU tub.  Eventhough I consider myself a CJ front clip type of guy. 

Now to get a little more in depth on the STEEL TUB.  I was planning on putting a new cowl on it because the one on it is warped really bad from the engine fire.  I planned on cutting out the floor pans, rocker panels, and part of the fire wall because they're rusted out.  So if you can invision a tube chassis with scrambler tub as skins.  The cage would be part of the chassis and the cowl, sides and tail gate would lift off in one piece.  Using alum. for the firewall and floor.

Now on the AQUALU tub.  There would be a chassis with a removable cage like a regular jeep.  Thus making the build a little less labor involved.

Either way dosen't matter to me.  However I've had alot of questions from our vendors that donated, if they could use the vehicle for advertisement so don't think that the steel tub will be built with any less attention to detail than the AQUALU tub. ;D

AND in response to BLACK JEEP thinking the rig won't get wheeled as hard if its alum.  HELL I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU ALL WILL LET ME NOT BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF IT ;D ;D ;D ;D

This is up to you all I'm just trying to make sure ALL the bases are covered before the final decision. ;D ;D   OHHH yeah the steel tub weighs about 460lbs.  Carry on ;)


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Post by: skipfierce on March 05, 2009, 12:42:34 PM
Well money aside I still think the 8 tub would be better. And screw the TJ front clip...keep it CJ all around. I just love the nostalgic look they have.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 05, 2009, 04:38:30 PM
Well being a Scrambler & an LJ owner I'm REALLY on the fence with this one.

 My heart says build the Scrambler for a number of reasons.

 The first reason being I have never seen a Scrambler body fitted to a tube chassis. That doesn't mean it hasn't been done, I just haven't seen one.

 The second reason being the uniqueness of the Scrambler to start with. Built Scramblers exude "cool" from their CJ souls.  ;D

 On the side of the LJ,

 One of the main objectives of the build is to appeal to Moab's customer base & help to shore up sales for newer model customer's custom builds. We have already seen this happen with a couple members on this forum.

 The second reason being, options for the newer TJ/LJ's are far beyond what was ever present for CJ/YJ's. OLD SCHOOL is cool but DANG a lifted/built LJ is a bitchin lookin ride.

 Like I said,,,,I'm on the fence.  ???   ;D

 


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Post by: KatKrahel on March 05, 2009, 05:15:42 PM
I say go with the Aqualu tub to showcase the newer tech. products for the LJ/TJ customer base.  This is not to discount the CJs and the big following, just keep in mind we are ALL about Jeeps;D  But if the purpose is to encourage more enthusiast, showcase vendor products and the skills of your shop, then you I think you need to cater to the newer product lines.  This may encourage additional sales for your shop and ultimately the vendors who are helping with the build (donations/discounts).

Take me for instance!  You guys got me up to speed with all the new products since I had gotten out of Jeepin' when the kids were born ('93 YJ).  But now that I have a Jeep again (TJ) and have see all the new products and capabilities that come with it, I'm upgrading (as you know :D). You are the ones (along with those I've wheeled with) that have made that happen.  Isn't that what you are driving for ???


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Post by: "Benny D" on March 05, 2009, 05:22:43 PM
I hear ya big balla....  I retract my previous statement - - lets build the aluma beast!  But you better believe we are not going to let you pussy foot around out on the trails. ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on March 05, 2009, 05:24:06 PM
oh - - I guess I didn't say it - - my vote is now for the aqualu tub. 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 05, 2009, 07:26:22 PM
OK, I vote for Aqualu too.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on March 05, 2009, 08:54:37 PM
I really don't care which body this rig has I just think it'S hilarious that you all are actually concerned about the cost ;D lol.  Cost wasn't a factor on the drivetrain ;D ;D 
 


that is because for %90 of the wheeling community a beautiful jeep that WORKS is not an option, it's either look good or wheel it!!  if it were up to me i would put most of my money in the drivetrain and run the beater style (function over form!)  most of us are living vicariously thru you, putting all this cash into this wicked rig that can never be ours...  i know whichever way you go it's going to be beautiful, but i still say the 8 tub just cuz that's how i roll.


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Post by: Uncle Jeremy on March 05, 2009, 09:58:33 PM
Personal Opinion...
   I love Aqualu products, and you and I have discussed the Aluminum tub many of times. However, I really like the Idea of the Steel tub skins, Alum. Floor and Fire wall & Tube chasis.  That being said it is more work, this whole build is more work.  I think that the aluminum is sweet but you are the old skool cat with skulls and cross bones with the wild Manglesnake, and we all know you love that, the only complaints I've heard compared to the TJ is the ride and creature comforts which is being carried by the C/O's and 4 link and those Sexy PRP Seats, speaking of seats that is another issue width wise easily addressed on the steel tub being able to alter width and or interior room easier.  But hell what do I know... ;)

How bout another wild card...
  Aqualu all CJ NO TJ Front Clip


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: dagimp31 on March 05, 2009, 10:00:31 PM
I say go with the Aqualu tub to showcase the newer tech. products for the LJ/TJ customer base.  This is not to discount the CJs and the big following, just keep in mind we are ALL about Jeeps;D  But if the purpose is to encourage more enthusiast, showcase vendor products and the skills of your shop, then you I think you need to cater to the newer product lines.  This may encourage additional sales for your shop and ultimately the vendors who are helping with the build (donations/discounts).

Take me for instance!  You guys got me up to speed with all the new products since I had gotten out of Jeepin' when the kids were born ('93 YJ).  But now that I have a Jeep again (TJ) and have see all the new products and capabilities that come with it, I'm upgrading (as you know :D). You are the ones (along with those I've wheeled with) that have made that happen.  Isn't that what you are driving for ???
Great point!  I retract my previous post and now vote to go Aqualu!!  Shit it's not my money, and you'll make more tomorrow.  :D
Craig


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 05, 2009, 10:08:22 PM
Personal Opinion...
   I love Aqualu products, and you and I have discussed the Aluminum tub many of times. However, I really like the Idea of the Steel tub skins, Alum. Floor and Fire wall & Tube chasis.  That being said it is more work, this whole build is more work.  I think that the aluminum is sweet but you are the old skool cat with skulls and cross bones with the wild Manglesnake, and we all know you love that, the only complaints I've heard compared to the TJ is the ride and creature comforts which is being carried by the C/O's and 4 link and those Sexy PRP Seats, speaking of seats that is another issue width wise easily addressed on the steel tub being able to alter width and or interior room easier.  But hell what do I know... ;)

 
  OK, after reading this I switchback to Old School, Pipe, & Skins.  :o   ;D

 Max we talked about this,,,,I say do what I was saying and just get a dang custom made top. Hell the rest of it's custom, why not a top too ? 

 More than one way to skin a Scrambler ! LMAO !



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on March 06, 2009, 04:49:04 AM
if money really is no issue than go with the aquala alum tub so it can truly be called the alumabeast, it will make it easier labor wise, until you go to change something than you need to do special welding but im sure you can handle that


go alumabeast  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on March 06, 2009, 06:10:54 AM
as long as it has those kick ass 7" ROUND Cibie headlights, with some 6000k HID bulbs....we good


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on March 06, 2009, 06:50:31 AM
This is funny as hell - - we don't know what the hell to do!!!! LMFAO!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 06, 2009, 07:45:28 AM
This is funny as hell - - we don't know what the hell to do!!!! LMFAO!!!!!

no joke hahahhahahahha when you all get it figured out let me know ;)   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 06, 2009, 08:06:46 AM
just re-read and tallied up the responses as it stands EVERYONE is for the ALUMABEAST except 3J7, SmokeyJeep, and Skipfierce.  does that sound right  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Brian on March 06, 2009, 08:10:01 AM
How bout another wild card...
  Aqualu all CJ NO TJ Front Clip

Yep....I vote this one too. I just didn't wanna be the first to say it! haha
I think that would be way cool. "As I understand it", Max is known throughout the community as the hold out to the old school CJ - I think it just flows with his already well established notoriety on the local off roading scene. In these times that we are living in - to me - THIS is unique and different - because of the old school aspect.
Aqualu, all CJ, no TJ clip, just my 2 cents..... 8)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on March 06, 2009, 09:10:15 AM
just re-read and tallied up the responses as it stands EVERYONE is for the ALUMABEAST except 3J7, SmokeyJeep, and Skipfierce.  does that sound right  ??? ??? ???

Doesn't sound like you will get an unanimous decision from this group :-X  Too many creative thinkers :D  However, you gave everyone an opportunity to voice their opinions and you do have a majority vote. ;)

Perhaps it is time to get out of this Analysis Paralysis and make a decision. 8)

Either way, you are going to have a Kick Ass Ride that no one can dispute. :o  I'm sure we will all be a little jealous about some aspect, if not the whole damn thing.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on March 06, 2009, 09:20:54 AM
The front clip makes no differnce to me - - tj/cj - - it will be sick either way.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Uncle Jeremy on March 06, 2009, 10:50:06 AM
we've got a new member I bet they'll have something to say.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 06, 2009, 11:52:55 AM
This is funny as hell - - we don't know what the hell to do!!!! LMFAO!!!!!

 AMEN BROTHA !!!  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 06, 2009, 11:59:45 AM
we've got a new member I bet they'll have something to say.

  I JUST saw that Jeremy. Welcome to the site Aqualu.  :)
 
 

 OK, my final deal is what Brian just posted. Aqualu all CJ is my vote

  Where's my drink,,,I'm off the fence.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 06, 2009, 12:06:51 PM
I think TJ front clip w/ Gen-Right highline fenders and a A.E.V. heat reduction hood. ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on March 06, 2009, 12:20:29 PM
I have never seen those hoods max - pretty cool stuff!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Aqualu on March 06, 2009, 12:25:38 PM
Hey guys, Todd here at Aqualu.  I've been following along on this post and wanted to tell you all the options we have to choose from:

1)    TJ Windshield Frame & TJ Hood
2)    TJ Windshield Frame & CJ Hood
3)    CJ Windshield Frame & TJ Hood
4)    CJ Windshield Frame & CJ Hood



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Brian on March 06, 2009, 12:38:27 PM
Where's my drink,,,I'm off the fence.  ;D
Ha! You and me both! Feels good don't it? ::)
Thanks for joining us Todd!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 06, 2009, 12:42:50 PM
I think TJ front clip w/ Gen-Right highline fenders and a A.E.V. heat reduction hood. ;D ;D ;D

 Smart idea on the heat reduction hood there Max. Since Aluminum transfers heat sooo efficiently you are gonna need it.  :o  :o   ;)

 OK, so it's a CJ-8 tub & windshield with a TJ frt clip/Gen-Right fenders & AEV hood ???

 Sounds good to me. You got it built yet ?  :o  :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on March 06, 2009, 12:55:57 PM
hahahhahaahah  Carter you are as bad as I am - - Ok I agree with carter and max - -aqualu tub tj clip heat reduction hood....


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 06, 2009, 01:17:03 PM
OK, so it's a CJ-8 tub & windshield with a TJ frt clip/Gen-Right fenders & AEV hood ???


yep you got it!!!!!!  That's my 2 cents. 

    Welcome aboard Todd thanks for joining!!!! have you got any pics of the custom CJ-2A/CJ-7 jeep you did for scott frary at detroit locker?  I probably spelled his last name wrong.  But it was the one that had orange paint and polished tub.  It was a custom cowl build wasen't it?  I wheeled with him at EJS about 3yrs ago and fell in love with your product line.  The quality and craftsmanship is amazing.  Anyhow looks like your tub is winning the vote!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

this is the only pic I have from EJS.  ;)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/Picture199.jpg)

-Max


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 06, 2009, 01:24:00 PM
Nice ride !  I love the paint scheme too.   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on March 06, 2009, 01:49:41 PM
This is funny as hell - - we don't know what the hell to do!!!! LMFAO!!!!!

no joke hahahhahahahha when you all get it figured out let me know ;)   ;D ;D ;D

Sheesh! I'm worn out just after reading all of that. But, looks like a direction is finally being taken! How exciting?!?!?  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on March 06, 2009, 01:56:24 PM
i think you should just give me all the parts and i will squirrel them all away until a decission is made.  none of them will find their way under my heep, i swear!!(pay no attention to the cuts in the sidewall)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Aqualu on March 06, 2009, 02:02:54 PM
I've forwarded some images your way Max...   :)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 06, 2009, 03:03:58 PM
I've forwarded some images your way Max...   :)


Thanks Todd, Everyone check out the ft. clip on this CJ-7 Aqualu tub. :o :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/GetAttachmentCACDJWX1.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/GetAttachmentCAGKNMJI.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on March 06, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
tj grill, tj windshield, aev highline, auqualu cj8 tub, halftop or "fastback" style top.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on March 06, 2009, 07:46:38 PM
just go ahead and go with a YJ hood/grill with the aquala tub and have a LWB YJ  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 07, 2009, 06:26:40 AM
just go ahead and go with a YJ hood/grill with the aquala tub and have a LWB YJ  ;D

I know its hip to be square, but I think Round headlights only  ;D

and for barny jeep I'm gonna check on the fast back top that VIKING OFFROAD   makes and see if Thor can make a custom one ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on March 07, 2009, 06:41:06 AM
rock on (ha ha...rock on..."i made a funny")


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 07, 2009, 08:24:12 PM
Man that CJ3 frt clip on a CJ7 is one beautimus ride !  ;)

 Max, maybe you should do a CJ3 on a CJ8 tub ?   :o  :o  ;D 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 08, 2009, 11:47:41 AM
that would be kinda pimp. ;D ;D  but I like the A.E.V. heat reduction TJ hood and Gen-Right High line fenders With the wire mesh vents on the sides like in the drawing.  Kinda mixing OLD school with NEW school ;) ;) and hell IF we're not gonna use the Steel tub I'm thinking bout using it on the red CJ ;D ;D ;D  Then I have 2 CJ-8's  one for blingin' and bashin' and the other for just bashing!!!! :D :D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on March 09, 2009, 06:42:40 AM


I know its hip to be square, but I think Round headlights only  ;D


Damn it man! Now I'm gonna have that damn Huey Lewis song stuck in my head the rest of the day!



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 09, 2009, 06:43:31 AM
skip you crack me up. ;D :D

Barney Jeep just sent me this hahahhahahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_byVtHrGEM


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on March 09, 2009, 11:47:55 AM
 :P ;) ;) ;D




Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on March 10, 2009, 04:05:40 PM
rock on (ha ha...rock on..."i made a funny")


lol....

Sounds like this thing is pretty much wrapped up!  ;) :P Can we start talking about accessories??  ;D
http://www.hornblasters.com/video.php?pic=43


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on March 10, 2009, 07:08:20 PM
rock on (ha ha...rock on..."i made a funny")


lol....

Sounds like this thing is pretty much wrapped up!  ;) :P Can we start talking about accessories??  ;D
[url]http://www.hornblasters.com/video.php?pic=43[/url]



YES


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on March 11, 2009, 06:39:24 AM
rock on (ha ha...rock on..."i made a funny")


lol....

Sounds like this thing is pretty much wrapped up!  ;) :P Can we start talking about accessories??  ;D
[url]http://www.hornblasters.com/video.php?pic=43[/url]


Kick ass. Kuehl's friend Greg has one like that on his school bus that they take to UK games. It's real fun when tailgating in the parking lot as my dad's band plays on the roof.  You definately need one of these on the rig!

(http://www.skipfierce.com/forum/gallery/1_09_01_09_4_55_24_2.jpeg)

(http://www.skipfierce.com/forum/gallery/1_09_01_09_4_51_48_9.jpeg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 11, 2009, 09:04:22 AM
hahahahahhahahahhaha that is hilarious!!!!! I love that bus! 8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 18, 2009, 07:23:40 AM
THE CURRIE FAB 9 AXLES ARE IN!!!!!!!!!!! PICS WON'T DO THEM JUSTICE YOU ALL HAVE TO COME UP HERE AND SEE THESE IN PERSON!!!!!!!!  :o :o :o  I CAN'T THANK THE CURRIE GUYS ENOUGH.  THEY REALLY OUT DID THEMSELVES!

We are super busy and haven't had a chance to upload some much needed pics hopefully today or tomorrow!! ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 18, 2009, 06:35:26 PM
I can attest to the BLING factor !!!

 I was over there cookin Brats simmered in Beer and had to wear shades to keep the glare down.

 Those puppies are PIMP WHEEL shiny !  :o   ;D  ;D 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on March 19, 2009, 07:10:11 AM
I'll have to come check those out soon.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: g.schucks on March 20, 2009, 04:55:28 PM
I have to come by the shop to see some of this loot piling up... Max you don't have the S/N's on these thing wrote down or anthing do you???


g.schucks


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 23, 2009, 08:11:39 AM
wrote them down on my note pad next to my smith & wesson.   ;D ;D :o


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on March 23, 2009, 09:04:51 AM
wrote them down on my note pad next to my smith & wesson.   ;D ;D :o

we good then...if it was a glock, i'd be scared... :o


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 23, 2009, 09:18:16 AM
wrote them down on my note pad next to my smith & wesson.   ;D ;D :o

we good then...if it was a glock, i'd be scared... :o

  I wouldn't be scared,,,,he doesn'teven know how to load it. LMAO  ;D  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on March 23, 2009, 10:51:06 AM
wrote them down on my note pad next to my smith & wesson.   ;D ;D :o

we good then...if it was a glock, i'd be scared... :o

  I wouldn't be scared,,,,he doesn'teven know how to load it. LMAO  ;D  ;)

Zing!  :D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on March 23, 2009, 03:30:51 PM
saw them currie 9's today and WOW i want but cant afford  :(


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on March 24, 2009, 03:55:36 PM
You need to post some pics of those crazy axles before I come BeDazzle them!  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on March 24, 2009, 04:27:54 PM
You need to post some pics of those crazy axles before I come BeDazzle them!  ;D

I can just picture the pink and purple rhinestones all over the axles and perhaps some sparkle glitter. :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepRocks86 on March 25, 2009, 07:55:20 AM
bigger cow bell and truck nuts.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on March 25, 2009, 03:38:55 PM
You need to post some pics of those crazy axles before I come BeDazzle them!  ;D


I can just picture the pink and purple rhinestones all over the axles and perhaps some sparkle glitter. :P


You better be careful! I'm just not sure if all of that aluminum is going to be shiny enough for me....  ;D

(BTW, apparently that's real diamonds covering that Benz... Not just glitter paint.  :o )

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n160/Kalico13/diamond_covered_mercedes_sl_.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on March 25, 2009, 04:13:12 PM
I saw that before.  Some Arab has multiple cars and that is just one of them with diamonds all over.  Guess there is some $$$ in oil farming...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 26, 2009, 02:49:39 PM
Okay here's the bling!!!!!!

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/Picture001.jpg)

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/Picture004.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/Picture002.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/Picture003.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/Picture005.jpg)

 :o :o :oThanks again to CURRIE for all that they have donated!!! :o :o :o


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 26, 2009, 04:48:05 PM
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/aev_corporate_logo.jpg)


Well we have another GREAT vendor on board......  A.E.V.   (American Expedition Vehicles)    I'm sure that everyone on our forum knows who they are and what they do.... RIGHT?  well if NOT here's there website  http://www.aev-conversions.com/  Just to give you an idea they do everything from the high end Nth degree suspension  http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/nthdegree_tj/, found on my TJ to their Brute conversion  http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/highline/, HEMI engine conversions  http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/jk_hemi/, High line fender kits  http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/highline/, bumpers http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/jk_bumper/, Snorkle http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/jk_snorkel/, ProCal http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/procal_module/, Wheels   http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/wheels/,   just to name a few of their products and options. ;) ;D ;) 

And here's what their sending.........

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/Img4139_d.jpg)

 :o :o :o Their Heat Reduction Hood    :o :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/Img4143_d.jpg)

If you all have been following the Tomb Raider Build in the TJ section http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=231.msg3344#msg3344 then you have already seen it.  IF NOT THEN STOP BY AND CHECK OUT THE ATTN. TO DETAIL THIS PRODUCT HAS!!!!!

Thanks again to Chris Wood and the rest of the team at A.E.V. for helping me understand the difference between the CJ/TJ cowl and making this build become a reality through wonderful Vendors that we need to support!!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 26, 2009, 06:31:24 PM
Ahhh the Brute.  :o

 When I grow up I want to own one of those.  ;D

 I'd have one now if it wasn't for 2 kids in college.  :o  :o   :o   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on March 27, 2009, 09:32:55 AM
I love the aev product line - - they make some sweet stuff- - that hood is sweet!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on March 27, 2009, 12:55:55 PM
Very nice!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on March 27, 2009, 05:06:36 PM
wow...just..wow....axles, hood, wheels, tires....wow!!! very nice!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on April 03, 2009, 10:32:32 AM
So what was the final decision on the tub and front clip? I'm lazy and don't feel like sifting through the past pages to see if there was a decision made?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 05, 2009, 04:27:45 PM
So what was the final decision on the tub and front clip? I'm lazy and don't feel like sifting through the past pages to see if there was a decision made?

Aqualu CJ-8 tub with a CJ windshield frame and TJ cowl A.E.V. hood and GEN-RIGHT hi-line tube fenders, and a CJ-8 BESTOP super-top.   ;D

sorry I haven't updated this thread lately.  I've got some more product and sponsors to get on here this week so stay tuned. ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on April 07, 2009, 06:14:07 AM
Sounds good!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on April 14, 2009, 05:54:20 AM
Max, do you know when you might be seeing this tub? Are there any plans to polish it?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 14, 2009, 06:32:11 AM
paint on the front and polish in the rear.  I got another sponsor involved and I'm gonna try to post some pics today.... so stayed tuned!!!!    ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on April 14, 2009, 06:35:28 AM
you planning on polishing yourself?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on April 14, 2009, 12:01:26 PM
you planning on polishing yourself?

 You lookin for extra work or what ? :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 14, 2009, 05:30:30 PM
you planning on polishing yourself?

 You lookin for extra work or what ? :P

maybe unless you volunteer :P :P :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 14, 2009, 06:13:58 PM
Well we got a new sponsor on some much needed axle parts!!!!! Kevin at RANDY'S RING AND PINION donated 2 YUKON GEAR   1350 FORGED YOAKS AND SUPER JOINTS FOR THE FRONT AXLE SHAFTS!!!!!  :o :o :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/yukon001.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/yukon002.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/yukon003.jpg)

THEY DID DONATE THIS TOO....  BUT I THOUGHT YOU ALL WOULD DIG THE PARTS BETTER, SO I SENT IT BACK   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)




(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/April_800.jpg)

THANKS AGAIN TO RANDY AND KEVIN FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THROUGH THE YEARS!! 



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on April 14, 2009, 07:05:31 PM
Hmmm wonder if she likes ribs ?   :o   ;D 

 Nice stuff Max. RANDY'S IS A CLASS ACT.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on April 15, 2009, 05:57:25 AM
I'll take the redhead!  :o BOO YAH!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on April 15, 2009, 06:08:54 AM
I'll take the redhead!  :o BOO YAH!!!

I'll take the sloppy seconds...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on April 15, 2009, 10:26:53 AM
I'll take the redhead!  :o BOO YAH!!!

I'll take the sloppy seconds...

LMAOO   :o  :o  ;D 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 15, 2009, 11:56:36 AM
I'll take the redhead!  :o BOO YAH!!!

I'll take the sloppy seconds...

LMAOO   :o  :o  ;D 


Glad to see I got a rise out of you guys.......   ;D ;D ;D  RISE? :o  Gross!  :o


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Post by: Skinny Cook on April 15, 2009, 12:36:39 PM
I'll take the redhead!  :o BOO YAH!!!

I'll take the sloppy seconds...

LMAOO   :o  :o  ;D 


Glad to see I got a rise out of you guys.......   ;D ;D ;D  RISE? :o  Gross!  :o

 WHOAAA !!!  TMI !!!  :o  :o  :o  ;D


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Post by: skipfierce on April 16, 2009, 06:25:12 AM
I'll take the redhead!  :o BOO YAH!!!

I'll take the sloppy seconds...

LMAOO   :o  :o  ;D 


Glad to see I got a rise out of you guys.......   ;D ;D ;D  RISE? :o  Gross!  :o

Heh heh heh heh.....yeah...I'm pitchin' a tent.


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Post by: "Benny D" on April 21, 2009, 09:08:00 AM
UHH - - hermans a squrmin'


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 09, 2009, 02:33:08 PM
I'm sure everyone know the current situation at the shop... :-\...   We're busy on the Tomb Raider Build http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=231.msg3730#msg3730  however the build is gonna start as soon as that one is done!!!!!!!  I promise!!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: NickB on May 14, 2009, 02:05:40 PM
we cant wait!!!!! 8)


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 20, 2009, 09:47:44 AM
WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I JUST DROVE THE A.E.V. HEMI 4 DOOR JK!!!!!!!!!!!  I'LL POST PICS IN A LIL' BIT.   [/b]   ;D ;D


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Post by: g.schucks on May 20, 2009, 10:16:56 AM
PICS NOW!!!!!


g.schucks


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 20, 2009, 11:26:18 AM
PICS NOW!!!!!


g.schucks


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/aev_corporate_logo.jpg)


Okay so here's how it all went down.  I get a call from Dave Yegge at A.E.V.   He says he's stopping bye to let me flog the bejesus out of their HEMI powered 4 door.  (that is when I got so excited I pee'd a little!)   ;D   He stopped by this morning with this thing.............

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/AEV001.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/AEV002.jpg)

Then I drove it over to Cross (the dealer in our back yard that we build jeeps for).  Let me tell you all........  I know what I want for X-Mas  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  This thing had their Nth Degree suspension (like what is on my TJ), Ft. bumper, wheels, Heat reduction hood, and the NEW Goodyear MTR's.   TALK ABOUT POWER.......  HEMI IN A JK!!!!  WHEW!  I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA PUSH THE GAS PEDAL THROUGH THE FLOOR!  HOLY CRAP THAT THING GETS UP AND GOES!!!!!  ENOUGH TALK HERE'S SOME MORE PICS....   :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/AEV003.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/AEV004.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/AEV005.jpg)

Look at how the HEMI looks factory.  The A.E.V. HEMI conversion kit includes: New alum. radiator and overflow tank, new A/C lines, new air filter mount, new battery mount, motor mounts, custom 3" exhaust made by flowmaster, and wiring harness, all for the low price of 5K!!!!!  All you need to supply is a HEMI and tranny  ;D  Did I also mention that there is NO wire splicing????? thats right it's plug-N-play, and ALL the factory guages work!!!!!!  How cool is this???????  I'm also taking orders  ;) ;) ;) ;D

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/AEV006.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/AEV007.jpg)

Then after I drove this thing and gave it all I thought it had.  Dave scared the life out of me.   ;D ;D ;D  He brought the JK up to cruising speed (45-50mph) then out of no where did an abrupt lane change that should have barrel rolled us into the on comming traffic followed by another lane change, and another......  With a lil' pee in my pants, cramps in my fingers from being white knuckled, and a smile from ear to ear.  The HEMI JK handled like a sports car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  My hats off to the team at A.E.V.

One last Pic I had Dave pose by the Heat reduction TJ hood that they donated for our build.  CHEERS!!!!  ;D ;D

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/AEV008.jpg)


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Post by: skipfierce on May 20, 2009, 11:31:35 AM
Hell yeah! Nice pics.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on May 21, 2009, 05:45:00 AM
DANG I wish I would have seen that.  8)

Ain't no substitution for cubic inches.  ;D

 Sooooo I'm thinkin that Bill's next mod needs to be the Hemi ?????????  :o ;D :o ;D


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Post by: KatKrahel on May 21, 2009, 06:15:49 AM
DANG I wish I would have seen that.  8)

Ain't no substitution for cubic inches.  ;D

 Sooooo I'm thinkin that Bill's next mod needs to be the Hemi ?????????  :o ;D :o ;D

Smokey, I like your thinking ;D  Max and I did discuss but will have to postponed until a later time.  I've been going through withdrawl with these beautiful days to be cruising with the top and doors off... :'(  Let alone out on the trails.  My Memorial Day won't be as memorable as those going to Natural Bridge.  You guys will have an AWESOME time.

But Hemi is definitely a possiblity next year once Obama has the economy straightened out and at an all time high with NO unemployement. :o  Perhaps Socialism will be full bore and everyone with have one...  He did state he was the Automotive CEO of the year.  Hell, he is even the Banking CEO of the year.  He is the man... :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 21, 2009, 07:36:43 AM
Yep,,,GM,,,Goverment Motors.  :o  ::) 

  Hell maybe I'll run acrossed a deal on a Hemi and put one in the Scrambourbon.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 21, 2009, 08:25:23 AM
yep that REALLY made me want a 4 door more than I already do.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on May 28, 2009, 10:00:17 AM
I heard that was in the next stimulus package - - - there will be a hemi in every pot!  LOL!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 28, 2009, 10:15:58 AM
hahahahaha Hemi in a 4 door JK sweet.   

but an LS-1 for this thread!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on May 28, 2009, 12:27:31 PM
i'll take an ls1 over a hemi every time... ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: NickB on June 15, 2009, 08:04:23 PM
i'll take an ls1 over a hemi every time... ;D

x2


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on June 17, 2009, 06:37:19 AM
Max - - any word on the tub?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 17, 2009, 08:27:53 AM
Max - - any word on the tub?

Yes.  It has been ordered!!! looking at about 6-8 weeks...   ;D  and the KMC wheels showed up!! I'll be posting up pics real soon!!!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 04, 2009, 10:45:33 AM
So I've been playing around with some diff. colors....  what do you all think about this??????????

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/greenalumabeast.jpg)

Kind of an O.D. green, with an orange pinstripe around the flames to match the Moab logo, powder coat the wheels black and polish the beadlock rings.

and maybe these guages?  :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/guages.jpg)

we could call it the "BOMBER"????    :-\ :-\  and do some fun logo's???

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moabbomb.jpg)

lol.  let me know if I've fallen off the deep end???   ;) ;)


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Post by: KatKrahel on July 04, 2009, 11:15:16 AM
Love the pin-up bomber girl logo ;D


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Post by: NickB on July 04, 2009, 05:33:15 PM
the bomber haha love it. and also much easier to spit out than the alumabeast. 

its da bomb dogg


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 05, 2009, 07:00:57 AM
nissan had an OD color on the Xterra that I've always liked alot.  ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on July 05, 2009, 10:11:02 AM
Im diggin it - - the bomber theme throughout would be really cool - you could have the rivets, bolts and seams in the sheet metal (of the airplane) in the paint job.  Here is some inspiration.


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Post by: Skinny Cook on July 05, 2009, 11:21:31 AM
Great color Max ! I also love the old style gauges !

 The Bomber logo is very cool but I think it takes away from your door MOAB logo. 


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Post by: skipfierce on July 06, 2009, 05:41:10 AM
I like it!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 06, 2009, 05:42:18 PM
What do you all think about the wheels being satin black powder coat?? and polished rings??


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 06, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
What do you all think about the wheels being satin black powder coat?? and polished rings??

 I like them that way.

 Back to the "Bomb" logo,,,,,How about putin it on the tailgate ?? That way you only have to produce it once and it leaves room for sponsor logos in a prime area ?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on July 06, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
What do you all think about the wheels being satin black powder coat?? and polished rings??

black wheels w/ polished rings would look Goooood


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 06, 2009, 06:37:34 PM
the bomber pin-up girl is just there to get the "theme" across to you guys we don't have to use it at all....  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 06, 2009, 08:01:19 PM
the bomber pin-up girl is just there to get the "theme" across to you guys we don't have to use it at all....  ;D

 Gezzz yell at me why don't ya ?  :P  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 07, 2009, 06:38:13 AM
so how bout the guages????????? they're made by classic instuments.  http://www.classicinstruments.com/index.aspx?documentID=home (http://www.classicinstruments.com/index.aspx?documentID=home)   ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on July 07, 2009, 07:06:16 AM
Gauges look pretty cool.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 07, 2009, 01:32:23 PM
I LOVE THE GAUGES !!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 07, 2009, 02:15:13 PM
they can do custom colors for the #'s flat, convex or concave glass lens....  the list goes on and on. 8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Michael 95XJ on July 10, 2009, 07:54:21 PM
I love the bomber scheme! :o :o :o  When's tub coming in?!?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 11, 2009, 06:29:59 AM
6-8 Weeks  :o 8) :o 8)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 13, 2009, 06:32:11 PM
So has anyone seen a magazine called Overland Journal?????  check this out http://www.overlandjournal.com/ (http://www.overlandjournal.com/) Thor from Viking offroad just sent me 2 copies.  It is a very well written mag. on expedition style wheeling.  stop bye the shop to check them out. 

      I've been dancing around the net for the last couple months getting some ideas for the rig and stumbled across some really cool stuff that I'm going to incorporate into the scrambler.  I think that a removable storage box that fits where the rear seat goes is a must for locking up tools and such.  A rear seat is a must.  I never had a rear seat till my TJ and the Diesel dog loves it. (not that the 2 will be used at the same time.)  I also would like to make a spot for water storage for the dawg and overheating jeeps like the last time I wheeled we had one in our group that used 1 gal. out of my jerry can and my CJ could have use some at Harlan in march.  I also love the ARB freezer fridge so I'll be trying to find a spot for it.  Now onto the roof I've got a slick idea for a slim line roof rack I saw on a buggy a while back. also on the Silver toy.  I built a few years ago I put 1 1/16" tubing into the top bed cage to attach Yakima rack accessories to.  http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=326.0 (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=326.0) there in ft. and back of the basket.  So I'm thinking about doing the same thing on this cage to haul my kayak's, mtn. bike, or whatever.    Kelly suprised me for our anniversary and got me this for the interior.  When we talked earlier in this thread someone suggested this GPS and it is sick!!! It's the Magellan Crossover.

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/0623090922b_320050.jpg)
 ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: peej23 on July 14, 2009, 06:21:03 AM
I've seen overland journal somewhere?

whatever happened to the camel trophy? (not the porn)

I can't see the GPS here at work but I bet it is cool!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 14, 2009, 08:09:08 AM
Custom custom custom !!!  It's all good.  ;D

 Roof rails are a great idea. Super handy for trips.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on July 15, 2009, 08:17:53 AM
Max I'm thinking you need to do a 4x4 reality show, make millions, then get lost in one of those expedition vehicles ??  ;D 

 I can show you ALOT of trails out west. Are we gone yet ??   :o  ;D 

   


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 27, 2009, 05:38:54 PM
Hey Bad Hair day

The magellan crossover is the bomb. I have a couple freinds that have them and they totally love em. The nice thing is that they are very portable!!!!

Just me .02 cents.

Brother from a northern mother.



I thought someone suggested this.  :D  it was one of my best friends in WA Jim. lol.  ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 11, 2009, 01:33:16 PM
Just talked to Todd at Aqualu  last week and the Tub is gonna start getting "tacked" together today  :o ;D :o  Maybe we'll get some pics of it getting put together.   8)  Cheers to ANOTHER great sponsor!


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/aqualulogo.jpg)




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Post by: g.schucks on August 12, 2009, 06:13:38 AM
SWEEEEET!!!


g.schucks


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on August 12, 2009, 07:04:44 AM
Very cool. Would love to see those pics.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 21, 2009, 03:29:59 PM
I just got this in my email...  Hope you guys didn't forget about this build????  lol. I haven't.  Here are the pics!!!

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/alumtub.jpg)

Notice the TJ cowl...  Just like you asked for.  ;)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/4.jpg)

How about the boat side rockers?????  And the high rear inner fenders?
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/3.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/1.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/2.jpg)

We're getting alot closer.

A BIG thanks goes out to Todd and the gang at Aqualu Industries this is the biggest part of the build and it couldn't happen without their support!!!


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Post by: KatKrahel on August 21, 2009, 03:48:32 PM
Looking GOOOOOD! 8)  Can't wait to see more


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on August 23, 2009, 12:18:01 PM
That's pimp right there

ARRRGGGG


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on August 23, 2009, 02:56:33 PM
That's pimp right there

ARRRGGGG

Definitely BLING BLING 8)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on August 24, 2009, 06:56:36 AM
That tub is sick!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 24, 2009, 07:29:12 AM
we're getting alot closer!!!!!!!   ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: GotCruiser on August 24, 2009, 11:53:00 AM
SSSSWWWEEEEETTTTT!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KINGSIZE on August 25, 2009, 09:41:17 AM
Very nice!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on August 26, 2009, 07:49:26 AM
Can't wait to see it in the shop!!!



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on August 28, 2009, 08:14:32 AM
I can't wait to see it on the trail!!!   ;D :o ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on August 28, 2009, 10:14:11 AM
I can't wait to see it on the trail!!!   ;D :o ;D

seconded!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on September 06, 2009, 02:50:22 PM
I need a reminder, are you going to have rear steering?  Zero turn :o

JEEP HURICANE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV9LYdDeP74#normal)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: tcup on September 07, 2009, 02:42:52 AM
tcup here,

 love the gauges,love the aev hood,maybe a neon green pinstripe
around the flames on the tub?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 07, 2009, 06:32:37 AM
tcup here,

 love the gauges,love the aev hood,maybe a neon green pinstripe
around the flames on the tub?

Timmie Tim!!!!!!!!!!  bout time you got back on here!!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 07, 2009, 06:39:44 PM
tcup here,

 love the gauges,love the aev hood,maybe a neon green pinstripe
around the flames on the tub?

what do you think about Nissan X-terra OD green and viper green as the pinstripe????  no orange pinstripe, it matches the logo.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: tcup on September 08, 2009, 08:09:23 AM
that sounds cool,only i would do the od green in base/clear or a urethane 2k enamel,i'm pretty sure i'll be there by the time you get around to painting it.
that is if you don't already have someone else lined up to help you with the paint
work


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 16, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
has it REALLY been EIGHT DAYS since the last update?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 17, 2009, 08:18:29 PM
HAS IT?????  Sorry everyone. :-[  I guess I should tell you all about another GREAT sponsor to the build.  I've been trying to piece the rest of the front axle together.  If you've been following along you noticed that the housing is a CURRIE FAB9 with CURRIE Alum. 1 ton knuckles and Wilwood 4 piston calipers with vented disc brakes.  The center section is a TRUE-HI 9 with an ARB air locker and 5.13 gears.  The ft. axle U-joints were YUKON SUPERJOINTS donated by Randy's Ring & Pinion as were the YUKON 1350 Forged yoaks.

However nothing has been said about the axle shafts.  Let me introduce...


(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n160/Kalico13/superioraxle-logo.gif)
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n160/Kalico13/topmain-axles.jpg)

I talked to Mac McMillan about the project and he was more than happy to be a part of it and donated some 35 spline inner and outer ft. axle shafts.  Moab Offroad has been a dealer of Superior Axle and Gear for years now and its great to have them in our build.  Thanks Mac.  ;D


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Post by: Skinny Cook on September 17, 2009, 10:02:52 PM
WoW ! Nice stuff Superior.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 18, 2009, 03:00:34 AM
week of wheeling is getting really close, really fast....


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 18, 2009, 05:52:10 AM
week of wheeling is getting really close, really fast....

this rig won't make it but the Ghost Rider will be done in 2wks.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 18, 2009, 03:21:46 PM
HAVE I GOT A SUPRISE FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/7.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/GetAttachment.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/5.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/6.jpg)


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Post by: High Pockets on September 18, 2009, 04:17:29 PM

;)  I'll try to get pics posted later tonight.   ;D

3 days later.....STILL NO PICS

has it REALLY been EIGHT DAYS since the last update?

week of wheeling is getting really close, really fast....

Can you give a man a break?? Sheesh! I'd say he's doing amazing after what happened.... I've never seen anyone work so hard and much before in my life! He's AWESOME in my book!  ;) ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 18, 2009, 09:12:04 PM
Max does that have the body lip like the LJ for a soft top ?

 Looks good to me.  I really like the rockers.  ;)

 Now you just got to get it here.  :o  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 19, 2009, 08:43:31 AM
Max does that have the body lip like the LJ for a soft top ?

 Looks good to me.  I really like the rockers.  ;)

 Now you just got to get it here.  :o  ;D

it is the same dimensions as a scrambler so I'll be bolting rails to it for the soft-top.  8)

Todd at Aqualu just emailed those pics.  They should have it crated to ship late next week!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on September 20, 2009, 11:03:54 AM
OMG _ _ _ that is SICK!!!!!

Excelent choice on the axle selection - - superior shafts are good chit man!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 20, 2009, 04:57:55 PM
that tub gonna be here by thurs? Looks SICK btw!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 20, 2009, 06:31:40 PM
that tub gonna be here by thurs? Looks SICK btw!

prob. ship on thurs.  ;D  then about a 1 1/2 weeks.   :o


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepTatt on September 21, 2009, 06:09:07 AM
Sweet!!

Just curious...
What does that tub weigh?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 21, 2009, 06:41:30 AM
I'll know this week when they ship it..   ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 21, 2009, 07:36:55 AM
Sweet!!

Just curious...
What does that tub weigh?

 Good idea for a contest Tom !!   ;D

 My guess is 390#'s. (body only)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepTatt on September 21, 2009, 10:41:08 AM
Is this gonna be "Price is Right" style? Closest with out going over...

I'll say 290lbs.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on September 21, 2009, 10:52:33 AM
Damnit Carter! Damn close to what I want to say. How about a modified "Price is Right" style vote. You get to pic a whole 10 lb range. Because if I say 400 and someone says 401, I'll be pissed! So, I'm saying 365-375 lb. What do I win again?  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 21, 2009, 11:09:56 AM
I'll do a free oil change for closest without going over.  :o



(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/aqualulogo.jpg)

























ohhh yeah I think it is about 100lb. less than a factory tub but we'll see when they weigh it for shipping.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on September 21, 2009, 11:15:09 AM
Family guy - The price is right (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIu_Fivkr4Y#normal)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on September 21, 2009, 11:27:03 AM
Family guy - The price is right ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIu_Fivkr4Y#normal[/url])



No tips Max!! I've seen that video! LMAO! So true!!  ;D  Seriously. Who doesn't love Family Guy?? That's way off the subject but still. I don't think I'd care to be friends with anyone that doesn't.  ;) :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 21, 2009, 12:53:19 PM
skip what is your vote??


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on September 21, 2009, 01:12:33 PM
my guess is 620 lb shipping weight


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 21, 2009, 01:33:06 PM
Damnit Carter! Damn close to what I want to say. How about a modified "Price is Right" style vote. You get to pic a whole 10 lb range. Because if I say 400 and someone says 401, I'll be pissed! So, I'm saying 365-375 lb. What do I win again?  ??? ??? ???

 Shut up pockets !! OK,, my second choice says 376 lbs !!  LMAO  Take that you smarty britches kid.  :o  :P  :-*  ;D  ;D   JUST kiddin pockets,,,,,,I'm stickin with my original guess of 390.  :P

 Bob Barker deal,,,,whoever is closest WITHOUT going over is the winner,,,none of this 10pt spread BS !! I mean,,,are we using handgrenades ?? HELL NO,,,so no 10pt spread.  ::)  :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 21, 2009, 01:35:18 PM
Maxi you are mgmt so you are disqualified !!!  :P :-* ;D
 

 
I'll toss in a 20oz bottle of Cousin Moonbeam for the winner IF THEY drink.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 21, 2009, 01:37:50 PM
whoooo hooo you are talking SHIPPING WEIGHT RIGHT?   ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on September 21, 2009, 01:39:04 PM


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 21, 2009, 01:41:48 PM
whoooo hooo you are talking SHIPPING WEIGHT RIGHT?   ;)

 WEIGHT NOT COUNTING THE PALLET !!! BODY WEIGHT ONLY.  I better not catch somebody gettin the exact weight off their website either !!  ::)  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 21, 2009, 01:55:32 PM
I already told you it was 100lbs. less than a stock CJ-8 Jeep.....  I want shipping weight!!


All bets cleared the bidding starts now!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 21, 2009, 02:47:18 PM
I already told you it was 100lbs. less than a stock CJ-8 Jeep.....  I want shipping weight!!


All bets cleared the bidding starts now!!!!!!!!!!


 Gezzz ya just had to draw them a picture didn't ya ??   :P  I had a chance with all the blondes but you shot me down with the rest.  ;D  ;D

 I'm stickin with 390#'s.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepTatt on September 22, 2009, 05:58:33 AM
I'm gonna stay with my 290...

Hey Skip - That Family Guy clip you put on here was on TV last night at 9. LOL!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: peej23 on September 22, 2009, 06:06:14 AM
419 lbs


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: seejaystj on September 22, 2009, 06:55:53 AM
Will it come on a pallet wrapped in foam and shrink wrap or on a pallet wrapped in heavy duty cardboard with a wooden frame like a Curry shipment?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 22, 2009, 06:57:11 AM
Will it come on a pallet wrapped in foam and shrink wrap or on a pallet wrapped in heavy duty cardboard with a wooden frame like a Curry shipment?


that is what the guess is all about.  lol.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on September 22, 2009, 07:10:43 AM
425


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: seejaystj on September 22, 2009, 07:19:41 AM
275 lbs.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 22, 2009, 08:34:34 AM
shipping weight: 500 LBS


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 22, 2009, 08:45:05 AM
wow these are all over the board!!!   :o


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 22, 2009, 09:03:35 AM
390# - do i get a second guess? they do on PIR when everyone if over!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on September 22, 2009, 09:15:24 AM
Well, we have at least a week and a half right? So, last bets in by October 3 if it ships this Thursday? I'm holding my bet until then, but I think I'm going to win.... Max, just to be clear. We're guessing the weight of the tub, pallet and whatever they pack it with all together? Anything I'm missing?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 22, 2009, 11:03:28 AM
390# - do i get a second guess? they do on PIR when everyone if over!

 Hmmm,,, I already guessed 390#'s Barney. Look up ^^^  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 22, 2009, 12:26:45 PM
Well, we have at least a week and a half right? So, last bets in by October 3 if it ships this Thursday? I'm holding my bet until then, but I think I'm going to win.... Max, just to be clear. We're guessing the weight of the tub, pallet and whatever they pack it with all together? Anything I'm missing?

you got it!   ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 22, 2009, 12:49:03 PM
dangit...i new i missed something...355#  :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: txbear607 on September 22, 2009, 01:35:23 PM
I say 420#


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on September 22, 2009, 03:51:01 PM
#400 or so

Also if its shipping UPS I will see it before you do  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: tcup on September 22, 2009, 09:06:46 PM
hey max,you got any interest in trading that black jeep for a huge krl series snap on roll cab and top chest?its the 57 chevy bel air anniversary box,like brand new.i know its a long shot,just thought i'd try tho'


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 23, 2009, 06:26:01 AM
nahh  need da $$$$$$$$$$ :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 24, 2009, 03:44:18 PM
Does this help Todd at AQUALU just sent me this...  :o :o

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/GetAttachment-1.jpg)


FROM THIS POST ON IS YOU FINAL GUESS!!!!!! TO WIN A FREE OIL CHANGE AND SOME COUSIN MOONBEAM  :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on September 24, 2009, 03:45:43 PM
380#


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on September 24, 2009, 03:48:41 PM
I'm going with 410  And don't steal it either! You wouldn't believe the research and calculations I've sweated over coming up with that!  :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: txbear607 on September 24, 2009, 05:20:40 PM
423 lbs i got it


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on September 24, 2009, 05:22:26 PM
#400 give or take 5 lbs


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 24, 2009, 06:39:03 PM
 :o double secret probation guess' LOL 

  430#'s   


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: seejaystj on September 24, 2009, 07:47:59 PM
Final Answer:  345 lbs.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on September 25, 2009, 05:51:08 AM
I'm still saying 425.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepTatt on September 25, 2009, 11:14:41 AM
I'm still gonna stick with my 290...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on September 25, 2009, 01:55:08 PM
345#


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: rsiebert7 on September 25, 2009, 01:58:56 PM
it looks to be exactly 387LBS!  give or take an ounce or so.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 25, 2009, 02:05:19 PM


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 25, 2009, 02:10:54 PM
are we gonna wait till it gets here for me to tell you all or do you wanna know now??


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 25, 2009, 02:43:20 PM
are we gonna wait till it gets here for me to tell you all or do you wanna know now??

 Wait for it,,,wait for it,,,,  ;D  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 25, 2009, 03:24:02 PM
 ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BigD on September 25, 2009, 08:39:02 PM
417#


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 30, 2009, 10:31:30 AM
Guess what just showed up...

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub001.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub002.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub005.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub006.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub007.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub008.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub010.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub011.jpg)

Check out how they scribe on the fire wall where to cut for the steering column and brake master cylinder.   8)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub013.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub014.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepTatt on September 30, 2009, 10:33:56 AM
Come on!!
How much did it weigh?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on September 30, 2009, 10:41:58 AM
Here are the bets that I've been keeping track of.

Smokey Jeep  -430
Jeep Tatt    -290
HighPockets  -410
Peej23       -419
Skipfierce   -425
SeejaysTJ    -345
BarneyJeep   -380
TXbear       -423
SamB         -400
BigD         -417
Rsiebert     -387
KatKrahel    -???


anyone I'm missing???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on September 30, 2009, 10:54:01 AM


([url]http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub005.jpg[/url])



That looks like a heavy piece of wood! Can we get one of Lucas making faces at it??  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: rsiebert7 on September 30, 2009, 01:18:51 PM
What is Doug thinking in that picture?
A.  Damn this board is farting heavy.
B.  That logo is kinda funny.
C.  Son of a Beep. The toyota will never shine up like this tub!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on September 30, 2009, 07:31:58 PM
Or was it,,,,

"DANG that thing is blinding me from the reflection of the sun."  :o  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BarneyJEEP on October 01, 2009, 03:53:09 AM
the answer is "C"!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on October 01, 2009, 07:51:15 AM
the answer is "C"!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHHAAHAHA  DITTO!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: txbear607 on October 01, 2009, 06:24:49 PM
i agree C.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on October 01, 2009, 10:06:23 PM
Here are the bets that I've been keeping track of.

Smokey Jeep  -430
Jeep Tatt    -290
HighPockets  -410
Peej23       -419
Skipfierce   -425
SeejaysTJ    -345
BarneyJeep   -380
TXbear       -423
SamB         -400
BigD         -417
Rsiebert     -387
KatKrahel    -???


anyone I'm missing???


365


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on October 02, 2009, 08:05:36 AM
OKAY ALL BETS ARE IN...........   AND THE WEIGHT OF THE AQUALU BODY IS.......  (drum roll)


410 Lbs.   


(high pockets is exempt due to cheating!!!!)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on October 02, 2009, 08:16:20 AM
OKAY ALL BETS ARE IN...........   AND THE WEIGHT OF THE AQUALU BODY IS.......  (drum roll)


410 Lbs.   


(high pockets is exempt due to cheating!!!!)

THAT'S BULLSHIT!!!  >:(  FIRST of all! I actually did research! If you simply go to Aqualu's website, you can see a scrambler tub weighs 355lbs. And since Max's has uncut sides, I rounded it up to probably 370 or so. As you can see in my past posts!

Damnit Carter! Damn close to what I want to say. How about a modified "Price is Right" style vote. You get to pic a whole 10 lb range. Because if I say 400 and someone says 401, I'll be pissed! So, I'm saying 365-375 lb. What do I win again?  ??? ??? ???

And THEN Max said we had to include the shipping stuff, so I googled like crazy and some guy had weighed a 4x4 pallet and it weighed 22 something pounds. So, I figured the tub would need two of those and making sure I don't go over, my bet would have been 414! SO WHATEVER.....

But, then I figured..... Why not write Aqualu and ask them how the ship the tubs since we didn't know if it was enclosed or what.... (THERE WERE NEVER ANY RULES, BUTTHOLES!) So... maybe I formed a friendship that gave me some inside information. I'm sorry, but I was being resourceful! Thank you very much!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on October 02, 2009, 08:37:16 AM
The girlfriend ALREADY gets free oil changes....  PSHHHH!   ::)   :P   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jshaffer on October 02, 2009, 11:11:20 AM
Max, you better throw in a free tire rotation, oil and air filter too.  Oh yea, learn to say "Yes Dear!" 8)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on October 02, 2009, 12:37:53 PM
Pockets,,,you should be ashamed !!!

 IF you can't do the time,,,don't do the crime !!!  ;D

 Max I think you should tie her to the public gallows and give her 40 lashes. Naked of course !!  :o  :o  ;D  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on October 02, 2009, 12:56:16 PM
Pockets,,,you should be ashamed !!!

 IF you can't do the time,,,don't do the crime !!!  ;D

 Max I think you should tie her to the public gallows and give her 40 lashes. Naked of course !!  :o  :o  ;D  ;D


I'll do the time! Now give me my Moonbeam!!  :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on October 02, 2009, 01:25:00 PM
If it was closest without going over like stated in an earlier post and Pockets was Disq'd I win  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on October 02, 2009, 02:31:19 PM
If it was closest without going over like stated in an earlier post and Pockets was Disq'd I win  ;D

YOU WIN!!!!!   SAMB.



Max, you better throw in a free tire rotation, oil and air filter too.  Oh yea, learn to say "Yes Dear!" 8)


yes dear.    :-*
Pockets,,,you should be ashamed !!!

 IF you can't do the time,,,don't do the crime !!!  ;D

 Max I think you should tie her to the public gallows and give her 40 lashes. Naked of course !!  :o  :o  ;D  ;D

giggity!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on October 02, 2009, 06:12:50 PM
Hey now CONGRATS SAMB !!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on October 03, 2009, 12:12:49 PM
Sam I'll deliver your Moonbeam to Max next week. I'm out of town all this week.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on October 03, 2009, 04:06:57 PM
If you want ill swing by the shop with some wine while your there, If you still want to try it that is.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on October 03, 2009, 04:29:01 PM
If you want ill swing by the shop with some wine while your there, If you still want to try it that is.

Me me me me me me me! I like wine...    ;D







And Cousin Moonbeam, evil as he is..........   :-*


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on October 03, 2009, 06:50:19 PM
If you want ill swing by the shop with some wine while your there, If you still want to try it that is.

 Yep, that would be great ! Thanks !  ;D  I'll PM you the week after the French Lick JJ.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on October 03, 2009, 06:57:04 PM
If you want ill swing by the shop with some wine while your there, If you still want to try it that is.

Me me me me me me me! I like wine...    ;D


And Cousin Moonbeam, evil as he is..........   :-*

Your welcome to some as well if you want.

Yep, that would be great ! Thanks !  ;D  I'll PM you the week after the French Lick JJ.

Just let me know.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: samb. on October 03, 2009, 06:58:13 PM
Ok back on topic, Max what are the plans for the frame? Full tube? Box Tube? Modified Scrambler Frame?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on October 23, 2009, 11:11:55 AM
sorry samb I just saw this post I'm thinking about using a modified TJ frame.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Aqualu on December 04, 2009, 01:32:56 PM
Hey Max,

Any new updates on this build?    :P

Domineke
Aqualu Industries Inc.
www.aqualu.com (http://www.aqualu.com)
info@aqualu.com


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 06, 2009, 01:39:41 PM
Hey Max,

Any new updates on this build?    :P

Domineke
Aqualu Industries Inc.
[url=http://www.aqualu.com]www.aqualu.com[/url] ([url]http://www.aqualu.com[/url])
info@aqualu.com


 Hey Domineke can you make a CJ-6 body that will mount on a CJ-8 frame ?? Is that possible ?  ???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 06, 2009, 02:36:54 PM
as a matter of fact....   I'm waiting on a TJ frame to show up and then we'll start mocking all of the parts up.  :o  What do you all think about starting another thread for just the build??   ???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on December 06, 2009, 04:01:13 PM
Yes, I think that you should start a new thread for just the build with lots of pictures and your tech specs  8)  So what is the theme for your Build ???  Will it have a name?  Still thinking about the "Bomber" army green paint and old fashion gauges with a little pin-up girl on it???  Could do a little Rasta look and put long shag like carpet to hang off the roll cage to match your dreads or just do the interior with it (I'm sure you could find some somewhere... ha ha ha) :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 06, 2009, 04:31:12 PM
Alumabomberbeast.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 06, 2009, 05:52:14 PM
LMFAO!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 16, 2009, 08:19:24 AM
The frame will be here on Tuesday....  Then we're gonna get started.  Hope you all are ready!!!!  It is going to be a slam bang throw down to get this done by EJS!!!!   :o :o :o


;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on December 16, 2009, 08:58:28 AM
Good times! Can't wait to see some progress on this beast.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on December 21, 2009, 10:16:11 AM
Git r done!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 21, 2009, 01:04:03 PM
keep your fingers crossed....  frame should be here tomorrow.   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on December 28, 2009, 07:44:39 AM
So did the frame come in?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 28, 2009, 08:10:21 AM
The frame is in!!!!!   and we're gonna start on it this weekend I'll post some pics.   ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on December 28, 2009, 08:54:16 AM
The frame is in!!!!!   and we're gonna start on it this weekend I'll post some pics.   ;)

Good deal. I'll try to get up there sometime soon and check it out if I can. I need to bring you that core anyway. (and maybe an 18 pack of some Christmas cheer!)  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 28, 2009, 10:21:48 PM
Okay the shop has been through A LOT this year and I thought I would treat myself to a little Quality Time in the shop tonight, ALL TO YOUR BUILD!!!!!!!   I'm not sure if all of you are ready for this, but this rig has got to be done for Easter Jeep Safari 2010.  We have had A LOT of donations to this project (thank god to all of you and my WONDERFUL VENDORS) so hold onto your seats and keep your eyes on this forum because WE JUST STARTED THE BUILD I'VE BEEN ASKING ALL OF YOU FOR!!!!







I had a little help from a great friend and old employee, Jeff Reynolds.  You may know him as:  "the digger" and "pinky"

Here is the frame that came in last tuesday!!!

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub003-1.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub001-1.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub004-1.jpg)

We then sat the AQUALU TUB on it to check for body mount placement and front clip location.

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub009-1.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub007-1.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub008-1.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub010-1.jpg)

Then the cutting began...  Woo Hoo!!!!!

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub011-1.jpg)

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We ended up with this at about 10:30 PM.   ;D

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And this...

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I can't thank ALL OF YOU enough for your patience and patronage...  This is going to be a REALLY FUN BUILD!!!!   Please stop by and check it out through all it's stages.

-Max



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on December 29, 2009, 05:19:17 AM
This will be fun to watch as you create another MOAB Monster Rig!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on December 29, 2009, 07:18:05 AM
Very cool. Good to see the progress begin.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 29, 2009, 02:49:49 PM
And so it begins. ALUMABEAST !! :o  ;D

 You better take Pockets out for White Castles before you get goin on this build. She deserves a first class dinner to start the new year off with.  :o :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on December 29, 2009, 04:02:57 PM
You better take Pockets out for White Castles before you get goin on this build. She deserves a first class dinner to start the new year off with.  :o :P

Touche ole chap!   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 29, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
You better take Pockets out for White Castles before you get goin on this build. She deserves a first class dinner to start the new year off with.  :o :P

Touche ole chap!   ;D

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!   :D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 29, 2009, 11:01:25 PM
well while I had a few guys around here tonight I found a place to store the AQUALU TUB while working on the frame.....  ;D

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Then proceeded to plasma cut all of the body mount brackets.

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Then ended up with another one of these.    ;D

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I also sanded the frame and wire wheeled all the undercoating off.  (did I mention I hate undercoating?) ::)

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goodnight..  :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 30, 2009, 10:15:59 AM
JUST A LITTLE REMINDER OF THE COMPANY'S INVOLVED WITH THIS BUILD AND THE GREAT PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH!!!!!!!  I copied these pics from earlier posts.  ;)

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(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prplogo.jpg) (http://www.prpseats.com)

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Thanks to Tom at Hi-Lift for his support and willingness to help Moab Offroad and this build
(http://www.hi-lift.com/media/images/logo.gif) (http://www.hi-lift.com/)

Premier Power Welder has been around for about 29 years with a proven track record.  Unlike some of the competition Premier Power Welder is  one of the few units that can charge a battery with out the addition of any other kits.  It is a straight forward 6 wire hook-up. This kit comes ready to weld and with the addition of a few components you can MIG weld or TIG Weld. This unit is 100% duty cycle, and because of the power outlet you can prep the welding area and everyone that weld's realizes that a large percentage of a good weld is good prep.  Plus you can run pretty much anything else that plugs in at your house.  Did I Mention battery charging capabilities??? Like it can take a battery from 6 volts to 36 volts in 3.5 min... is that anything to you?

Thanks again to Jan & Pat  at Premier Power Welder.

(http://www.premierpowerwelder.com/images/top_bar_new_05.gif) (http://www.premierpowerwelder.com)

On friday my Warn rep Brian Sleicher stopped with John McCalla the CEO/PRESIDENT of Warn Industries.  To my suprise Warn donated the POWERPLANT WINCH  (since it was what everyone suggested) and gave a HUGE discount on a Warn M8000 winch  for the rear of the rig!!!!  

Warn not only sells winches but, industial winches, locking hubs, bumpers, air compressors, recovery straps, snatch blocks, and ATV winches.  Warn's premier products and superior customer service are just a couple reasons why all of MOAB OFFROAD'S vehicles showcase their product.

Me, Jeremy, Brian Sleicher, and John McCalla

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Again Thanks to CURRIE ENTERPRISE for their continued support.
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Thanks again to Premier Power Welder  We recieved some goodies   ;D ;D ;D
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Check out what Jon and Thor from Viking Offroad  sent.
Syn. winchlines for both winches.
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This is their new Splicing Kit that comes with instructions!!!
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This is their aluminum fair lead.
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Check out this new Spotter Rope!!!
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Thanks again to Viking Offroad these products were DONATED to support YOUR BUILD!!!!

These are custom hand made CURRIE wheel center caps for my walker evans beadlocks.  John Currie made these for some of their custom personal builds and wanted our build to have some.  WOW these arn't even for sell to the public...  I can't thank CURRIE enough for all that they have donated!!!!

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MORE GOODIES........... Howell Engine Developments has sponsered the project by donating a LS-1 engine harness, mass air flow sensor, fuel pump, and ECU to get this thing running right.  Howell has been around since the mid 80's and has a great reputation for customer service and High-end fuel injection components.  Those are just some of the reasons that Moab Offroad has been selling/installing their products over the last 10 yrs.  I got the chance recently to meet up with Matt Howell and his father at the street rod nationals and when they heard that I was letting all of my customers build this rig they wanted to be a part of the project.  I've been running a TBI Howell kit on my red CJ for the last 5 yrs. and have had no problems with it or any of the other fuel injection conversions that we have done since using their products. I can't personally thank Matt Howell and Troy enough for donating to the build these donations will make the build come to life ALOT quicker

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www.howellefi.com

Some tool bags from PRP

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And the seats and harnesses we've been waiting for all DONATED by PRP

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I went with cordura for the fabric instead of tweed.  I highly suggest that you stop by and sit in these seats and check out the attention to detail that PRP instills in their products.

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Here's the water pocket.

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this is where BIG85JEEPS gumbay smash goes hahaha.

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the removable seat cushion for easy cleaning.

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the side pocket for extra storage like wallet, cell phone, hair brush.... I don't know???

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Here is PRP's new harnesses.  2" shoulder straps with padding, and 3" lap.

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And to top it all off some seat covers just to keep it all looking and performing great for years to come.  Please come sit in these and try them out!!  They have alot of styles and fabrics to choose from.

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Thanks again to Mitch, Aaron, and Kelly at PRP for sponsoring OUR build!!!!

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Now that we got that out of the way.... A box from  (http://drivetrain-4you.com/Drivetrain-Brand/images/currie.gif) showed up today and to my suprise this was a FREEBIE!!!! John Currie and my sales person Brian have really helped out alot and when I called to thank them Brian said there's more coming and their excited about this build!!!  This wacky idea is starting a little bit of a buzz in the offroad industry.  These are ALL of the Johnny Joints for the suspension, Trusses for the axles for upper link mounts, and lower control arm tabs for the axles.  They also sent weld in tube adapters (in case we use steele for links) and jam nuts!!!  You can't ask for much more than that, CURRIE really has helped out alot!!!!  I wonder what else is comming??

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 30, 2009, 11:07:08 AM
Here's some more pics upclose.

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on the left is for the upper links and the right for lowers.

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WOW!!! Here's some anti-rock swaybars with alum. arms ft. and rear both DONATED by John Currie himself!!!!  I should call this the currie build. lol. thanks again to John Currie for all the support!
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Got da bling baby!!!!! aluma beast is gettin jiggy!!!


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here are the end links.


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and these are the weld-on axle brackets.

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look what else (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prplogo.jpg) has sent in for this build.

First up is a cool "Cooler Cover"
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Next is a very Cool "Impact Bag" which is designed to hold an Electric Impact, Wheel Socket, and an Extra Battery inside of a Foam encased structure to keep your tool ware protected and at the same time accessible.

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Thanks again to (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/prplogo.jpg)

here's some of the ZO6 corvette stuff I bought.  Cam, Valve springs and retainers, Pushrods, and Intake.

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As you can see in this pic the LS-6 intake on the left has a flat bottom that flows more volume for more HP compared to the LS-1 intake on the right, 

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LS-6 Intake

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LS-1 Intake

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Currie has a new 9" fab housing that their donating to the build IT'S NEW AND WE'RE GETTING THE FIRST SET!!!! How exciting!!! here's some secret photo's

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this is a strong/lightweight housing with less welded seams than some of the competition's 9" housings.  The rear is going to be 35 spline full float ARB and 5.13, 1350 yoak, Wilwood disc brakes, alum. center section.  The ft. is True Hi-9 ARB and 5.13, Alum. knuckles, Wilwood brakes, 35 spline inner and outer shafts.

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Donnated (5) 40 X 14.50 - 17 BFG Mud Terrain T/A KM2. These are the newest version of the mud terrains with a TriGuard 3-ply polyester carcass, 2 steel belts, an aggressive open self-cleaning high void lug design and styling, with a rugged sidewall and shoulder.  These look real similar to the popular BFG Krawler that I ran for the last 4 yrs.  I'm real excited to try this tire out!  BFG is also comming out with some new tire sizes for the Krawler 2009 including 38X14.50R17, 40X14.50R17, and a 42X14.5R20 in a Blue label (not sticky) and the popular 39.5X13.5R17 in a Blue label.

After talking to Tim and since I've already had the Krawlers (blue label) I wanted to try something new and different.  He HIGHLY suggested the KM2 and said there getting alot better traction in some cases than the Krawler and since this is gonna be a "hardcore daily driver" these would perform on the street a little better with this new tread pattern.  So onto the Pics!!!!!  CORYL suggested these tires and alot of you all agreed.... So here they are. ;D ;D

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Hey buddy, finally got the Currie "F9" housings in. Your units for the build are currently in production. Thought you might like to see the pictures of a sample finished product - just got the pics in today. I don't have any frontend shots yet, as I think yours will be the first front one produced. The last picture in this series shows our prefab brace series. They fit right or left, and you can obviously use equal length ones, or a short and a long, depending on your housing center offset.
Here's a PR blurb on all the details: "Currie F9 fabricated housing center features a 3/16" thick Hi-Form 50 steel body, a 3/8" thick Hi-Form 50 steel 3rd. member mounting face, and is machined to fit 3" tubes. Unique to this design, the first bend in the housing is centered with the center line of the axle tube. This allows the bend to be the point of lowest ground clearance, and the flats on the housing to provide maximum ground clearance at up to 20 degrees of pinion angle. Another unique feature are the welded in bulkheads inside the housing that tie the face, the body, and the inner ends of the tubes all together. 3" tubes easily slide in from the outside and require minor griding to flatten one side of the tube to key it into the inner bulkhead."
Thank you for your patience, and for allowing us to get these new units into your build vehicle! I can't wait to see them installed - but probably not as much as YOU can't wait to see them on your doorstep huh? haha  Couple weeks buddy, couple weeks.....

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Hey buddy, here's a shot of the rear 3rd. member that's coming with the axle. Aluminum case, billet big bearing pinion support (red anodized to match the drive flange caps of course! haha), 5.14 gears, 35 spline ARB.
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/4028A2.jpg)

I think a set of the Currie V-bumpers would look great on there too! Shipped a set out yesterday. Narrow front style, wide front style for use on the rear (with some minor trimming), and a fairlead mount. Sound good to you?
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Alright let me get everyone updated.  John Currie and Brian at (http://drivetrain-4you.com/Drivetrain-Brand/images/currie.gif) Sent us some bumpers for the rig a narrow V rock for the ft. and a 54" wide V rock ft. bumper that we're gonna modify for the rear.  Pretty sweet, any TJ customers that wanna stop by and see these bumpers feel free.


 Or check out my TJ it has the same ft. bumper and optional grill hoop.

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AND HERE ARE THE NEW BUMPERS THAT SHOWED UP YESTERDAY!!!!

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BIG THANKS TO JOHN AND BRIAN AT CURRIE FOR ALL THEIR SUPPORT!!! 


We're gonna go ahead and upgrade you to a polished gear case too - didn't figure you would mind!  ;D(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/socalhotrodder/4028A-Polished-2.jpg)

PROGRESS!!! We have progress buddy.....rear housing is almost done. Final welding today, cleaning tomorrow. Whatcha think???

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More progress on our end buddy.....This is YOUR front housing! Prior to bracing of course....Will be braced by the end of the day today.
Soooo....what do the people think??? 8) Being that this is the "people's build" (not to be confused with the "people's elbow" of course: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=people's%20elbow (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=people's%20elbow))
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Okay here's the bling!!!!!!

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 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

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 :o :o :oThanks again to CURRIE for all that they have donated!!! :o :o :o



Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 30, 2009, 11:20:45 AM

Now onto some eye candy.....


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/KMC.jpg)


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/kmcbeadlock.jpg)



If that wasn't enough I talked to Bill Nissley (the graphics guy) and he adjusted the drawing to include these wheels!!!!!!

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/scramblerproof4.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/aev_corporate_logo.jpg)


Well we have another GREAT vendor on board......   A.E.V.   (American Expedition Vehicles)   I'm sure that everyone on our forum knows who they are and what they do.... RIGHT?  well if NOT here's there website  http://www.aev-conversions.com/ (http://www.aev-conversions.com/)  Just to give you an idea they do everything from the high end Nth degree suspension  http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/nthdegree_tj/, (http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/nthdegree_tj/,) found on my TJ to their Brute conversion  http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/highline/, (http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/highline/,) HEMI engine conversions  http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/jk_hemi/, (http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/jk_hemi/,) High line fender kits  http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/highline/, (http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/highline/,) bumpers http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/jk_bumper/, (http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/jk_bumper/,) Snorkle http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/jk_snorkel/, (http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/jk_snorkel/,) ProCal http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/procal_module/, (http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/procal_module/,) Wheels   http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/wheels/, (http://www.aev-conversions.com/products/wheels/,)   just to name a few of their products and options. ;) ;D ;)  

And here's what their sending.........

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/Img4139_d.jpg)

 :o :o :o Their Heat Reduction Hood   :o :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/Img4143_d.jpg)

If you all have been following the Tomb Raider Build in the TJ section http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=231.msg3344#msg3344 (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=231.msg3344#msg3344) then you have already seen it.  IF NOT THEN STOP BY AND CHECK OUT THE ATTN. TO DETAIL THIS PRODUCT HAS!!!!!

Thanks again to Chris Wood and the rest of the team at A.E.V. for helping me understand the difference between the CJ/TJ cowl and making this build become a reality through wonderful Vendors that we need to support!!!!!!

Well we got a new sponsor on some much needed axle parts!!!!! Kevin at RANDY'S RING AND PINION donated 2 YUKON GEAR   1350 FORGED YOAKS AND SUPER JOINTS FOR THE FRONT AXLE SHAFTS!!!!!  :o :o :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/yukon001.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/yukon002.jpg)

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/yukon003.jpg)

THEY DID DONATE THIS TOO....  BUT I THOUGHT YOU ALL WOULD DIG THE PARTS BETTER, SO I SENT IT BACK  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)




(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/April_800.jpg)

THANKS AGAIN TO RANDY AND KEVIN FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THROUGH THE YEARS!!  

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/alumtub.jpg)

Notice the TJ cowl...  Just like you asked for.  ;)
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/4.jpg)

How about the boat side rockers?????  And the high rear inner fenders?
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/3.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/1.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/2.jpg)

We're getting alot closer.

A BIG thanks goes out to Todd and the gang at Aqualu Industries this is the biggest part of the build and it couldn't happen without their support!!!


Does this help Todd at AQUALU just sent me this...  :o :o

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/GetAttachment-1.jpg)


FROM THIS POST ON IS YOU FINAL GUESS!!!!!! TO WIN A FREE OIL CHANGE AND SOME COUSIN MOONBEAM  :P


Guess what just showed up...

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub001.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub002.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub005.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub006.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub007.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub008.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub010.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub011.jpg)

Check out how they scribe on the fire wall where to cut for the steering column and brake master cylinder.   8)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub013.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub014.jpg)


I guess I should tell you all about another GREAT sponsor to the build.  I've been trying to piece the rest of the front axle together.  If you've been following along you noticed that the housing is a CURRIE FAB9 with CURRIE Alum. 1 ton knuckles and Wilwood 4 piston calipers with vented disc brakes.  The center section is a TRUE-HI 9 with an ARB air locker and 5.13 gears.  The ft. axle U-joints were YUKON SUPERJOINTS donated by Randy's Ring & Pinion as were the YUKON 1350 Forged yoaks.

However nothing has been said about the axle shafts.  Let me introduce...


(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n160/Kalico13/superioraxle-logo.gif)
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n160/Kalico13/topmain-axles.jpg)

I talked to Mac McMillan about the project and he was more than happy to be a part of it and donated some 35 spline inner and outer ft. axle shafts.  Moab Offroad has been a dealer of Superior Axle and Gear for years now and its great to have them in our build.  Thanks Mac.  ;D



So I've been playing around with some diff. colors....  what do you all think about this??????????

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/greenalumabeast.jpg)

Kind of an O.D. green, with an orange pinstripe around the flames to match the Moab logo, powder coat the wheels black and polish the beadlock rings.

and maybe these guages?  :o :o

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/guages.jpg)

we could call it the "BOMBER"????    :-\ :-\  and do some fun logo's???

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/moabbomb.jpg)

lol.  let me know if I've fallen off the deep end???   ;) ;)




Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 30, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
Sooooo,,,,,what's your point ??  :o  :P  ;D  

 Got it done yet ??  :-*

 Some awesome donations by some awesome sponsors Max. I can't wait to see the progression pictures.

 I can see a night of Moonbeam & BBQ commin up pretty soon. JUICY BUTTS needs to donate their part too.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on December 30, 2009, 02:07:19 PM
Christ! I forgot how sick this thing is gonna be. Hats off to all the awesome vendors who are supporting this build!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on December 30, 2009, 05:22:23 PM
Max says he's building this next.....   ;D  YAY! I'll take over the flight attendant job!  ;D  ;) ;D

Dunkel Industries (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isyaJ_tfxhA#normal)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 30, 2009, 05:53:17 PM
I've decided this is the NEW tow rig I'm saving pennies for..   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on December 30, 2009, 08:02:53 PM
That is sweet!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on December 31, 2009, 12:07:30 PM
That is the sickest truck I have ever seen. I think I just spooged a little.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 31, 2009, 04:00:55 PM
I think I just spooged a little.

  :o  :o TMI  :o  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 03, 2010, 08:14:08 PM
With Lucas on the Tomb Raider full-time and me taking advantage of our slow season.  Here are a couple of teaser pics.....   ;)

I was lucky to have Lucas, Tom, Doug, Tripp, Sandman, Benny "D", and Scott hanging around to help me lift the tub on and off a couple times today and get the body mounts under the rockers mounted..

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub034.jpg)

Did I mention I also cut the back of the frame off????

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub035.jpg)

So we set the tub on, got it true to the frame, modified the TJ body mounts, tacked the mounts, pulled the tub back off, welded the mounts, put the tub back on, bolted the mounts on!!!!   WHEW!!!!!!  THANKS FOR LIFTING THE TUB GUYS!   ;D

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub039.jpg)

Then after they left I changed the input on the atlas from a Turbo 400 to a 700R4 and mocked up the ft. axle.  (yes I'm running a auto  :P)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub037.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub036.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub038.jpg)

Goodnight.   8)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: seejaystj on January 03, 2010, 09:48:58 PM
OH NO!!!! NOT AN AUTOMATIC!!!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on January 03, 2010, 10:57:32 PM
OH NO!!!! NOT AN AUTOMATIC!!!!!
I agree,,,BUTTT nobody has donated a NV4500 yet ???  ::)  :'(


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on January 04, 2010, 07:41:34 AM
Max you are going to love the auto - - it leaves one hand free for those 12 oz. curls out on the trail!!!

Lift da tub up - jigga --lift da tub up!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on January 04, 2010, 07:50:46 AM
Max you are going to love the auto - - it leaves one hand free for those 12 oz. curls out on the trail!!!

Bingo! I love that mine is auto.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 04, 2010, 09:10:42 AM

Lift da tub up - jigga --lift da tub up!



that is funny!!!!!   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 10, 2010, 10:22:30 PM
Max you are going to love the auto - - it leaves one hand free for those 12 oz. curls out on the trail!!!


Bingo! I love that mine is auto.


I hope I do.  I've had this 700R4 laying around for 2yrs with a novak D300 adapter on it.  The ATLAS was set up for a TH400 when I was going to do a 454....  But you all threw that out the window for a LS-1.  (can't say I blame you.)  ;D  I'll use the big block in something else with rockwells lol.  :P  That is why in the previous pics I had to change the input shaft in the ATLAS for a D300.  Well here are some updated pics.  We were a little slow last week so while Lucas was on the Tomb Raider and Doug was on everything else, I had Will bolt the drivetrain together and finish securing the tub to the frame.  

if you haven't met Will he is who taught me how to work on cars.  He took me under his wing at the age of 17 and I've been a pain in his butt ever since.  lol.

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub043.jpg)


(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub044.jpg)

We took the intake off the LS-1

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub041.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub046.jpg)


(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub042.jpg)

Here's the True-Hi 9 for the ft. axle, with 5.14's and a ARB AIR LOCKER.

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub048.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub047.jpg)

and in the CURRIE housing!!!!

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub049.jpg)


I had some help today from Smokey Jeep,  Lucas, Got Cruiser, Jeff, DEEEEwayne, Doug and Benny "D".  Thanks for all the help and thanks for dinner Deeeewayne!!!


Goodnight.   ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: seejaystj on January 11, 2010, 08:01:05 AM
Where's the uber polish on the front housing?  JEEZ!    ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on January 11, 2010, 09:18:49 AM
Ahh you're welcome Max. I think I spent more time stayin out of your way then helping though.  :P
 
 Did Jeff get the frt axle swap done ? 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 11, 2010, 10:23:51 AM
yep.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: rsiebert7 on January 13, 2010, 02:35:48 PM
Lookin good.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 13, 2010, 03:00:43 PM
Lookin good.

Where have you been????  Wanna do some wheelin this year?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: rsiebert7 on January 14, 2010, 01:31:09 PM
Getting by.... Thats about it. Id love to do some wheeling, but that isnt going to happen.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jstop on January 25, 2010, 08:00:31 AM
Any updates on this Max... I haven't had time to stop by the shop.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 25, 2010, 08:30:19 AM
Been playing with the scrambler again....  Sorry I didn't post pics last week we've been slammed at the shop.

thanks, to Q-sheezey, Doug da thug, and Deeewayne for helping on mounting the hood.

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub052.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub052.jpg)

and the windshield frame

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub050.jpg)

We had to modify the ft. of the hinge to work with the radius of the TJ cowl.

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub055.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub051.jpg)

then smokey jeep stopped by and helped us true up the drivetrain and mount it.  ;)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub056.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub053.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub059.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub058.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub057.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub061.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub063.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub065.jpg)

CHEERS!!!!
   8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepTatt on January 25, 2010, 09:11:29 AM
Great job guys!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: seejaystj on January 25, 2010, 10:13:43 AM
You mean Smokey actually had to touch an automatic transmission?  Did he throw up??  Break out into hives???  Wow!   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on January 25, 2010, 10:23:56 AM
Thanks for the pictures!  Looking good so far. 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on January 25, 2010, 10:41:39 AM
You mean Smokey actually had to touch an automatic transmission?  Did he throw up??  Break out into hives???  Wow!   ;D ;D ;D

 Nope,,,,,I had the hoist and the measuring tools.  :P

 I ain't touchin no stinkin wimp box slush tranny.  :o  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 25, 2010, 11:21:21 AM
LMAO!!!!   lol. :-*


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jstop on January 25, 2010, 08:39:40 PM
looking pretty awesome!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: BIG85JEEP on January 25, 2010, 09:08:28 PM
This is awesome!!  Not only do the customers get to pick out what goes on the rig and how it's built but they are allowed to stop by and actually lend a hand in construction. 

Great idea Max!!  Very cool   8) 8)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: mike97xj on January 31, 2010, 02:38:39 PM
Hey, Max. I'm the guy that came into your shop the other day with the curly hair. I was with Alex, don't know if you remember me. Saw this while I was there, looks great so far. Should have went with a manual instead of the slushbox, though ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 31, 2010, 02:44:31 PM
Hey, Max. I'm the guy that came into your shop the other day with the curly hair. I was with Alex, don't know if you remember me. Saw this while I was there, looks great so far. Should have went with a manual instead of the slushbox, though ;D

yeah I wanted to do a NV4500 but it's just not in the budget right now...   :(


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: mike97xj on January 31, 2010, 02:53:43 PM
Hey, Max. I'm the guy that came into your shop the other day with the curly hair. I was with Alex, don't know if you remember me. Saw this while I was there, looks great so far. Should have went with a manual instead of the slushbox, though ;D

yeah I wanted to do a NV4500 but it's just not in the budget right now...   :(

I certainly understand things not being in the budget...but regardless, it's a nice looking project. Can't wait to see the finished project.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on January 31, 2010, 03:53:17 PM
Welcome to the site Mike !! Hey buddy I LOVE your stick shift Cherokee.  ;D  ;D

 Congrats on 500 Max, the more the merrier.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: mike97xj on January 31, 2010, 03:59:51 PM
Welcome to the site Mike !! Hey buddy I LOVE your stick shift Cherokee.  ;D  ;D

 Congrats on 500 Max, the more the merrier.  ;D

Thanks. Yeah, I like it too. Took a while to find, but worth it in the end.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 21, 2010, 10:11:20 PM
I haven't touched the scrambler in a couple of weeks due to finishing the Tomb Raider http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=231.msg7619#new (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=231.msg7619#new) for EJS and getting ready for the trip.  I will be getting back on this rig after EJS.  I wish it was done and going to Utah with us but that just didn't pan out.  :'(


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jeeperscreepers96 on March 25, 2010, 07:21:52 PM
Go with some 54" tires man lol


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 14, 2010, 06:46:08 AM
You all ready to get this thing going?!? Thank you so much for sticking with me! This project has been 2 yrs. in the making and the last year had some hard growing pains that went on with the shop!  We had to go through some rough management changes and have grown so much more than years past (and during a bad economy) thanks to ALL of my loyal customers, vendors, friends and family.
  I'm finally getting my batteries recharged after finishing the Tomb Raider build http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=231.0 (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=231.0) and EJS 2 weeks ago.  I'm gonna be starting back on this beast this weekend so hang on for one wild build.  I've been doing A LOT of research in some other automotive genres. I was able to go to KOH in 09 http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=484.0 (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=484.0) and a few EJSs now, the last being this year http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1034.0 (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1034.0) . I've been all over the country getting to wheel the different areas http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=984.0 (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=984.0) (sign up to view our trail schedule link) and seeing everything in person has allowed me to learn an incredible amount of ideas. Now it's time to bring it all together in this build.  Like I said in the first post of this thread, this is going to be "the ultimate rig".  Now that you all have decided on what parts we're using, it's time for this rig to get a lil Max love. 


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/greenalumabeast.jpg) 

  The rendition picture is pretty spot on except for the cage and spare tire mount.  The cage will have some rolled tubing in it and the spare will sit flat on the floor.  I'm thinking about using a 32 gal. fuel tank under the floor behind the rear axle.  This will be extremely useful on long drives, expedition wheeling and feeding the LS-1.    I'm going to do some suspension design stuff that you would see in more of the desert race industry and some expedition stuff that you would see on bigger, heavier self-sufficient rigs.   So if you can imagine a daily driveable Ultra 4 class rig that can be outfitted for expedition style wheeling then that's what we're about to build. We'll be posting lots of videos and pics so check back often! Now.... Hang onto your teeth grandma cause this is gonna be a wild ride!!!!!!   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on April 14, 2010, 06:56:17 AM
Looking forward to watch the progress.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on April 14, 2010, 08:26:38 AM
Looking forward to watch the progress.

Me too MAX!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on April 14, 2010, 09:09:05 AM
I really want to say:

(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sign/sign0176.gif)


BUT I'll say: (lol  :-* )

(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sign/sign0060.gif)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on April 14, 2010, 10:54:05 AM
AWESOMENESS !!!  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: g.schucks on April 16, 2010, 06:18:55 AM
You all ready to get this thing going?!? Thank you so much for sticking with me! This project has been 2 yrs. in the making and the last year had some hard growing pains that went on with the shop!  We had to go through some rough management changes and have grown so much more than years past (and during a bad economy) thanks to ALL of my loyal customers, vendors, friends and family.
  I'm finally getting my batteries recharged after finishing the Tomb Raider build [url]http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=231.0[/url] ([url]http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=231.0[/url]) and EJS 2 weeks ago.  I'm gonna be starting back on this beast this weekend so hang on for one wild build.  I've been doing A LOT of research in some other automotive genres. I was able to go to KOH in 09 [url]http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=484.0[/url] ([url]http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=484.0[/url]) and a few EJSs now, the last being this year [url]http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1034.0[/url] ([url]http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1034.0[/url]) . I've been all over the country getting to wheel the different areas [url]http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=984.0[/url] ([url]http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=984.0[/url]) (sign up to view our trail schedule link) and seeing everything in person has allowed me to learn an incredible amount of ideas. Now it's time to bring it all together in this build.  Like I said in the first post of this thread, this is going to be "the ultimate rig".  Now that you all have decided on what parts we're using, it's time for this rig to get a lil Max love. 


([url]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/moab-offroad/Asking%20All%20of%20You/greenalumabeast.jpg[/url]) 

  The rendition picture is pretty spot on except for the cage and spare tire mount.  The cage will have some rolled tubing in it and the spare will sit flat on the floor.  I'm thinking about using a 32 gal. fuel tank under the floor behind the rear axle.  This will be extremely useful on long drives, expedition wheeling and feeding the LS-1.    I'm going to do some suspension design stuff that you would see in more of the desert race industry and some expedition stuff that you would see on bigger, heavier self-sufficient rigs.   So if you can imagine a daily driveable Ultra 4 class rig that can be outfitted for expedition style wheeling then that's what we're about to build. We'll be posting lots of videos and pics so check back often! Now.... Hang onto your teeth grandma cause this is gonna be a wild ride!!!!!!   ;D



I think I just got goose bumps reading this...

g.schucks


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 04, 2010, 05:42:22 AM
Okay sorry to get everyone excited and then not post everything for 2 weeks.  lol.  2 weeks ago I trail guided for the Fat Boys Jeepers club at their "Rompin at the Ranch" trailride http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1080.0. (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1080.0.)  Then last weekend I trail guided for Jeep Jamboree USA at LBL http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1085.0. (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1085.0.)  However here is a couple videos from a couple weeks ago.

This was Sunday April the 18th.

Cleanin out the Scrambler Tub (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGr20KZjU7w#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

What happened to working (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGYTN4LQT5w#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/7f0fc6be.jpg)

We have a new sponsor to the build.  BESTOP Brad Bricker (my Bestop sales rep.) stopped by to check out the build a couple of months ago and was really impressed with the Tomb Raider and this project.  So impressed that he got Bestop to DONATE a free CJ-8 Super Top!!!  I can't thank Brad and Bestop enough!!!  This build wouldn't even be possible without the support of these GREAT vendors.  


And this was from last night.  I had some help from High Pockets and Pinky installing the soft top.  I wanted to get this on first to measure for dimensions for the roll cage.  Smokey jeep has a CJ-8 hard top that I'm going to test fit for clearance as well.  Then once the cage is built we should have a structure to attach the rear coilovers to.  Now onto some more videos.

Workin on the Scrambler 5.3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysH2zetWDz8#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

Scrambler 5.3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ile3Lgkz0wU#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

Top is on the Scrambler! 5.3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzs0ZIYMC8k#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 04, 2010, 06:43:09 AM
Nice top. I really liked that. Bestop makes some 100% quality stuff. 

 Max I now have serious doubts you are selling all that Mustard Love. I think you are secretly cooking on weekends and using it yourself.  :o  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: seejaystj on May 04, 2010, 07:37:18 AM
Looking good!  And I would stop working for some Mustard Love, too.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on May 04, 2010, 08:25:50 AM
Nice! Starting to look like a Jeep!  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 09, 2010, 09:21:03 PM
Happy Mothers Day!!!!!!

Here's a little update.

5-9-2010 Scrambler build (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btcrZjNULZw#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

Cutting the wheel opening (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp6myeoZWaM#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

Lucas and John (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdPufSLa1vk#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

Untitled (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v0YqwNTG80#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

and here's a few pics.

This is the pass. side wheel opening.
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub077.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub078.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub073.jpg)

Here's Lucas and John working on the rear 4 link.

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub066.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub068.jpg)

And some roll cage work.

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub070.jpg)

 (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub079.jpg)

John lol.

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub071.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub076.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: g.schucks on May 10, 2010, 06:16:46 AM
Nice progress!!! Any thought on a goal of completion yet??? K & I Summer picnic???

You have to believe...

g.schucks


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on May 10, 2010, 07:02:26 AM
Looking good. What happened to the eye dude?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 10, 2010, 01:17:28 PM
Nice progress!!! Any thought on a goal of completion yet??? K & I Summer picnic???

You have to believe...

g.schucks


October

Looking good. What happened to the eye dude?


Fell out of our dumpster    ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on May 11, 2010, 05:49:24 AM
Looking good. What happened to the eye dude?


Fell out of our dumpster    ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ouch!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Michael 95XJ on May 11, 2010, 07:58:57 PM
hey max. Just curious. How much is this project gonna cost out the door?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 12, 2010, 07:12:38 AM
hey max. Just curious. How much is this project gonna cost out the door?

ALOT not sure just yet but we're over 60,000 so far.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Spankalicious on May 12, 2010, 12:21:54 PM
A LARGE BEER COOLER


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: garagecrew on May 12, 2010, 06:12:06 PM
Progress looks good.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 17, 2010, 04:46:47 PM
We got some more work on the cage done on Sunday.  What do you all think about the "rolled" tubing?

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub086.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub089.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/AluminumTub090.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 17, 2010, 06:10:54 PM
hey max. Just curious. How much is this project gonna cost out the door?


 Enough to buy 4 rental houses !!  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: kychaindrive on May 19, 2010, 07:00:42 PM
Looks good, Max....OCTOBER 2010? ;D ;D ;D....no wheeling for you this summer ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 19, 2010, 08:00:36 PM
Yep gonna be another busy year with no free time lol.  Oh well you can sleep when your dead right?  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on May 19, 2010, 08:15:27 PM
  Oh well you can sleep when your dead right?  ;D
;D  damn straight


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: seejaystj on May 19, 2010, 08:29:31 PM
The angle on the rear of the cage looks really cool.  I'm really looking forward to this rig!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Reaper on May 21, 2010, 12:17:24 PM
Bairy, I did the same thing to an old rail buggy of mine. I'm a paraplegic, so getting out and flipping it over or trying to hook up and wench it was out of the question. I used two actuators, one on each side, and a switch in the cab to operate both at once or independantly from each other. However, I don't think using a merc switch to operate it would be very practical. All the bouncing and jostling from serious off-roading would cause the merc switch to activate when you didn't want or need it too, thus partially activating the flip-over arms at random intervals throughout your off-road endeavor.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 22, 2010, 10:43:01 AM
Bairy, I did the same thing to an old rail buggy of mine. I'm a paraplegic, so getting out and flipping it over or trying to hook up and wench it was out of the question. I used two actuators, one on each side, and a switch in the cab to operate both at once or independantly from each other. However, I don't think using a merc switch to operate it would be very practical. All the bouncing and jostling from serious off-roading would cause the merc switch to activate when you didn't want or need it too, thus partially activating the flip-over arms at random intervals throughout your off-road endeavor.

Now that would be a wild ride.  lol.  Welcome to the site.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on June 10, 2010, 08:25:37 PM
We might just have a new sponsor...   Gen-Right!


Gen-Right at Moab Offroad Interview 1 w Scrambler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAnYy5zeIqM#lq-lq2-hq)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on June 11, 2010, 05:35:01 AM
Very cool!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on June 11, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
Thats AWESOME Max!  Look forward to seeing their Budget Built TJ.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: NickB on June 11, 2010, 09:52:31 PM
Gen-Right Has a lot of great products and Tony is awsome. It was very cool to meet him and check out his killer JK. I think the build could use a little Gen-Right lovin lol.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on June 23, 2010, 07:47:51 AM
Can never have too much protection.  :D 

 Tony eat that Mustard Love yet ?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: silverubi06 on August 18, 2010, 03:57:05 PM
I saw this thing in the shop the other day.  It's going to be one bad jeep when it's done. 


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: YJason on December 02, 2010, 03:50:46 PM
Whats going on with this build? Haven't seen a update in a while.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 02, 2010, 04:19:44 PM
Yup started mounting the steering column last night to locate the seat and finish the roll cage.   ;D  I haven't been able to work on this rig in the last 3 month due to the shops busy season. We'll be in high gear from here on this winter.   ;)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/2010-12-01210252.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/2010-12-01210727.jpg)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/2010-12-01210316.jpg)

Locating seats are always fun...  :-\  Trying to get everything ergonomically correct and comfortable for wheeling and street driving, while all the controls are in reach.  In these pics the column is only mounted to the firewall and the seat is mocked up on blocks of wood to get mounting tab dimensions. Stay tuned I'm working late tomorrow night on it and this weekend.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on December 03, 2010, 05:00:33 AM
hey max, are you going to make the seat positions adjustable or hard mount?  i sometimes wish mine were adjustable, but not enough to go in and change it...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on December 03, 2010, 06:50:52 AM
More progress! Woo hoo!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 03, 2010, 07:39:04 AM
hey max, are you going to make the seat positions adjustable or hard mount?  i sometimes wish mine were adjustable, but not enough to go in and change it...

Not sure yet probably hard mount.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 03, 2010, 08:09:24 AM
hey max, are you going to make the seat positions adjustable or hard mount?  i sometimes wish mine were adjustable, but not enough to go in and change it...

Not sure yet probably hard mount.



 Might want to re-think that ??  :P  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: High Pockets on December 03, 2010, 11:02:29 AM
hey max, are you going to make the seat positions adjustable or hard mount?  i sometimes wish mine were adjustable, but not enough to go in and change it...

Not sure yet probably hard mount.



 Might want to re-think that ??  :P  ;D

Well, luckily when Max and I drive eachother's Jeeps the only thing we have to change is the steering wheel position. I think the seat position is pretty much the same. So when he drives my Scrambler, I mean....  hehehe  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on December 03, 2010, 02:11:42 PM
WELLLL Pockets, when Max and I drive each others SCRAMBLERS, the only thing we need to change is the seat position.  :P  ;D   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: CJBilly on December 19, 2010, 05:14:08 PM
Yup started mounting the steering column last night to locate the seat and finish the roll cage.   ;D

You planning on installing a CJ tilt wheel? If so, I would sugest a XJ column. That will put the bright lights and wiper control on the column. I did this on Wally and I love it! ;)
If you are using a CJ style steering box, use the CJ lower steering shaft and the XJ upper steering shaft. No welding needed, they both slip together.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 20, 2010, 08:52:49 AM
good idea.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on December 27, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
Are you making any progress during the Holidays?  Any pictures to share Max???


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 22, 2011, 09:06:16 AM
I don't have any new pics going on yet. I've been too busy working on this: http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1155.0 (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1155.0)   ;D I'm going to get back on it after KOH.  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: YJason on March 04, 2012, 07:28:42 AM
What happened to this build?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on March 04, 2012, 10:08:23 AM
beuhler....


beuhler.....


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 05, 2012, 08:36:23 AM
You'll see real soon I'm waiting on parts as we speak!   ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 4banger on March 05, 2012, 03:46:06 PM
That's what I tell everyone too!  ;D :D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 05, 2012, 03:58:49 PM
mmmm hmmmm  :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Dakota99 on March 01, 2013, 08:19:31 PM
I stayed up all night reading everything about this build, mad props it is truly awesome that the followers were able to give input on the build. So what is going on with the alumabeast!! posts stopped last march, i would love to see what has been done since then!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 24, 2013, 05:40:27 PM
I stayed up all night reading everything about this build, mad props it is truly awesome that the followers were able to give input on the build. So what is going on with the alumabeast!! posts stopped last march, i would love to see what has been done since then!!!

 The shop is being expanded to better serve the needs. Work should resume in the near future


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 16, 2013, 02:36:24 PM
Someone said there is a "wager" to get this done by march 1st 2014.... Okay I'm game.  ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: mitaker on December 17, 2013, 12:39:06 PM
:o :o :o :o


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on December 17, 2013, 12:48:36 PM
well we all know your gonna fail since your gonna be helping me get done by march lmao!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 17, 2013, 04:50:48 PM
Yuppers..... LOL!   ;D  I'll post some pics in a little bit. Just to get you all aggravated.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 08, 2014, 08:51:06 AM
Alright If you haven't heard I sold the retro YJ  http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1006.0. (http://moab-offroad.net/smf/index.php?topic=1006.0.) It was a fun rig and slowly turning into a reason not to work on this rig lol

With that being said I've been ordering parts for the scrambler!!!! I've got a safari LJ gas tank from Gen-Right and some alum. high line fenders that I modified to fit the boat sides on the aqualu tub. I ordered a driver side drop front axle housing from Currie. (I had a pass side drop to begin with and switched to driver) We've built a rear frame section around the 30 gal. gas tank and mounted it to the tub and now we're working on connecting the 2 frames together. We also have some 2.5" Sway-a-Way coilovers and air bumps to make this a roller sooner than later. Here are a few pics to show you what we've been up to. Ohh yeah we mounted the doors and hard top too.  ;D

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/20130202_195345_zpsddd26417.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/moaboffroad/media/Scrambler%20Build/20130202_195345_zpsddd26417.jpg.html)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/20130202_195431_zps80ee6b4a.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/moaboffroad/media/Scrambler%20Build/20130202_195431_zps80ee6b4a.jpg.html)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/20131216_153337_zps802debe0.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/moaboffroad/media/Scrambler%20Build/20131216_153337_zps802debe0.jpg.html)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/20131216_153536_zpsba133b5e.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/moaboffroad/media/Scrambler%20Build/20131216_153536_zpsba133b5e.jpg.html)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/20131216_153545_zps5a0a5b23.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/moaboffroad/media/Scrambler%20Build/20131216_153545_zps5a0a5b23.jpg.html)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/20131221_174102_zpse378530d.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/moaboffroad/media/Scrambler%20Build/20131221_174102_zpse378530d.jpg.html)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/20131221_180559_zps130e0ce2.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/moaboffroad/media/Scrambler%20Build/20131221_180559_zps130e0ce2.jpg.html)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/20131229_173935_zps263a1e4a.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/moaboffroad/media/Scrambler%20Build/20131229_173935_zps263a1e4a.jpg.html)

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/moaboffroad/Scrambler%20Build/20131229_182450_zps138b120e.jpg) (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/moaboffroad/media/Scrambler%20Build/20131229_182450_zps138b120e.jpg.html)


CHEERS!!!!!!!!!    ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on January 08, 2014, 12:35:41 PM
I'm glad you are moving forward with this build (finally) and like others I have been waiting very anxiously.  Cannot wait to see all the progress   ;D  ;D  ;D  I'm sure your creativity will spark some more changes in not only my rig but others.  So get that cool shit done so we can wheel this Spring  ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: j.coulter on January 08, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
Can't wait to see this thing roll out of the shop.  ...And I thought the YJ was the most bad ass thing I had seen!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on January 08, 2014, 08:07:41 PM
yep you better be payin those boys overtime to get that thing going by march!! ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: skipfierce on January 09, 2014, 06:22:51 AM
Glad to see you getting back to this build!


Title: Re:
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 13, 2014, 06:39:16 PM
Thanks gang! I just dropped my new housing and inner C's off with my good buddy chaindrive to get a little machine work done. Hopefully I'll have a front axle going in in a couple of weeks. I've been working on connecting the 2 frames together so I can start on rear suspension this week.

Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk


Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 19, 2014, 08:44:41 PM
How about some updates? (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/gaty5a2e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/a7ahuve9.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/4usahe6a.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/myru6a2y.jpg)

A huge thanks goes out to my ole buddy chaindrive for doing the machine work on the knuckles. He is a true craftsman!

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: kychaindrive on January 19, 2014, 11:50:14 PM
Thanks buddy!  8)


Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on January 20, 2014, 07:46:38 AM
Here is a few more from the weekend. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/3ese8upe.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/4asajyqe.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/syvyzu2y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/20/egy2e2as.jpg)

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Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 03, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
I had to get some machine work done on the currie aluminum knuckles. I now have everything to assemble the front axle! Woo hoo! (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/04/7ebysazy.jpg)

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Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 09, 2014, 08:50:59 AM
Took the body off and mounted the Atlas race case this weekend. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/yma5ajab.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/naduqu6e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/u9use3a6.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/y5unu6u9.jpg)

And while installing the transmission we noticed a 1.5 " long crack around one of the bellhousing bolts. When we tightened it, it broke the rest of the way off lol.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/sa5abeve.jpg)

*** LOOKING FOR A 4L80E CASE***

:D:D:D:'(:'(:'(

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: NickB on February 09, 2014, 02:56:21 PM
Just weld it. You have a fancy tool that should work.


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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jp fan on February 10, 2014, 07:25:57 AM
Agree, Vee it out and lay down a hot puddle of liquid AL13


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 10, 2014, 07:48:34 AM
I only paid 100 bucks for the trans. I might weld it not sure yet...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jp fan on February 10, 2014, 08:01:02 AM
That may also be the jeep telling you it really wanted to be a stick shift :D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 10, 2014, 08:06:49 AM
No doubt......... LOL!  :P


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Gut-Pile on February 10, 2014, 09:02:34 AM
Mine was broke just like that.  Welded it up and ran it no problems since.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on February 10, 2014, 01:37:44 PM
That may also be the jeep telling you it really wanted to be a stick shift :D

ROFLMAO !!!


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 19, 2014, 11:05:25 PM
I'm sure it is...

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Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 22, 2014, 08:31:32 PM
Made the transmission mount and moved the engine over to the passenger side a little bit for front driveshaft clearance. Sanded on the frame some and started mocking up the front suspension. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/ury7ugy2.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/8yverega.jpg)

I also located the rest of the front axle components and assembled the wilwood brake rotors.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/y7uny3y5.jpg)

On a side note I'm in on a little wager to have this done by March 29th. With that being said this is what the shop looks like every weekend... Lol. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/23/e2avy8y2.jpg)

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: mitaker on February 22, 2014, 09:00:06 PM
Looks like you're making some progress Max! Keep it up! On another topic, I know you got the motor for the scrambler a few years ago. Are you sure it runs? What are you doing for a harness?


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 23, 2014, 06:22:18 AM
I have a Howell efi harness that I got for a manual transmission. I'm sending it back on Monday and they're swapping it for a auto harness and computer.

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Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 25, 2014, 10:08:30 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/26/by7edy2u.jpg)

Front axle and suspension is getting mocked up. :-)

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jp fan on February 25, 2014, 10:50:17 AM
Man you are getting a fire under you now, looking great. 
Just look at that ole stick shift laying there begging to get in there and bang some gears oh well maybe next build ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on February 25, 2014, 11:29:18 AM
Lookin good buddy !!  Hey can i have that wrong side Currie diff ? I want to make a planter out of it for my rock crawling garden ??  It will look great with a Hosta planted in it !!  I dont need the knuckles. LoL


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 4banger on February 26, 2014, 06:14:12 AM
Max has been hanging around Ben too much and caught tampon fever. Side affects include only being able to drive an automatic, uncontrollable whining, fear of two stroke motorcycles, and fear of jeeps with 4bangers!   :D


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 26, 2014, 06:46:32 AM
Lmao are the side effects that obvious?

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: coach on February 26, 2014, 07:31:26 AM
*snort*!  :D ;D


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on February 26, 2014, 08:37:46 AM
Max has been hanging around Ben too much and caught tampon fever. Side affects include only being able to drive an automatic, uncontrollable whining, fear of two stroke motorcycles, and fear of jeeps with 4bangers!   :D

ROFLMAO !!!   OMG James u are sooo right. Ohh that is too funny however W.O.W. payback is gonna b ugly.  U lika ta do da cha cha ??


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on February 26, 2014, 09:01:06 AM
I will have you know...  I only ever rode a 2 stroke!!!  except for my street bikes:)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on February 26, 2014, 10:10:11 AM
I will have you know...  I only ever rode a 2 stroke!!!  except for my street bikes:)

Hey i've ridden scads of 2 strokes. Everything from a Bridgestone 90 to a KX500. I love them. Instant wheelie fun. Back in the day i was a dealer service rep for Kawasaki and then Yamaha. Not to many i haven't ridden.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on February 28, 2014, 07:04:25 AM
Everyone is a comedian lol. :-)

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 4banger on March 03, 2014, 01:24:40 PM
Uhhhhh huh


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 03, 2014, 04:21:34 PM
ROFLMAO.

Tell ya what James, bring me a NV4500 and that ride will be a stick shift. Trust me........... LOL


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Post by: seejaystj on March 03, 2014, 07:29:11 PM
Hmmm. So your rig has to roll backwards first to be considered legit? Sounds counter-productive.

:)

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Title: Re: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 03, 2014, 09:14:08 PM
Uhhhhh huh
because I polished the radiator? (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/04/zenu3e5a.jpg) or was it the frame? (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/04/u8ymudun.jpg)

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 4banger on March 03, 2014, 11:41:48 PM
Max did you make those upper mounts?


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 04, 2014, 07:03:50 AM
They're Gen Right brackets.

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Title: Re: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 09, 2014, 06:51:28 AM
Uhhhhh huh


I thought you would post something like this...

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/09/vete8eqy.jpg)

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 09, 2014, 07:45:09 AM
I only own one jeep with an auto in it and it has a PINK  UofL sticker on the window. I love driving it.  ;D


Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 19, 2014, 09:34:17 PM
Okay just a few updates... (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/20/ygamu7e8.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/20/ebequget.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/20/tamudavy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/20/6udy2e6y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/20/y8era7e9.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/20/da3uryhu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/20/7yqy3yga.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/20/mydumyva.jpg)

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Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 23, 2014, 07:48:59 AM
Redrilled the mounting holes for the steering box and tacked the shock hoops on this weekend. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/23/u9e8y3at.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/23/e4a6e2et.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/23/6yramume.jpg)

I also got my savvy tail lights in!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/23/e6e8uret.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/23/sahe4avy.jpg)

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on March 23, 2014, 09:05:36 AM
Looks good!!!  How many more days?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jp fan on March 23, 2014, 07:20:23 PM
Sweet looking lights  you will need a video of ll the parts when put together


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 25, 2014, 07:23:26 AM
Thanks gang. I'm hoping just a couple more weeks. I'm waiting on the trans, wiring harness, and a few things for the dash.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: "Benny D" on March 25, 2014, 05:03:17 PM
you need to polish those lights fo sho!!!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on March 25, 2014, 05:34:19 PM
you need to polish those lights fo sho!!!

Not sure he can, that housing looks to be brushed aluminum. He already has enough to polish with that radiator. LOL


Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on April 21, 2014, 03:50:23 PM
Got boost and a spare tire mounted.

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: mitaker on April 21, 2014, 06:09:10 PM
Pics or it didn't happen!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jp fan on April 21, 2014, 06:27:54 PM
Boost???? pics for sure


Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 06, 2014, 10:43:27 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/07/uqupugas.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/07/va7yqeza.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/07/ahe9a4ub.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/07/a2u9u6yp.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/07/y5ehy7yp.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/07/ebe8a2u7.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/07/beme2u4y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/07/pyzaba5y.jpg)

Okay here's the magnuson supercharger. I also mounted the spare tire, savvy tail lights, polished the tub a little, finished the steering, and got a wider rear axle. Thanks to Benny D, Jesse, Jon, and Johnny T!

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepTatt on May 06, 2014, 05:52:42 PM
Looking good Max!


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 06, 2014, 07:43:46 PM
Thanks zip tie! Lmao!

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jp fan on May 07, 2014, 04:49:24 AM
That's what I am talking about  8) pics what spline axle are you planning for the rear now that you are all boosted 40??? what is the HP#. Can't wait to see it and catch all the drool


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: JeepTatt on May 07, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
Zip tie!!!??? I have no idea what you are talking about.

That wasn't me.....lol.


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Skinny Cook on May 07, 2014, 07:13:09 PM
That's what I am talking about  8) pics what spline axle are you planning for the rear now that you are all boosted 40??? what is the HP#. Can't wait to see it and catch all the drool

Full float, 35 spline, 350hp as of now lol


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 4banger on May 07, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Looks even better in person!  Keep up the good work!


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: NickB on May 18, 2014, 02:08:54 PM
Zip tie?...


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Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on May 22, 2014, 06:35:47 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/22/syvepa9u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/22/ty2aba2y.jpg)

We got the rear axle all welded up!

And we're working on the cage now.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/22/ysa9y6yh.jpg)

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: KatKrahel on May 22, 2014, 12:18:46 PM
Nice and shiny  :o


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jp fan on May 22, 2014, 02:08:40 PM
That is looking great thanks for posting up some updates for us out of towners. One question though did you consider putting in dash stanchions I know it helped mine getting in and out with a LARGE Foot size  ;D just wondering


Title: Re: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on July 13, 2014, 07:17:50 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/ahedamus.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/y5y6y7yr.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/6y9u9ebe.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jp fan on March 01, 2015, 11:39:18 AM
Says 120 days without a post  :-[ lets not let this thread  die. I would like to see some updates and pics and vids on this jeep .


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 24, 2015, 03:05:55 PM
I'm still working on it..... I'll upload some pics really soon.


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Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 25, 2015, 04:15:29 AM
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/25/295b2ca8248839126d6808fec922dee6.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/25/92db8d65dc99799079b909f5316ede6a.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/25/84e9b6fb880ed513e6e42dc50273c572.jpg)

Had some help from some friends sanding and polishing...


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on March 25, 2015, 04:23:28 AM
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/25/2c79a7e659a50f32a5d4fe91b865d130.jpg)

Got some Sanderson headers in...

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/25/50753601acb29e4d6221c8f042065c0d.jpg)

Started mocking up the track bar mount...

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/25/ef010324eaa4e76e72a49442eb9e6b76.jpg)

Finished the rear sway bar mount! (thanks to Carter :-) ) then started plumbing the rear brake, and fuel line.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/25/25353849d8d7f9de0b3ad3502fb561ea.jpg)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jp fan on March 25, 2015, 05:32:28 AM
Looks great, that tub is awesome. Thanks for the updates


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: yjwrangler95 on December 08, 2015, 01:41:36 PM
Hey max, what is your new wheelbase, also what top did you end up running?


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 09, 2015, 08:56:48 AM
Hey max, what is your new wheelbase, also what top did you end up running?

114" WB and a CJ-8 bestop super top   ;)


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: Bad Hair Day on December 27, 2016, 09:47:03 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161227/99a2721b14ae7478bb3f2ad24233d1e6.jpg)

Test...

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Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: jp fan on January 02, 2017, 11:20:42 AM
Great pic Max would love to see this forum come back to life


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 3j7 on January 05, 2017, 03:43:00 PM
I agree on both points


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: ctec4rxj on January 06, 2017, 07:53:32 AM
working on getting pics to update this thread


Title: Re: I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!
Post by: 4banger on January 06, 2017, 06:32:07 PM
114" wb??   Geez, almost short enough to be a cone dodger....... :D